/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1837776
>Stalin genocide of Crimean Tatars
Actually:
>But at the first victorious uprising of the French proletariat, which Louis Napoleon is striving with all his might to conjure up, the Austrian Germans and Magyars will be set free and wreak a bloody revenge on the Slav barbarians. The general war which will then break out will smash this Slav Sonderbund and wipe out all these petty hidebound nations, down to their very names.
>The next world war will result in the disappearance from the face of the earth not only of reactionary classes and dynasties, but also of entire reactionary peoples. And that, too, is a step forward.
https://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1849/01/13.htm
Chad Engels would have supported this progressive act by glorious Stalin! /s

>>1837896
>Persecution of Arab Jews started right after Nakba as retaliation tho
It definitely accelerated after the Nakba but this isn't accurate. I think the baddest pogrom in Iraq was the Farhud which was in 1941. Like… one thing pro-Israel people will say is that a majority of Israeli Jews are not actually European, they're from predominantly Muslim countries. And that's true. But the dark side of this story which they don't mention is that these people are (generalizing a bit) are the base of the right-wing vote in Israel and are militaristic and into MIGA for real. Really veering into fascism. This gives you a sense of it (one the rapper's parents are emigres from Yemen and Iran).

>>1837640
>people working in jobs that have to be done in a particular place (ex: extractive industries like mining, farming, ranching) are more right wing than people with jobs that can done anywhere (ex: services, retail, etc.).
This is also a very smart and materialist point. Extractive industries located in particular places (or land) can only be subdivided so many times until it's worthless. Point is, "we" keep possession of that stuff and foreigners, outsiders, etc. can "get out."

>>1837640
>>1838294
>workers who earn enough to have reserves and become petit bourgeois are more reactionary than proletarians
regurgitating marx but more retarded

>>1838297
most extractive workers aren't petit bourgeois. There are geospatial aspects to the relations of the means of production not just hierarchical ones. see: https://archive.ph/91Z5c

umm,,, sweaty,,, yuo ned ot of into rael ot thoery

>>1819150
Marx

>>1819150
this is theory

>>1819441
can you convert this to pdf so i can see it in the browser? i dont like epub

>>1837652
I remember a story about Brazilian Twitter being flooded with pro Bolsonaro bots around the election time. I saw it myself, it was bizarre you couldn't say anything about him without them flooding into the thread.

>>1837650
Lula doesn't have a majority in Congress but he compensates for that with political savviness, his government has already passed more bills than any other in this time frame.

His approval rating will probably oscillate around the 45–55 range but it will never fall below that.

>>1838174
bazed

>>1838200
Oh yea the post spilt might endanger things

>>1838260
Bills that people want? More importantly his supporters? I am not holding my breath.

He is already at 45% approval rating. What is the threshold for you to change your mind?

>>1838215
This was a constant I think.

>>1836307
>Most anarchists are quite generous to Marx; they just take him in a different direction than the worker's societies from which they departed. Graeber passed on just as New Materialism was coming together; he might have been sympathetic to it.

agree w this anarchists are typically very wiling to listen to Marx. The split ain't as clear as people wish to believe.

>What do you think abolition of the value form means in practice if not moral abolition, and why would that scare anyone who is committed to the end of class, money, and the state?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not coming at this from a moralist angle. I just think Bataille's understanding of existentialism is at once better than Sartre's but also displays some of the limits of Kierkegaard's thought and his dependence on introjecting the suffering of the other to attain his own enlightenment.

>>1836964
I mean to begin with, Bataille is like… the moralist par excellence lol

>>1836210
you didn't really understand that post, the I was saying Bataille is to materialism what nondual hinduism is to idealism

>>1835333
>things aren't incompatible depending on the level of ontological abstraction. It could be true that at a micro level things are atomistic but this can lead to macroscopic change.
i.e. "non reductive materialism". People ITT are getting materialism confused with reductive materialism and even non materialist philosophies which are reductionist. Materialism or even physicalism are not necessarily tied to verificationist theories of meaning or direct realist accounts of perception.

>>1836964
There is more common ground between internationalist anarchists and internationalist Marxists than there is between internationalist Marxists and those who call themselves Marxists and defend nationalism (like the IMT).

Why didn't it work…

If they win Maoists would call them revisionists and wreckers for taking power through a coup rather than through people's war

>>1836065
They were counter revolutionary because the clerics were addicted to statism and the favours they received, people seem to forget that Russia virtually skipped over a mode of production.

I would like it if there were some kind of afterlife, or righteous karma, or reincarnation, or enlightenment.
I don't think it's unusual to not want death to be the end.
The issue is conflating what we want with what is real, or deluding yourself into believing what you want is actually true.
My life is particularly miserable and shitty, plus I was raised in a strictly religious environment and that does things to your brain that make it harder to be atheistic or accept a materialistic worldview regardless of clear evidence.
I've done psychedelics that made me see and feel and experience things that can't be described and would take an essay to get close to.
Does that mean the supernatural is real? No. It's up to me to understand that it's all in my brain, or how I was raised, or just lies which would be nice if it were true. And often that's hard if you aren't raised secular.

What helps me is when I do fall into looking at something through a supernatural lense, then eventually someone says something so silly it will snap me out of it again.
For an example I was looking at a Buddhist forum, and there was a topic about what to do if bugs infest your house.
The response users gave? You can't do anything to stop them. Put a spider in your house to deal with them for you, let that spider take the karmic damage. Or repeat a mantra 100 times to each fly before you swat it.
It's that kinda schizo stuff that all these people believe but you don't hear about at face value that reminds me how it's all bs.

This isn't to say religious people can't be good people, can't be leftists, can't do good, of course they can I'm not suggesting otherwise.
It's not helpful to mock those who share our political beliefs by and large but belong to some religion.
But ultimately we can't know anything about what is after death and to suggest otherwise is just playing into fantastical wishes, and we need to build a world on the rules of material reality, not on fantastical and supernatural elements.

>>1837695
>Put a spider in your house to deal with them for you, let that spider
have a roof over their head and fresh meals.
This makes sense.

>>1837910
I'd like to read more about this? I thought zen Buddhism was a long historic tradition caused by syncretism with Shinto and Mahayana Buddhism

>>1837910
Mindfulness is pretty nice tho.

Op hasn’t explained why this shit will result in revolution and not merely a conservative government being voted in. One example of this is South Korea

>>1830725
it's amazing how many people dogpiled you using their (relatively rare) neurodivergence as an example of how most people supposedly are. Most people wanna fuck and have kids. It wouldn't keep happening otherwise. Sure porky encourages it but it's one of the few things they don't completely have control over.

>>1830253
>cope is when you bring up other things that also contribute to the point you're making
what? If you think those other things don't also matter, on top of the money, you're delusional.

>>1837842
Fuck yes, have kids no. Most of human history kids were just the inadvertent side effect of fucking which is why as soon as birth control was invented people immediately started having fewer children.

>>1830725
You fundamentally don't get it.

>>1837162
No it isn't. Zionist bourgeoisie deliberately created a Jewish working class in Israel. "Conquest of Labor" and "Conquest of Land." Try reading a fucking book.

Removal to where? There's a difference between people who just got there from Brooklyn last week an people whose families have been there for decades. They have every much as right to live there.

>>1837165
Israel has some of the worst working conditions and living standards in the "developed" world. The Israeli capitalists aren't oppressed: they oppress the Palestinians and this oppression is the source of the exploitation and oppression of Israeli workers. You're drawing a false line. Palestine won't be free unless the Zionist state is split. Shit like what you're saying just tells Jewish workers they had better support Netanyahu forever

>>1837684
>>1837684
Now tell about the oppressed Rhodesian and South African Boer working class

Even better, tell me about the poor oppressed German settlers in Eastern Europe during WW2

>>1837684
>Palestine won't be free unless the Zionist state is destroyed and every single settler forced to swin back to Poland across the mediterranean

Fify ziocuck

>>1837763
>>1837768
This sounds really r-r-radical but it's not. It's just bourgeois nationalism.

Eastern Germany, even if it's not necessary. Germany may just give them a province to be extra servile to the USA. And then force it on the east for extra butthurt, to further conflate rightoids and communists. Gawd that would be funny.

>>1835041
>addictive media
XDDDDDD

>>1834986
>I have no idea what is going on but if they are going after lolicons good.
retard moment

This guy seems doing what the Dutch guy doing before. What kind of autism is this? Schizos who obsessed with natality?

Any resemblance? Or what the le weebs soy did are rookie numbers?

>>1799130
The only legitimate communist party of Japan was the United Red Army.
If you consider supporting the JCP or outright support those revisionist liberal shits you should self-criticize immediately!

>>1837585
Based explanation thanks

>>1837677
>Two fucking hour youtube video
ENOUGH WITH THE TALKING HEADS
KILL ALL SOCIAL MEDIA TALKING HEADS
WRITE ESSAYS TO EXPLAIN YOUR POSITION OR FUCKING DIE FOR WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME WITH YOUR RASPY FUCKING VOICE AND TWO HOURS OF UNNECESSARY ADDED IMAGERY OR SHITTY ART.

>>1837715
>Stand for Socialism against Modern Revisionism was published in 1992. It is a major document of the Second Rectification Movement and a counter to all the attacks on the socialist cause churned out by the imperialists and the petty bourgeois anti-communists in the aftermath of the rapid full restoration of capitalism in the revisionist-ruled countries.
It's called an audiobook

>>1837715
Here's a pdf of the book. Read it.
https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/S07-Stand-for-Socialism-6th-Printing.pdf