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Are there other Non-Marxist who broswe here?

I'm curious if there are other people who's politics are non Marxist or who actively disagree with Marxist politics who lurk here.
If so why you are not a Marxist?
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Soviet Fetishism

Why do modern leftists fetishize the Soviet Union? From only buying Kalashnikovs to unironically wanting the return of secret police, Soviet fetishism is rampant in the modern left. Why is this?
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Tomorrow Peru goes to the polls to choose the new head of state, members of congress and for the andean parlament. The elections have been unexpected to put it mildly, being the country with the worst handling of the pandemic (Acording to the Financial Times), and in the aftermath of the political crisis of the week of 3 presidents the people of Peru have to choose between 18 candidates, and as cherry-on-top there is a stalemate between 6 candidates (originally only one "leftwing" but the outsider came, and it came hard)
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/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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Is there a bigger hack on the left? Like I get he is funny but the fucking nonstop Lacanian freudian hegelian analysis dialectic of the Marvel Movies is such obvious bullshit. The guy has never made a single serious statement once in his life. Whenever someone asks him a basic question about anything he can't just give an answer. He has to go on a 9 paragraph rant about a Lithuanian penis joke and how the dualism spirituality object of Lacan is why the global economy is in the mess it's in.
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/USApol/ United States Politics


Feel free to watch US related happenings and chat with other anons at : https://tv.leftypol.org (You can create your own channel too)

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FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFE
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Ecuadorian General Election

Tomorrow is the second round of the Ecuadorian presidential election.
<This coming Sunday, Ecuador will hold a historic election that will shape the Andean nation's future and Latin America's economic recovery and integration process.

<Two presidential candidates with quite radically different visions are in front of voters in this Sunday's elections in Ecuador, as the country is being pulled into one of two possible choices.

<Andres Arauz, a left-wing economist with a program to increase the social safety net, prevent corruption and capital flight, and Guillermo Lasso, a ring-wing banker. He would steer Ecuador towards an unregulated free-market economy and continue to siphon the country's resources into off-shore tax havens.

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Support for Socialist channels on youtube

So It's analysis anon back with more tools to analyse our strength with, I found this interesting tool which lets you see the total amount of views, subscribers and Channel views a channel has by ideology.

>YouTube is used by 71% of Americans and is a source of news for 26% of US adults. While the impact of YouTube continues to grow, options for understanding the content and ideas being shared on the platform are lacking. That is why we built Transparency.tube. In creating a first-of-its-kind effort to categorize, index, and analyze over 7,300 of the largest English language YouTube channels actively discussing political and cultural issues, we aim to provide the data necessary to better understand this space.

Here's the sites link, you can check it out for yourself.
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Discourse and Language

Does anyone else think the myopic focus on language and discourse, including pronouns, etc. and other forms of "feminist language reform" is due to the liberal lefts concentration in academia, particularly in the humanities department? These are people who spend their days reading and writing, so it's no surprise they would attribute this sort of power to intertextual discourse over material reality.

The Sapir–Whorf hypothesis (linguistic relativity) says that language determines thought, but that theory, at least the strong version of it was already refuted in the early 20th century, but still Feminists etc. use these ideas as a basis for changing society.

In any case the misguided belief in discourse and language and "reading" in liberal and leftist circles can be mostly attributed to the fact that they are waging revolution from the humanities departments rather than the streets.
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Using anime to promote socialism

A lot of people like anime, so it seems like it would be a good idea to use anime to advertise socialism. Leftypol already does this with Alunya, so I'd say that leftypol is doing good there. However, I do wonder if the left should go farther with its use of anime. You already have some leftist TV shows and movies on sites like Means TV, so why not extend this to anime? There's really two ways for the left to go about making anime: 1) putting subtle leftist themes in anime (worker exploitation, environmental degradation, poverty, sexism, racism, etc.) where socialism isn't central to the plot and 2) explicitly promoting socialism by making socialist shit central to the plot. You could also try to turn historical figures and events into anime, like China did with Karl Marx. I kinda wonder what historical socialist figures would make good waifus.

In addition (or instead of) creating anime shows, leftists could instead just stick to just post anime artwork promoting leftist ideas online. Either way, turning weebs into socialists sseems like a good idea.

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>be Japan
>literally rape and pillage and colonize the entirety of East Asia and the Pacific islands for over a decade
>lose, plan surrender as the Soviets close in on Manchuria, but burgers nuke you anyway
>get treated with kid gloves by both the burgers and the Soviets
>allowed to prosper and nearly become a super power
>nobody is tried for war crimes
>never apologize for war crimes
>loved by everybody
Why did it go down like this? Was it just because America needed a bulwark against Communism in East Asia?
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Internet Trash General
Please post your twitter screenshots and related social media and website gossip in here, rather than start an entire thread for it.
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What do you guys think of Syndicalism? I like it because I've played a lot of Kaiserreich tbh. I watched a Sankara documentary and he lumped them in with other negative elements, what was his problem?
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🇧🇷 /brg/ Brasil General 🇧🇷
Football, favelas and fascism.
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Youtube(and other) Content Thread

A dedicated general thread that includes any visual-media by content-creators that deal with philosophy, political economy, and politics. Not strictly a containment thread, feel free to start another thread about specific videos if you feel that is necessary. For ongoing content such as live streams and smaller updates, and daily news/vlogs; please use this thread.
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Donbass War General 4, Who will cuck out?

>Military build-up in the Donbass on both sides continues
>A gorrillion ceasefire violations since that started
>Still neither side started an offensive, but keep lightly shelling eachother

Is war truly on the horizon in the East? Or is this just nothingburger sabre-rattling?
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Climate Change General

We already had a thread like this before. Some great informative posts were made, but it got lost a while ago. Making a new thread, since this is an important topic.

Informative sources
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/leftybritpol/ - Battle Holyroyale edition

Alba, A4U, I dunnae kain who's who!
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Are anthropomorphic mechs a useless sci fi weapon IRL? Or are there scenarios where they are in fact useful and not littered with liabilities? Perhaps in space?
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Is Yanis based or cringe?
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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

A general thread for all China related discussion.
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'Trava u Doma' is a song about the nostalgia of a cosmonaut for Earth, basically, and under one of these videos I found a great comment
< there is a film called "Alien Ship" (although it is not at all about what one usually thinks about after reading the title).
< So, in this film was shown one thing, a certain meaning. The film shows the idea of ​​the existence of the concept "We". People. Community.
< When the most ordinary person in the USSR was somehow involved in "Cosmos".
< In those days, the Cosmos was really ours. You were born in a country where individual success is cultivated.
< You live in a society where everyone is a competitor to each other.
< When people are only elements of the economic system commodity-money-commodity. In which everything is sold and everything is bought. You will not have the Cosmos.
< I had Cosmos as a child.
< It is difficult to describe in words, this feeling.
The Soviet people had a collective feeling that they were participants in the exploration of the cosmos, not because they physically were, but because there was a combined sense of community+solidarity. This produces the feeling of Cosmos. What do you think? How will social dynamics change when society is reorganized on a communist basis?
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Anarchism General 2.0 - Anprim Edition

Thread for the discussion of Anarchism.

Old one is full (>>53004)

Foundational texts:
>Alexander Berkman, ABCs of Anarchist-Communism
>Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution
>Errico Malatesta, Anarchism and Organization

Contemporary theory:
>Tiqqun, This Is Not a Program
>Anonymous, Desert

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Let's get one thing perfectly clear. There's a certain section of anarchists who basically dominate inside any country as anarchists who literally – and I know that the term "literally' has been thrown about liberally, but I literally mean "literally"' – who have ABSOLUTELY no idea about anything.

Even when I was an anarchist I've know that like 80% of my "supposed comrades" were literal lunatics, dude. They have not the slightest idea about ANYTHING. They are the DAFTEST mother fuckers.

No, I didn't start this thread to "shit on" anarchos. I started this thread to make perfectly lucent this single fact: anarchists have NO idea about the "actually ongoing socio-economic system," moreover, they have no sense of political opportunities, change, and so on.

"Anarchism proper" ended in the first half of the 20th century.

None of my above statements are even slightly controversial, btw. And yes, I want you to feel bad, I want you to feel like a literal brainlet if you still identify as an anarchist in 2021.
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Myanmar Civil war

the demonstrators are arming themselves and the armies of the autonomous regions are rebelling against the government something serious is happening step by step. or not ?
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Webm thread?

Webm thread
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Woke-ism will never end.

Do you think that we have reached peak conservatism? As in the desire to withhold the human instinct and constrain it, not just culture "conservatism" That is about as debased if not even more debased than the shit that liberals would pretend to be invested in. No we are living in one of the most chokingly uncreative and unimaginative times since the 80's and yet I believe that wokeness will continue to be the focal point of politics for the time being, especially on the left. People need to feel self-righteous as well as having barriers in order to exclude or gate keep people from. 4chan is exceedingly conformist, twitter is exceedingly conformist, reddit is exceedingly conformist. We are basically living in the end of individuality as we know it as only liberalism and peterson-esque conservatism remains. Aesthetic, automatized christianity will continue to reign supreme and psychics and other gurus will lead the populace way as we will lend ourselves into a time of mass confusion, and low testosterone.
The groypers are a bunch of femboys posing as tradcaths
/fit/"chads" are dyels who just hate fat people
and y'know how boomers are.
And yet the left is somehow even worse. There is no dynamism, no chaos. Anarchism is unironically the most conformist group of them all. We live in a world of order, where the god of Law became a PoC transwoman but the same shit applies as we have all sorts of losers who want to stomp down on other losers necks for aeons to come. Economics don't matter, porky pretty much won.
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==Hilo general Latinoamérica--LatAm general thread==

Considerando la gran cantidad de habla que se ha generado de paises como Brasil, Venezeula, Bolivia, etc (y la ausencia de un hilo como este) he decidido hacer esto. En lo que se pobla de noticias, tópicos y otras cosas esto puede s er un AMA y tengo excusa para usar mi grado en historia puertorriqueña, caribeña y americana en buen uso. Tambien consideren esto un refugio para hablar español

Considering all the talk theres been about countries like Bolivia, Venezuela, Brazil, etc (and having no LatAm general thread in the frist place) I´ve decided to take the inciative and make one. While other topics get added and fill the thread consider this a sort of AMA where I can use my bachellors degree in puertorrican, caribbean, and american (the hemisphere) history.
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Prince Philip, dead at 99

Didn't see a thread about this yet, figured I would make one.
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*sigh* somehow the Cold War has returned
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/auspol.org/ - Australia General

Thread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.

I get that since the split the number of Australians here probably went from being counted on two hands to just one, but I figured that there should be at least a thread here that we can keep bumping.
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How could they get glowed so fucking easily? This was the one shot at a non-shit leftist subreddit and instead it just obsesses over meaningless media shite and is drowning in rightoids and glowies
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OC Thread 8.0

Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

OC Thread 4.0 >>8622
OC Thread 5.0 >>419177
OC Thread 7.0 >>956315
Unfortunately OC thread 6.0 was lost when we were raided by the chinless horde back in October

This is the place where you can find all leftypol memes n' shit
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Problem, capitalist?

Chinese regulators fine Alibaba record $2.8bn
Ecommerce group penalised for abusing market dominance as Beijing steps up scrutiny of tech sector

>Chinese regulators have fined Alibaba a record Rmb18.2bn after finding that the ecommerce group had abused its market dominance.

>The $2.8bn penalty, which was set at 4 per cent of Alibaba’s 2019 revenues, concludes an antitrust investigation into the company founded by Jack Ma. It comes as Chinese authorities have stepped up scrutiny on dealmaking and anti-competitive practices in its once lightly regulated technology sector.
>The market regulator said that since 2015 Alibaba had forced merchants to sell exclusively on its Tmall and Taobao online shopping platforms.
>Alibaba used its “market position, platform rules and data, and algorithmic methods” to put in place rewards and punishments for its “choose one of two” policy, the regulator said on Saturday.
>In November, Chinese authorities suspended the $37bn initial public offering of Ma’s Ant Group, Alibaba’s payments and lending sister company, at the last minute.
>Previously, the country’s competition regulators had focused mostly on traditional industries at home and on foreign companies. It imposed a then-record fine of $975m in 2015 on US chip-design group Qualcomm, which equalled 8 per cent of its China revenues. By law, China’s antitrust fines can be set as high as 10 per cent.
>But last November, regulators started drawing up the first antitrust measures to cover the online platforms that have become China’s most valuable companies.

>The State Administration of Market Regulation ordered Alibaba to “carry out a comprehensive rectification” drive on its platform, to strengthen its legal controls and compliance. It gave Alibaba 15 days to submit a report detailing changes to its “illegal behaviour”.

>Alibaba said it “sincerely accepted” the penalty.
>“It is an important action to safeguard fair market competition and quality development of internet platform economies,” the company said. “It reflects the regulators’ thoughtful and normative expectations.”
>Alibaba added that it would strengthen compliance, improve its systems and ensure an open and equitable operating environment for its merchants.
>Analysts said the fine alone would not significantly affect Alibaba’s operations. It had $48bn of cash on its balance sheet at the end of 2020 and earned $24bn in net profit last year.
>The more significant part of the penalty, said Li Chengdong, chief executive of Dolphin Think Tank, was the fact that Alibaba had been found guilty of serious abuses, meaning it would be more likely to yield in future regulatory disputes over tax and counterfeit goods.
>“Whereas Alibaba used to have a strong, assertive stance with regulators, now it will be on the back foot,” said Li.
>Chen Lin, assistant professor of marketing at China-Europe International Business School, noted that the antitrust case had been “settled through money without really changing its monopolistic position”. Much as in the EU and US, there was little consensus over how Chinese regulators would break up huge companies like Alibaba.
>Robin Zhu of Bernstein Research said that while the market may read the fine as the “worst is over” moment for Alibaba’s shares, the longer-term and larger issue was growing competition in ecommerce.
>Alibaba’s biggest challenge comes from fast growing rivals. Upstart Pinduoduo overtook its annual shopper count last year, with 788m people buying on its platform ahead of Alibaba’s 779m. 
>A Chinese antitrust lawyer, who asked to remain anonymous, said the fine “was meant to teach Alibaba ‘don’t think you can do whatever you want’, but [would] not materially harm the business”.

>He noted the penalty was not as large as it could have been and was limited to Alibaba’s ecommerce operations, rather than its other industry-spanning operations.

>Alibaba has in recent years bought up everything from supermarket chains to home furnishing retailers, giving it a share of about one-fifth of China’s total retail sales.
>Food delivery group Meituan has taken market share from Alibaba’s Ele.me and is pushing into ferrying all types of goods from shops to consumers — another challenge to Alibaba’s ecommerce dominance.
>While the penalty marks the end of the government’s antitrust scrutiny of Alibaba, Ma’s other interests remain under pressure. Authorities have yet to announce formally a deal for Ant’s restructuring and have suspended new enrolment at Ma’s elite business school.
>The Communist party’s People’s Daily newspaper said the punishment reflected a “normative correction for the company’s development, a clean-up and purification of the industry environment, and a strong defence of fair competition”.

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Wishing to be an ignorant normie

Do you guys, ever wish that you were back to being an ignorant normie again? Life seemed so much better before my radicalization, but now the future seems near hopeless, and I feel this incredible sense of powerlessness. And because of my knowledge I feel obligated to try save it. I very hard time connecting with normies because, of my radical politics and the fact my politics is always on my mind. Sometimes I wish I could just go shut my brain off and mindlessly consume. I guess the phrase "ignorance is bliss" is true.
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My Pillow guy won already

Anti-gun people are so weak they surrender in a pillow fight.
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What's the matter with Poland?

why are they so anti communist?
I don't get it.
It's like a clinical condition. Out of all the ex iron courtain and ex soviet union they are the most rabidly anti comminist.
What's the dialectical explanation?
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Research Project: Royal Families of Europe

So, Prince Phillip died and he was a cunt. For hundreds of years, cunts like him have had power in Europe and beyond.

These inbred fucks form(ed) an intergenerational, interlocking network of hereditary oppression.

We hear a lot about the major ones, who actually end up leading a country, or an empire, but for each of these leaders there is a whole gang of minor royals.

While all are cunts, often it is these minor royals, who, away from the limelight and the need for optics, express the true feelings of one born into such privilege.

So, I propose a research project, particularly for Euro anons but also anons from around the world. The concept is simple, pick a royal, any royal, go to their wikipedia page, have a read, google their name, see what comes up, follow a few links, write a short profile on them, their bizarre Eugenic beliefs, Nazi affiliations, Pedophilia etc. As well as this, write up a bit on their relations, which other royals they are related too.

Lets see if we can map out the degenerate Royal Families of europe and see what meme worthy dirt we might find that has gone unnoticed.
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Niggas on 4chan trying to argue the US isn’t capitalist

Why are Americans such stupid fucking animals, yo?
I know I harp on this shit constantly, but I really am sick of it
Why are they such lying, dishonest cunts?
Why are they so terminally braindead and completely brainwashed?
The only person in this world that could be stupid enough to say America isn’t a capitalist state is an american itself

How tf can it be possible for 300 million people, one of the largest countries on Earth, to be like this on average? How can one of the most technologically advanced countries on the planet and in history have such a fucking stupid population? Like I get it, “muh propaganda” but Americans seemingly not only lack a capacity to think independently, they actively seek to entrench themselves deeper and deeper into ruling class ideology
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Are we supposed to put up with modern "Unions" and the radiation their bosses emit?
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Hello everybody.
It seems a coup is being carried out in Myanmar, but i can't find the politics behind it.
Here a tweet explaining the events:

Please post sources (better if socialist leaning ofc) and thoughts about it.
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Endgame of "Social Media"

I read somewhere here that the bussiness model for social media based in ads and data will collapse in the future. I'm more interested not in the when but in the how. I am bombarded with news and opinions that seem to give the idea that these things are eternal and so are its consequences. Thoughts?
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Transhuman Leftism

What is the leftist view of transhumanism? Almost every piece of media I've seen is reactionary neo-luddite TECHNOLOGY BAD, but are they right?
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Would world communism be the end of history?

Suppose history were a fairy tale. Would communism be the "And then everyone lived happily ever after" part at the end of the story? Would poverty, conflict, and oppression all be gone? Or would there be certain serious problems that not even communism could solve?

Now, before anyone gets smart on me, let's ignore the Sun turning into a red giant and killing off all life on Earth or the eventual heat death of the universe. Those things will all happen millions of years from now.
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DUMBER with age

Does anyone else feel like their brain is melting? Im only 30 but I feel like peak intelligence was around 19/20 and I've been losing it ever since.

I'm forgetting shit I learned in college and high school, I'm even forgetting the faces/names of my old friends/classmates. I barely remember movies, songs, events like prom, whether our school won that game, etc. I can't remember or barely remember old co-workers/bosses/teachers.

Let alone Calculus or physics.

Not only is memory fading but my ability to learn new shit is slowing down too and come up with creative solutions. I legit feel like my IQ has dropped 10-15 points in the past 5 years.

Does anyone else have this problem? Is it from too much drinking, social media, lack of sleep etc? Or am i just retarded. At this rate by the time I'm 50 I'm going to be literally braindead
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/dprk/ -- DPR Korea General

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
Archive of first ~500 posts on original thread:
Subsequent archives:
Related archives:
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News 4/10/21

'Humanitarian and Security' operation leads to capture of 158 ISIS mercenaries in Hol Camp
The ‘Humanitarian and Security’ operation launched by the Internal Security Forces to dismantle ISIS cells in Hol Camp in Hesekê Canton on 28 March, lasted 10 days. After the first phase of the operation was completed, the Anti-Terrorist Forces (YAT) continued to carry out special operations.

Video shows police beating Israeli politician in Jerusalem
Ofer Cassif, a Jewish member of the mostly Arab Joint List party, was attending a protest against the expansion of a Jewish settlement in Sheikh Jarrah, a Palestinian neighbourhood of occupied East Jerusalem. “They started to beat me, they broke my glasses … they went crazy,” Cassif said on Friday in the Channel 13 footage. “They didn’t care that I’m a member of parliament,” he said.

How Israel's bragging forced Iran to target its ships and endanger world shipping
By repeatedly attacking Iranian ships at sea and celebrating the news through leaks about it, Israel is playing with fire. When the United States and Iran are struggling to find a formula to bring them back to the 2015 nuclear deal, it seems Israel’s leaders and heads of security and intelligence are trying to derail any possible reconciliation between Tehran and Washington.

Myanmar UN envoy urges no-fly zone as over 80 killed
Myanmar’s own ambassador to the United Nations has called for a no-fly zone and sanctions, as the international community puts more pressure on the military government to end a deadly crackdown and restore democracy, and as 83 people were killed, with dozens more reported dead early on Saturday.

‘Pandemic against our people’: Australians rally against deaths of indigenous people in police custody (VIDEO, PHOTOS)
Protests and marches took place in cities, including Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane on Saturday, with more rallies expected in Adelaide and Perth on Thursday. People held ‘Black Lives Matter’ signs and placards with ‘Stop Black Deaths in Custody.’

JCP Kurabayashi: Gov’t should boost pace and scale of COVID-19 testing to stop 4th wave of infections
Japanese Communist Party lawmaker Kurabayashi Akiko on April 5 at a House of Councilors Audit Committee meeting said that in order to prevent a possible 4th wave of COVID-19 from hitting Japan, the government should become serious about boosting the testing capacity and providing financial support to struggling businesses and individuals.

Student rent strikers targeted with eviction at London university, campaigners claim
The group organising the ongoing rent strike at Queen Mary University of London (QMUL) says that 20 students have been kicked out since September, leaving some homeless in the middle of the pandemic. Activists said that the university is using “minor rule breaches” such as tampering with fire alarms to target students who are withholding rent.

Prosecutor: Salvini should not be tried for migrant policy
An Italian prosecutor on Saturday told a court in Sicily that there’s no reason to order right-wing leader Matteo Salvini to stand trial for alleged kidnapping for his role in keeping rescued migrants aboard a coast guard ship for days in the summer of 2019.

Mexico: Key day for MORENA party in electoral battle
On Friday, the Superior House of the Electoral Tribunal of the Judicial Power of the Federation can vote on a project in which it recognizes violations to supervise Felix Salgado Macedonio, a controversial candidate for Guerrero's governorship, the best positioned candidate according to the polls.

Pandemic, hunger force thousands into sex work in Mexico
“It was an income in order to eat, to pay the rent we owe,” said Claudia, who now owes only one month back rent. “It is hard to come back and see so many of my fellow workers from the old days, my era, going back to do the same thing … to see all the problems out there.”

Ecuador To Choose Between Opposite Economic Visions in Election
Andres Arauz, a left-wing economist with a program to increase the social safety net, prevent corruption and capital flight, and Guillermo Lasso, a ring-wing banker. He would steer Ecuador towards an unregulated free-market economy and continue to siphon the country's resources into off-shore tax havens.

Alibaba hit with $2.8 billion fine in China antitrust case
China started keeping a closer eye on tech giants last year, with lawmakers proposing an update to the antimonopoly law to add rules specifically for them. Jack Ma's businesses, in particular, seem have become a target in his home country after he called Chinese banks "state-owned pawnshops" for giving unnecessary loans during a finance summit. His executives even had to form a task force to deal with regulators on a daily basis. https://www.engadget.com/alibaba-2-8-billion-fine-china-antitrust-case-055946875.html
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Russian Thread

Any of us still left? Come share in the sadness.
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A lesson and some advice

The last months a political lesson became clear to me, one that was so ridiculously basic it surprised me, but one that also speaks volumes about the state of the Western left, in fact the general state the Western individual finds himself in, a condition that – no surprise here – affects me as well.

Allow me to express this lesson in a single sentence: I need to stop doing shit that consistently makes me feel bad. It is that simple.

Now you might wonder, "okay, how's that a freaking revelation to you?" Well, my answer is a simple one: the more than a decade I've spent in the left constantly made me feel like shit and I know almost all of you can relate.

Somehow, when it comes to all the different aspects of my life, the inbuilt, dare I say biological thrust for self-preservation is operating in me normally: I avoid things to the best of my ability that infringe upon my well being, while seeking things that I find pleasing, beautiful, inspiring, enlightening, meaningful, uplifting, intimate, humorous, or just… cool. Yet somehow, when it comes to one of the most important aspects of my life, namely, politics, where all that is important about the human condition converge, I, like I'm convinced almost all of us Western leftists have, been put through the leftist initiation phase (and a truly unconscious one at that) that conditioned me to put up with shit, worse, to deeply care about or attempt to change or involve myself with shit people, shit organizations, meaningless debates, completely hopeless situations, and so on. To be a Western leftist is to fight losing battles and be proud about it. Worse, I, like I believe most of us Western leftists have, been conditioned to believe that this is what proper leftist struggle is, that this is what taking responsibility on the left looks like.

But this is a blatant lie, and I realize this now.

Before I go into the details of this lie, I feel like I should give you some concrete examples you might be able to relate to and see for yourself if it has hurt or demoralized you as much as it did me. Take the crucial case of discipline, which can range from minutia like you, as a supposed comrade of mine, not being consistently late half an hour from every meeting we hold (literally wasting the precious time capitalism allowed us to have), to serious infringements on organizational principles, like bravely and voluntarily (!) taking up an important task just to abandon it behind our backs when we trusted you with it, and then expect the rest of us to just forgive the incident as if it was merely a jest. And we do forgive you, holy fucking shit, we do. Or take the example of your own theoretical development: while the rest of us are seriously studying Marxism, when we discuss what we learned, you joke around, insert your (pre-made and completely cliche) hot takes you've learned from internet memes, and expect us to tolerate your infantile idiocy. And we tolerate you, holy fucking shit, we actually tolerate you, and force a smile on our faces, the hypocrites we are. And lastly – and not to say that I couldn't go on with this list for hours –, take the case when you try to dominate the organization via your pet-peeve issue, positioning yourself as the victim, and expecting us that we comply out of politically correct reasons, allowing you to transform the organization into your personal tool for vendetta, in essence giving you unearned powers inside the organization. And we comply, while holding back our critiques, sharing them maybe with a few inside said organization, but staying silent about it because… because we love to cuck ourselves. There's no way to put it.

I'm done with this shit. All of it. I came to understand that there's literally no way to """teach""" discipline to supposed comrades. Either you have complete devotion to the cause or you don't have sufficient discipline that would match the tasks that are dictated by our supposedly shared goals, and me trying to "reason you into discipline" is impossible in not completely nonsensical, just like "giving a set of ethics" to other people is impossible or nonsensical, since its a lived set of relations and not an abstract, acquirable ruleset.

Just how Poland can not into space, »I can not into you.« Either You become a proper communist, putting into it your all, or there's no other outside force that can "force you" there. I came to realize that I can not even make people interested in reading Marx, Engels, Lenin. I can't. Either You already detected the need in Your life to read them, suspecting in advance that they offer You a way to our collective salvation, or You will never read them. It's literally impossible for us to emancipate You, when you don't wan't to emancipate yourself. »You yourself can not into you.« Either You realize that our organization built upon collectivist principles offers all of its constituent parts a road for bettering themselves, and You come to respect it for this reason, or You don't, and You come to see it as another possible pathway to vent, to power-trip, to insert into which that little Particular that You (falsely) believe to be the "true" you, making us, the rest of the collective, into Your playthings. »You can not into us.«

I hope I elucidated above, I really do, moreover, I hope that you, as a supposed comrade, can relate to the completely pointless struggles I've just gave a slice of, specifically from the perspective of the collective, instead of finding yourself to be identified with the "You" in the above sentences, that would portray the image of the typical "bad comrade."

So let me get back to the "lie".

Cont? Shamelessly seeking encouragement to continue…
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We need a debunk thread on here
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I am writing this to address an absolutely gigantic blindspot of the Left, which I have seen Far-right groups,
Ethnonationalists,Nazbols and other assorted Fascists seize upon.This is the question of how diversity effects
trust in a society.

Since the Left has not addressed the issue, the right has utilized it convert many thousand's of people and bolster
their arguments, since they are free to say that ethnically homogenous societies have much more trust as compared to
Diverse societies and thus ethnonationalism is justified.The Far-right has also brow beaten Civic nationalists in this

Now Let's see the evidence against the fact that diversity reduces social trust.

>The most Important study In this Issue In the Putnam one, let's see what it contains

Putnam (2007) is easily the most often cited paper to show that diversity negatively impacts communities. Putnam shows that participants from more diverse regions reported lower levels of social capital, the degree to which neighbors interact with and trust one another, even after controlling for individual and regional differences in social and economic variables.
>What is often ignored in second-hand accounts of this paper is that the multivariate effect, the impact of diversity after controlling for all these confounding variables, was statistically significant but minuscule. Local ethnic diversity independently accounted for less than 1% of the variation in trust.Before controlling for confounding variables, the relationship between an area’s level of trust and ethnic diversity looked strong and negative.
>Moreover, it wasn’t the strongest effect measured. At the individual level, the best predictors were, in order, a participant’s age, whether they owned a home, their level of education, and whether they were Black. The strongest regional predictors, in order, were census tract poverty rate, crime rate, ethnic diversity, and population density.
>Going from an area with zero diversity to an area with maximum diversity would be predicted to lower trust by .14 points on a 4 point scale. (Diversity has a minimum of .25) By contrast, going from maximum to minimum poverty increase trust by .66 points.
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The RWDSU’s debacle at Amazon
>The crushing defeat for the Retail, Warehouse and Department Store Union at Amazon’s Bessemer, Alabama plant exposes the extent of workers’ alienation from the pro-corporate unions.


This article makes several good points:
1. The union drive was top down.
2. “The union advanced no demands related to compensation or working conditions.”
3. “The only concrete result for workers of bringing in the RWDSU would mean the additional subtraction of union dues from their poverty-level paychecks.”
Others reasons.
Reason 2 says it all: why bother voting? It’s already clear the union will do nothing.
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Why does/did most talk of race in America revolve almost entirely around black people? Hell, they aren't even the largest minority group in the US anymore. But so much talk of race and racism seems to be centered on them. "Race realism" is almost exclusively about black people as well.
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Elon Mindfucks Monke

You reds will obey or he'll do it to you too.
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So Close yet so Far

So I read Far-right websites in order to understand our enemy better and to keep an eye on what they're up to next. Sometimes they veer so close to the truth and then back off because they have a pathological aversion to Communism. This is from Counter Currents a website which has around 300,000 visitors a month(for comparison Jacobin has around 3,000,000)

>Allow me, dear reader, to take you on a fantastic journey to a mythical time known as the “middle tens.” It was a period between 2012 and 2018 when the hottest political movement was populism.

>Many got hung up on the word “populist” and its corollary “working class.” Some used it euphemistically, to mean working-class whites
>It got so absurd that the owners of small industrial businesses were lumped into that great mass of “the working class” or “working-class whites
LOL even a WN admits that small business are not working class, while Stupidpol Insists that they are.

>Working from the term “working class,” many became convinced that the way to get ahead of the national populist wave was to adopt working-class politics. The way out would be tried-and-true methods of syndicalism, trade-unionism, and a perennial favorite on the Dissident Right: fascism. It was a way of going full fash without going full fash, or at least without the bells and whistles of full fash, which always invite the slings and arrows of the hostile media.

So we see here that populists don't actually care for the working class it is Just a ruse. Also Blood and Soil Fascists are our enemies no matter what they say.

>Hence, working men collectivized and attempted to improve their position in bargaining by bargaining collectively. The result was trade unions, which were organizations that could compel employers to improve wages and working conditions by threatening to deny capitalists access to labor

>An often-overlooked aspect of unionism was the necessity to maintain solidarity and prevent defections, which unions first maintained based on shared ethnic and religious background. Later, as labor forces became more diverse, more violent means and cooperation with organized crime outfits was employed.
Some more Rightoid bullshit muh homogeneity, if it was truly that important then why do we see the unionization efforts in Alabama a state with one of the worst race relations

>And what’s more, what wage-earners do exist not only aren’t unionized, but their positions would be eliminated and automated if they did. Most of these positions exist on the sufferance of the political and capitalist class because it isn’t politically expedient to automate them. If, however, fast food workers, supermarket checkout girls, or PowerPoint presentation makers in megacorps were to unionize, their positions would be eliminated and they’d be made redundant, eliminating even the need to fire them.

>Donald Trump brought back some of the manufacturing jobs, proving that it is possible to reinvigorate not only a manufacturing economy but also the economic class that depends on it. However, those jobs can also be very easily automated away, or even sent back to China or an even poorer nonwhite shithole with two-cents-per-hour average wages if they should unionize or try to strike.
So now he hits the nail on the head, Capitalism must be dismantled in order For the workers to be secure, But what is this Rightoids solution.
>Agrarian National Populism

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Stop denying Tiananmen square and making the left look bad
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Welp edition
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Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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What exactly would "decolonization" entail in a settler state?

Decolonizing a non-settler colony is pretty simple: just kick out the colonizers. However, you can't really do this so easily in settler colonies since large numbers of settlers live in the colony, and in many cases outnumber the indigenous people. It seems you could just try to give all ethnic groups equality, but I don't think that's quite what decolonization means. You could also give indigenous people autonomy or even independence in areas where they comprise the majority, but I am not sure if that is enough for decolonization activists. I've also heard about changing all place names to indigenous names, but I am not sure that would really make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.
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People here have a great disdain for idpol here, and I think it that's coming from a misunderstanding of idpol. There are two different forms idpol, one seeks to become nothing else other than itself the other seeks to break away from itself and become something else entirely. The first form of idpol should be avoided as it seeks nothing other than a circle jerking of itself, while the second one seeks liberated itself from the shackles of the identity. An example of the first kind of idpol is that of white nationalism. White nationalists seek nothing other than celebrate their whiteness, their goal is nothing other than their whiteness. Another example of this is liberal feminism, what is distinct about liberal feminism is they self-perpetuate that women are lesser than men rather than escape the dichotomy.

An example of the second kind of idpol is that of the proletariat. The proletarian seeks to escape the identity of the worker, whose identity is defined by being the exploited class, that works long hard hours, and has nothing to sell other than his labor power. While also the proletarian seeks not to become the bourgeoisie, whose identity is defined as the exploiter, those who own the means of production. But rather a freeman, who has escaped this dichotomy, who chooses to do what he desires. I think a common mistake made by Marxist states, which Murray Bookchin pointed out in Post-Scarcity Anarchism, is that propaganda they chose to present themselves as, that being productive states run by busy bee workers. This is a mistake as the worker should not celebrate his proletarianess but rather seek to seek to be free of it. I've noticed that in communist art, celebrates the worker and his identity as a worker, rather in anarchist and libertarian socialist art celebrates the idea of being a free society. As Lenin said in What is to be Done? The worker only becomes a revolutionary when he learns to despise his workerness and becomes to detest his class status. The black power movement, those in it seek to break free their blackness as defined as lesser, uncivilized, dirty but also not to become the white man, who is defined as the greater, civilized, clean. The seek to create an identity of blackness that is separate and free from the dichotomy that they escaped.

Another form of the first kind of idpol that is to be avoided is one where the person seeks to stop being the exploited but become the exploiter instead of transcending above his masters, in essence slave morality. An example of this when of proletariat instead of wishing he were free, seeks to become the bourgeoisie. He mistakes the bourgeoisie for being free which they are not, even though they still get the better end to the deal. They are still chained to identity of the bourgeoisie, who is constant battle with other members of the bourgeoisie in order to stay a member. The same can be said about the black man who seeks to become like that of the white man, instead of transcending above him.
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did gopnik culture exist in the ussr ?
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Finally I found something short to post of Castillo coming to Lima. If he passes, the left and the antifujimorists will need to unite to face the 3 faces of Fujimorism. de Soto, Fujimori and Lopez Aliaga.
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News 4/9/21

It's A No: Amazon Warehouse Workers Vote Against Unionizing In Historic Election
The majority of Amazon's workers in Bessemer, Ala., voted against joining the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union. The final tally was 1,798 votes against unionizing versus 738 votes in favor of union. That means Amazon has withstood the largest union push yet among its U.S. workers and avoided the prospect of its first unionized warehouse in America. Nearly 5,900 people work at Amazon's Bessemer facility and more than half cast ballots in the election.

'Made of plastic': Cleaning up Bolivia's Uru Uru lake
“It’s a shame that so much garbage has come here because it has accumulated in many years, perhaps a decade. Now we have to think about the future. Let’s clean and then we become aware so that we don’t have to clean again,” he said.

Vigils to be held this weekend to mark two years since Assange's arrest
Vigils are being held on Sunday by campaigners outside Belmarsh in south-east London, and the Ecuadorian embassy, where Mr Assange spent seven years before he was dragged out by British police in 2019. Supporters will call for his release.

Chinese navy ships chase Philippine news crew in South China Sea as US, Manila express concern
The PLA Navy deployed two vessels carrying missiles to drive away the boat ferrying the news team as it travelled across reefs in Palawan US Secretary of State Blinken and his Philippine counterpart Locsin expressed their concerns about Chinese militia vessels in the Whitsun Reef

Iran nuclear talks to continue next week after breakthrough
Talks on the terms for the US and Iran to come back into compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal are to resume next week after making sufficient progress since Tuesday’s breakthrough agreement on a roadmap for both sides. The US has not been in direct talks with the Iranian delegation in Vienna this week but is relaying messages mainly to European members of the body that oversees the deal.

Ukraine Rules Out Offensive Against Pro-Russia Separatists
Ukraine said on Friday it would not launch an offensive against pro-Russia separatists controlling two regions in the east, as fears grow of a major escalation in a long-running conflict. The statement came after fighting between the Ukrainian army and separatists intensified in recent weeks and Russia massed troops on the border.

South Korea unveils domestically developed KF-X prototype fighter jet, president hails ‘new era’ of defense independence (PHOTOS)
At an elaborate ceremony on Friday, the KF-X prototype fighter jet, officially christened “KF-21 Boramae,” was rolled out for the first time. Speaking at the rollout ceremony, President Moon Jae-in said “a new era of independent defense has begun.”

CPI Maoist Squad Exchange Fire With Security Forces In Kandhamal District
Following the encounter, Odisha Police busted a Maoist camp in Kalampada forest and seized arms and ammunition, reported Kandhamal Superintendent of Police Vineet Agarwal. However, there was no report of casualty in the firefight which took place in the dense forest on Monday, he said.

Kenyan communists arrested while planning protest in Nairobi
The Communist Party of Kenya (CPK) members were detained on Wednesday as party activists prepared for the Unlock Democracy demonstration against the government’s “disastrous and anti-scientific” approach to the coronavirus pandemic.

Brazil reports record 4,249 Covid-19 deaths in 24 hours
Brazil on Thursday set a new record of 4,249 coronavirus deaths in a day, another daily record raising total to 345,25 since the beginning of the pandemic in February 2020, the Government reported. For the second time this week, Brazil reported over 4,000 coronavirus deaths in 24 hours.

Latin America Lost 26 Million Jobs in 2020 Due to the Pandemic
The average employment rate fell from 57.4 percent to 51.7 percent. Job contractions were recorded in formal and informal sectors, with the latter being the most affected. The employment reduction did not affect equally men and women. Over the last year, female unemployment exceeded by 18 percentage points the decrease in male employment.

Third of Antarctic ice shelves ‘will collapse amid 4C global heating’
More than a third of the vast floating platforms of ice surrounding Antarctica could be at risk of collapsing and releasing “unimaginable amounts” of water into the sea if global temperatures reach 4C above pre-industrial levels, UK scientists say.
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Cytube thread


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From Absolut to Volkswagen, Blending Is the New Branding
<the following are exerts of the article exploring new long-term trends in advertising. It's worth reading in full
Although various forces are driving these debrands — from the vagaries of fashion to the constraints of mobile-first design — the most interesting is the power of flatter identities to become portals through which companies can project an infinite range of moods, flavors and messages.

For generations brands have aspired to be magnets, spending vast sums drawing consumers to them like iron filings, there to be held captive by the world’s finest strategists, artists and technicians.

Blends take the opposite approach — overlaying themselves onto consumers and integrating themselves into their lives. This is by no means passivity, but a more flexible form of persuasion.

An interesting (if subtle) example emerged from a recent McDonald’s outdoor campaign promoting British home delivery during lockdown.

Two interconnected elements of this work stand out: First, that the “golden arches” are so iconic that McDonald’s need not speak its name; and second, that the corporate glow dives into and shines out from the consumers’ window. In a departure from decades of Big Mac hero shots, or the virally pedagogical “two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun,” McDonald’s now positions itself — with complete confidence — in the background.

A swathe of magnet brands — from Nike and Gucci to BMW and Apple — are shrugging off conventional qualms of “brand dilution” by allowing customers to customize their products. And even retail rooted in physical presence may slowly evaporate to the cloud. You can already order custom footwear from your cellphone, and may soon be able to obtain remote robotic tattoos.

By meeting consumers in their own lives, blending enables brands to transcend platitudes and genuinely tackle inclusivity. For instance, both Crayola and Band-Aid recently launched new product lines intended to address the shame of one-skin-tone-fits-all

Blurring is also central to the burgeoning world of podcasts. According to 2019 data from the Interactive Advertising Bureau, only 6% of U.S. podcast advertisements were supplied directly by brands or agencies, whereas 66% were read by hosts. Survey after survey suggests that host-read ads are more memorable and effective, and Spotify for Podcasters explains why:

> “Unlike traditional radio or TV advertising, host-read ads are increasingly being tailored to the listener and the intimate, earbud-induced environment that podcasting fosters. … One tactic is to have the host share a funny personal anecdote that relates (directly or tangentially) to the product being pitched (aka the Maron method). And then there’s the Pod Saves America approach, where the hosts make a sport of riffing on — and at times openly mocking — the ad copy, to the point where it feels more like a casual water-cooler conversation than an ad break.”

When every sidewalk is a catwalk, every pose a pitch and every quip a commercial, “product placement” morphs from 007’s $36 million Heineken flash to a deliberately blended miasma. And because authenticity is the new artifice, many influencers work hard to eschew (like Volkswagen) a “perfect advertising world.” As @mypaleskinblog solemnly informed her 759,000 followers in a paid post for @olayuk, “being happy doesn’t mean that everything is perfect.”
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So today I got told to stop talking about politics and economics at work. I'm pretty much dying inside laughing. I'm still on the clock. What is to be done? I'm going to talk to my union rep about this. She also told me i can't express my "opinions" about unions and that I should only direct people to our union stewart. Which i am almost positive that is against the law. I am in burger land. Anyone have any advice for me or tips for dealing with this? I literally had to stop my self from laughing in my managers face. Thiughts
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Glowie NGOs

What do we know about these groups? Pic related is just a few examples, feel free to mention more that exist.
How do you convince a normie these glowie NGOs are feeding you bullshit?
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Thread on one of the most unstable parts of the world.
Hope local anons will contribute.


-Ansarullah's Marib offensive in Yemen is going on but getting progressively slower and slower: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1k_5mC2oHM9Lj4I5irFA0pkXbqKQ&ll=15.368048501226081%2C45.226202631639545&z=12

-Lebanon's collapse accelerating, sparking protests
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A true revolution in the US will start with Amazon, not Washington D.C.

I know this looks like a forced wank-off "effort"post but bear with me, this is not a shitpost, I'm not being edgy on purpose, I've given this a lot of thought, etc.

The basic reasoning that led me to this conclusion is as follows: after the covid-19 outbreak and the lockdown which led to riots across the country, the US has probably gotten the closest it ever has to "collapsing" with the January 6th in the storming of capitol from MAGA protestors. But even prior to this unfolding it's become more and more noticeable to me just how irrelevant Washington DC is, these days, in playing in a role in anyones lives. Ever since Obamacare it's only had the power to pass milquetoast reforms that impact nothing in concrete reality. During the BLM protests earlier last year Trump was completely incompitent in encouraging the States to enforce any kind of code, and resorted to hiding in a bunker until everyone basically got tired. Even overseas the USA is losing to other hegemonies on the majority of fronts a la Evo Morales, Venezuela, Syria, and general trade with the Middle East and Africa.

My theory is basically this:
The rise of the Trump administration – and the end of any pretense of welfare in the United States – has slowly been creating a power vacuum leading up to the outbreak of the virus that has allowed Amazon to inadvertantly gain power. I'm convinced that even if the alt-right succesfully stormed the capital and killed all the senators there, basically nothing would have happened on a day-to-day subjective level. I think this makes sense intuitively: what role does the goings-on of D.C. filibusters even PLAY in your day-to-day life anymore?

Now compare that to Amazon. The introducion of quarantine radically expanded their influence over the country. And this isn't just in retail; Almost every instance where digital technology mediates your interaction with the economy Amazon is in the middle because THEY host the servers for things like Uber, Twitter, and Twitch. Every platform that isn't hosted by Google or Microsoft is hosted by Amazon. This power growth is even observable on platforms like Twitch and Twitter taking a harsher stance on the alt-right over the past 2 years and cracking down on alt-right media heavily on their platforms, up to and including that of the former President of the United States himself, which would have been considered impossible by anyone living in the USA a decade ago.
Amazon's status can be summed as follows:
1) near-total control of the distribution of wholesale and retail goods in the US
2) half-total control over the new generation of alternative media
There are workers unions already forming in the warehouses of Amazon all over the country. They are ALREADY waiting for a shift in power at headquarters. As cringey and stupid as this sounds to say, I think if there is a revolution in the US, Amazon's headquarters will be the Petrograd, not Washington D.C. But I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks.
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What's the point of marxism?

Seriously, what is the point of marxism in the 21st century? It supposed to be the ultimate formula, which should guide humanity into a bright future. But today, there are like 1000000000000000000 interpretations and theories of marxism, from random theoreticians like Gramsci, Bordiga, Unruhe up to "practicians" like Lenin, Xi, Kim, Gonzalo etc. Marxist scholars from contemporary socialist countries like Vietnam, China, DPRK etc. have totally contradicting theories and analysis of the world. Marxism was supposed to be THE scientific and enlightened counter argument to idealism and irrationality. But the gordian knot of marxism has become so complicated and intricate over the past 100 years, that it seems totally impossible to untangle this mess.
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The nature of the bureaucracy under Marxism-Leninism.

What is the nature of the bureaucracy under the Marxist-Leninist state model? Under normal circumstances, the bureaucracy lacks any real agency of its own, instead serving as a mechanism for carrying out the functions of the real ruling class, e.g. capitalists, nobility, etc. For this reason it is generally not considered a force in and of itself in Marxist analysis. However this does not appear to be the case in actually existing Marxist-Leninist states, which for the purposes of this discussion will also include “socialist market economies” such as China and Vietnam. For example, I find it difficult to explain the collapse of the Soviet Union without coming to the conclusion that the bureaucracy constitutes a unique stratum with its own interests, capable of diverging from those of the workers, if not constituting an actual class. We all know the story of the collapse of the USSR:
>After WW2 country experiences strong and steady growth until the 70s
>Growth slows in the 70s, Soviet leadership experiments with various solutions including cybernetics and market reforms
>Goes with market reforms as the “tried and true” method, also because cybernetics viewed with skepticism and hostility by the bureaucrats it would replace
>After market reforms, bureaucrats realize they can have more wealth/power as capitalists
>Proceed to dismantle the USSR from above against the wishes of the population
>Many mid level bureaucrats (like Putin) go on to become oligarchs of former-Soviet states.
This points definitively to the bureaucracy having the capacity for independent, even reactionary tendencies, which can put them at odds with the bulk of the workers. Without the bureaucracy as an autonomous force, the dissolution of the USSR simply makes no sense. How is this possible? What granted the bureaucracy under 20th century socialism the capacity to act with this level of independence that is unheard of under previous social formations? I believe the answer lies in the nature of the relationship of the state to the economic base. Under normal circumstances, the state springs up through the common union of the ruling class, recognizing their mutual interests which are opposed to those they exploit. Lords combine into kingdoms for the purposes of mutual protection from the peasantry and other lords, capitalists combine into republics and commonwealths for the purposes of protecting their property from workers, etc. In such a situation, the state is directed by a ruling class that controls the means of production. The state itself has no agency independent of the ruling class, because it is directly controlled by them. Moreover, the state can only reproduce itself through the extraction of rents from the process of production, i.e. taxation, thus its health is tied to the health of the economic base. Occasionally, there will arise states which do not answer directly to the ruling class, that is the ruling class has no formal mechanism to directly control state power. This is the case in military or fascist dictatorships for example. However even states which have the political tools to act independently of a ruling class must in practice see to the maintenance of the means of its reproduction, i.e. of the existing economic system and the interests therein. A capitalist cannot compel a military junta to act in a given way, on the contrary if they really wanted to such a government could easily make him disappear in the night. However because the state must still fund itself through appropriating a portion of his profits, their interests are attached to that of the capitalist.

What then caused this to change under 20th century socialism? I think the answer is pretty straight forwards. Under 20th century socialism the state controlled the means of production, and thus controlled the means of its own reproduction. Under the conditions which arose in the Soviet Union and similar states, the state and bureaucracy could reproduce itself directly through control of the economy, and the absence of any other class on which they were economically dependent allowed the bureaucracy to behave as an independent force. Moreover the establishment of the party as a mass organization with professional officials involved in virtually every aspect of economic and political life transformed the bureaucracy from a small clique of civil servants into something resembling a mass category. Arguably this allows them to constitute an independent class, however even leaving that question aside for a moment, they clearly compose a stratum with a distinct character. All of this was maintained by a series of repressive and ideological state apparatuses which initially evolved to protect the revolution, but which fell into the hands of the bureaucracy following Stalin's death.
What then is the character of this bureaucratic stratum? I think that the history of actually existing socialism until the present day can shed a great deal of light on this, and in particular I would like to point to three divergent examples: Russia, Cuba, and China.
The Soviet Union showed that the bureaucracy can have both progressive and reactionary tendencies. The USSR arose in a worker-peasant revolution, but the encirclement by imperialism, the necessity of repressing counter-revolutionary forces, and Russia's underdevelopment all made the implementation of a genuine proletarian democracy quite difficult. This led to the emergence of a bureaucratic stratum which began to take shape under Stalin, and which began to exercise real power under Khrushchev. The Soviet bureaucracy played a progressive role in world history for the next several decades, fighting against imperialism, aiding revolutionary and national liberation movements around the world, and dramatically improving the conditions of working people in socialist countries. Their actions also indirectly led to the emergence of social democracy in the West. It would be safe to say that during the Soviet period, the bureaucracy governed in alliance with the working class, and viewed their interests as largely aligned, if not one and the same. However as previously mentioned, thanks to the market reforms of the 80s, they realized that they could be wealthier and more powerful as capitalists, and they set about implementing a capitalist restoration, and transforming themselves into capitalists in the process. Such people still largely govern Russia today.
Like virtually all Marxist-Leninist states, Cuba is governed by a bureaucratic stratum of a similar type to that which existed in the USSR. However unlike their Russian counterparts, the Cuban bureaucracy has not seen fit to implement a serious capitalist restoration in their country. Moreover, they have made definitive moves towards more closely aligning with the workers via the expansion of various mechanisms of grassroots democracy in Cuba. Indeed this may even constitute a very early phase of “the withering away of the state.” A similar situation appears to prevail in the DPRK. In these countries the alliance between workers and the bureaucratic state remains intact, and as such they have maintained a socialist economic system complete with all the associated protections and stability it provides to workers.
Between these two extremes sit the “socialist market economies” of China and Vietnam. In these countries there has indeed been a capitalist restoration, but unlike in Russia it has not happened alongside the transformation of the bureaucracy into capitalists themselves. Instead the bureaucracy has kept large segments of the economy (the “commanding heights”) under their direct control, while retaining their near-exclusive grip on state power and opening up other sectors to private enterprise and the bourgeoisie. In other words the state still maintains partial control of the means of production, and thus the means of its reproduction. This endows the bureaucracy with a higher degree of independence, but the major economic importance of private enterprise and the bourgeoisie means this independence is not complete. Thus it maintains a level of autonomy which sits somewhere between the complete control seen in the USSR and the total subservience to the bourgeoisie seen in the West. This partial autonomy is generally what supporters of these models point to when arguing that socialism and the dictatorship of the proletariat is intact in these countries (e.g. the CPC executed billionaires, the bourgeoisie does not control the party, etc.). Under these social formations, the party bureaucracy has taken advantage of relatively high rates of profit and immense room for growth to promote the general enrichment of their countries via developmentalist capitalism, and ensured that the benefits of this growth are seen by both capitalists and workers. They have effectively cobbled together an alliance of both the bourgeoisie and the proletariat under the leadership of the bureaucracy. In short, they have reverted to kind of social democracy as a means of overcoming isolation and underdevelopment. However like all social democracies, the interests of workers and capitalists inevitably become antagonistic, and the model disintegrates. At the current moment it is unclear how the bureaucracy of these countries will react to this situation once it arises, however as we have seen, they are capable of both reactionary and progressive tendencies, so it could go either way. That is, they could side with the bourgeoisie and implement an austerity based agenda, or they could side with the proletariat and move back towards a planned economy.

From all this we can see that the chief characteristic of this stratum is its chameleon-like ability to enter into an effective alliance with workers, peasants, capitalists, or any combination thereof. To borrow terminology from Mao, this bureaucratic stratum appears to have no inherently antagonistic contradiction with any of these classes. As a result, it appears to be capable of carrying out actions ranging from blatant counter-revolution (as in the USSR) to implementing the early stages of its own subordination to the workers (as in Cuba) to making a retreat from socialism but maintaining at least some autonomy from the exploiting class (as in China).

What does /leftypol/ think? Does the bureaucracy constitute an independent force or even a class? How do they relate to various other classes?
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The Trial of Derek Chauvin and the killing of George Floyd

Today is the first day of the Trial. It begins at 9am CST.

Jury Selection took 12 days. 12/12 Jurors selected. (7 women, 5 men) 3/3 Alternate Jurors Selected. (2 women, 1 man)

131 Potential Jurors were reviewed. Some dismissed before being reviewed in court. Many reviewed in court. On March 17th, 2 other previously selected jurors were dismissed due to settlement news.

Supreme Court has allowed conviction for BOTH 2nd and 3rd degree murder. Also a conviction for 2nd degree Manslaughter is on the table.

Judge blocked motions from the defense on delays or relocation. Also ruled in favor of the state on a previous arrest in May 2019.

Floyd Family was given a settlement of 27 million dollars which will be paid by the taxpayers of Minneapolis.

The male alternative juror is the 15th juror. If all of the 14 previous jurors show up? Then he will be dismissed (He's pro-cop but passed for for cause.) If not? He's an alternate.

Official Swearing In and Opening Statements is planned for Day 1.

I will be hosting the trial daily until the verdict is read.

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Minority groups are an example of the failure of class collaborationism

It occurred to me that people somehow believe that rich lgbts like ellen degeneres or caitlyn jenner are exactly the same as poor ones who get kicked on the street at 15 and get addicted to heroin while homeless and then commit suicide. Think about it. Rich fags dont give a fuck about homeless suicidal homos. They think the most important issue of our time is calling it "chestfeeding" instead of breastfeeding while trannies in britain cant get hrt. Theyre retards who live in safe spaces and have no clue what its like on the streets
The rich and poor lgbts can work together for the benefit of fags everywhere… except now the rich ones are so insulated from hardship they dont even give a fuck.
It's the same thing with women and racial minorities. Every rich minority CEO or congresswoman or investor is a sellout.
Why do people not recognize class division among minority groups? Why do we talk about "the lgbt community" and not "the lgbt proletariat" and "lgbt bourgeoisie"?
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Auschwitz was the futuristic communist utopia many lounge for

>Nobody in there worked in agriculture, meaning production was very advanced. No dirty food made by smelly peasants
>There were no markets (BASED)
>All was cybernetically central planned with the help of the most advanced technology available at that time
>Science was always held in the most high regard
>There was a swimming pool
Take the Auschwitzpill, anon
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What are you guys actually doing to progress socialism? You don't believe in the political process so what are you doing? How are you helping people? Where are the general strikes? Where is the unionizing? Is the modern left nothing but empty twitter and imageboard posting?
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The Glory Days

How big was Leftypol on the old 8Chan board, they were in the top 10 most active boards. At that time how was board culture like? Also was Leftypol close to dethroning /Pol/ at any point and turning 8Chan Leftist. And how did everything fall apart? I found this unbiased article on old Leftypol.

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War of the Camps

Can someone redpill me on the war of the camps?
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BREAKING: Neoliberal autocrat AOC sends armed thugs (Capitol Police) to intimidate Twitter user for being critical of her politics

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will english always be the world language?

on the one hand it seems like the imposition of the internet and its origins in the US caused a global syncretism of English and concretized its status as a global language, perhaps permanently.
but on the other hand it would be just as easy to assume that the spread of christianity would have done the same for latin in europe, but now latin is a completely dead and almost irrelevant language outside of academia due to the decline of the Roman Empire.
we are definitely seeing something similar with the decline of American imperialism in the 21st century, but the only competing world power as of now is China, and mandarin's language paradigm of having so many characters makes it quite difficult for it to be imported to the likes of even Arabic and African countries, since they follow a very similar system to Europe with phonetics being described by a small set of characters.
so what does /leftypol/ think?
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>Nowa Huta is one of only two planned socialist realist settlements or districts ever built (the other being Magnitogorsk in Russia) and "one of the most renowned examples of deliberate social engineering" in the entire world.[1] Built as a utopian ideal city, its street hierarchy, layout and certain grandeur of buildings often resemble Paris or London. The high abundance of parks and green areas in Nowa Huta make it the greenest corner of Kraków.[2]

Is it based?
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Gutfeld and Right wing humor

If you haven't heard of conservative "comedian" Greg Gutfeld, you probably have a few more brain cells than me. He recently launched a "comedy" show on Fox News and its worse than you think.

This is 150% boomer cringe. I fucking hate smarmy liberals like John Oliver, but even he looks like a comedic genius compared to this absolute cringe which includes such hamfisted "sketches" as a CNN panel saying they're racist over and over and a dozen bits about that time Brian Williams pretended to be in a war 6 years ago.

The right may be able to meme (at least before they got infested by boomers, so around 2017, maybe later on fullchan), but they can't actually make anyone laugh for shit. Every right wing "comedian" from boomers like Gutfeld to people like that AwakenwithJP guy, have the exact same bit - "I'm so edgy for being against cancel culture", something 90% of people are against already.

The only vaguely funny right wing humor that is actually good were those "can't stump the trump" montages from 2015, or that video of the fake "Japanese" trump commercial from 2016, or the first couple seasons of south park. Maybe Dennis Miller (pre fox news) or if you really wanna go on a limb, MDE/Sam Hyde but that sort of post-ironic chan-inspired shit is probably too esoteric to appeal to boomers.

In relation to fox news in particular they seem to be trying to tow a fine line between "family friendly" content that tells a conservative suburban dad what he wants to hear, and actually doing anything edgy.

Why is the right so bad at jokes?
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Military Ranks in the Early Red Army

I heard that the Bolsheviks at first kinda supported the Abolishment of Military Ranks and Hierarchy, but then decided that it wasn't practical. Even Stalin supported it. Does somebody know more about this and is this Idea something worth supporting in this day and age?
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Online Operations Red HQ

Hello comrades so I've created a matrix room specifically for *legal* discussion of online operations/cyber warfare.
This has no affiliation with leftypol, I'm just a user.
I simply expect this to be a good place to find fellow travellers interested in online operations.
Obviously this will be a massive glow bait so if you'd like to join DO NOT use your' regular account.
Create a new one to only be used there.
Also take care not to give any personally identifiable information to anyone on the server or in dms, myself included.
Finally do not endorse, plan, or share any illegal materials or actions.
In the case of a breach of any of these rules you will be banned until you create a new identity or permanently.
If you have any questions please feel free to send me a DM I'm @priliv:matrix.org.
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/nordpol/ - Nordic General - Skåneutgåvan

Thread for all things Nordic. Recommended languages: Finnish, Scandinavian and English.
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A thread to discuss Deng Xiaoping Thought and its achievements

-Those willing to learn about Dengism

Not welcome:
-Western chauvinists
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What was the best us president after FDR

Hard Mode: without mentioning foreign policy
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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees

Második felvonás!
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Combat Left Liberalism

Sahra Wagenknecht will publish her new book in the next days, but there are some excerpts from it already online. One of these excerpts is an analysis of Left Liberalism . I've read it and it really blew my mind. Left Liberalism is basically a completely new ideology. The proponents of this ideology are NOT liberal leftists and are also NOT left-wing liberals. It is crucial to make this distinction! According to Wagenknecht, Left Liberalism is neither left nor liberal, since it negates the key values of both ideologies: Equality (leftism) and Freedom (liberalism). I've translated her analysis and posted it here:

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Is it fair to argue that Marx was a bit wrong when he came to the conclusion that Socialism or Communism was the kernel which contained the negation of Capitalism, and instead neo-feudalism is the next system to replace capitalism as we know it; a capitalist and bourgeois relation leads to a neo-feudal and rentier relation.

It’s very obvious that Marx and Engels came to their conclusions because of the working class a labor movements as they were developing from the 1840s to the 1890s. From that horizon one can come to the conclusion that the culmination would be working class and labor victory leading to communism. But new developments which eventually culminated in the neoliberal shift of the 1970s have been driving us to today, which is seeing a shift towards neo-feudalism and a rentier economy. I don’t want people to misunderstand me and think I’m saying Marx and Engels and every other socialist was wrong and that their discoveries have no value, but that’s not what I’m saying. Historical materialism and dialectical materialism are still some of the most important forms of analysis when it comes to understanding how a society develops based on its class and production based relations. All I’m saying is that perhaps it isn’t that communism is dead or that labor is dead, but that perhaps there’s a step socialists couldn’t see before now because we made presuppositions that capitalism would not develop into anything else but socialism. And perhaps neo-feudalism and the rentier economy is a necessary stage that leads to revolution and perhaps communism once and for all. All I’m asking is for people to take a step back and wonder if we have to go through a few extra steps towards socialism and communism. Steps that we perhaps could not see until now.
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State Crypto

I would post this in /prc/, but this seems to be a bit bigger of a topic. What do you guys think about state-run cryptocurrency?
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Against the market

Does anybody have a pdf of this so I dont have to buy it?
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Marxist Leninists told me that there are passages in late-Marx, especially in Das Kapital & Gotha, where he basically lays down the mechanisms of non-capitalist surplus acquisition.

Is this true?
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/crisis/ General

💰️DOW/Market Watch Thread💰️
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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/QTDDTOT/ – Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread

Last thread: >>983378

Why did the Soviet Union annex Moldova but not Romania, eventually at least? Might as well have gone all out and annexed all Romanian-speaking lands.
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What's the communist/anarchist alternative to the police?

I agree with most leftist critiques against the police but still wonder what kind of body will help average people against criminals and shit.
As much as I'd like to think that the material conditions that led people to becoming criminals in the first place will go away in socialism, I still think violent incidents will still happen at leeast on a minor scale.
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Michael Hudson

What is this Board's Opinion on Michael Hudson? He is apparently highly controversial on Marxist Circles, but the guy makes the Impression that he knows his shit. Or maybe he is just focused on Finance Capital, because he worked there and saw some things he can't let go of. What do Thinkers like Cockshott of him also?
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/EUROpol/ European Politics General

Are you sitting down?
1. Dutch government resigns amid child welfare benefits scandal
2. Angela Merkel stepping down.
3. Estonia Prime Minister missing
4. Italian government has collapsed.
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Socialist Stance on Immigration

What is the proper gommie stance on immigration?

On one hand you have the neoliberal stance of open borders, on the other the /pol/tard stance of ethnostate with reverse immigration.

What is the socialist/communist stance on immigration? something in between? or something else entirely.
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Marxism is a supremacist movement

>supporting the belief that a particular group, especially one determined by race, religion, or sex, is superior and should therefore dominate society.

Marxism is not progressivism.Progressivism believes in a utilitarian happiness maximizing view through state intervention into a market economy. Marxism is not about happiness maximizing, or generosity, or pitying workers, racial minorities, etc. and "gifting" them benefits because of empathy by a bleeding heart for someone who pities the weak. Marxism is strength, it is about WORKING CLASS SUPREMACY and the revolutionary genesis of a new society, through whatever means necessary.

Dictatorship of the proletariat means dictatorship of the poor, dictatorship of the masses over the elites and petit bourgeois.

Even today people are too spooked by thinking communism is some souped up version of progressivism, where shit is about empathy and love. Yes, empathy is a normal part of being human and we should all be empathetic. BUT that is not what revolutionary communism is about. It's about workers seizing power by whatever means necessary and making no apology for it because ITS OUR TIME.

In your mind from now on, when you hear socialist or communist you should mentally substitute WORKERS SUPREMACY
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How many leftist image/textboards are there? Could there be a sort of coalition between them like iichan did for anyone that remembers? For those who weren't there in the late mid 2000s, it was an effort to have a bunch of niche boards with specific themes band together. They had a similar frames.html linking each other.

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So a reddit user released a map of reddit examining subreddit's relation's to each other via 176 million reddit comments. The creator goes into more detail as to how he did it in the comments.

This is a perfect opportunity to see the state of the left and right on Reddit. There are 4 Clear political clusters. Starting from the biggest and most important to the least important.

>Left Ideological Cluster:Forms A cup Shaped tightly knitted together cluster starting from Democrats and liberals at the top right then rotating down and Left we get various TDS subreddits and Liberal ones. Right at the bottom of the cup there are the anti Alt-right ones.Then going upwards and Leftwards again we get various Breadtube and Enough___Spam subreddits, Finally we reach r/Socialism r/Communism and Anarchism directly opposite to the liberal side of the bowl. Above that is a dense Organizational Leftist network, consisting of IWW and many other

Leftbowl view:>

I'll continue in the comments.
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State of the Site

is /leftypol/ growing? We seem to be averaging between 300 and 450 daily users most days
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Seaspiracy General

Just finished watching this and I think it does a decent job at blaming global capital on the destruction of fish and marine populations

I personally think it's a really good red pill to give to liberals on the topic.
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Rightoid: we need fewer voters


>Much of the discussion about proposed changes to voting laws backed by many Republicans and generally opposed by Democrats begs the question and simply asserts that having more people vote is, ceteris paribus, a good thing. Why should we believe that? Why shouldn’t we believe the opposite? That the republic would be better served by having fewer — but better — voters? Many Americans, being devout egalitarians, recoil from the very notion of better voters as a matter of rhetoric, even as they accept qualifications as a matter of fact.

>There would be more voters if we made it easier to vote, and there would be more doctors if we didn’t require a license to practice medicine. The fact that we believe unqualified doctors to be a public menace but act as though unqualified voters were just stars in the splendid constellation of democracy

>Progressives and populists like to blame lobbyists, special interests, “the Swamp,” insiders, “the Establishment,” vested interests, shadowy corporate titans, and sundry boogeymen for our current straits, but the fact is that voters got us into this mess. Maybe the answer isn’t more voters.

>One argument for encouraging bigger turnout is that if more eligible voters go to the polls then the outcome will more closely reflect what the average American voter wants. That sounds like a wonderful thing . . . if you haven’t met the average American voter. Voters — individually and in majorities — are as apt to be wrong about things as right about them, often vote from low motives such as bigotry and spite, and very often are contentedly ignorant.

TLDR: Raise the voting age to 30, don't let felons vote, require ID, etc. and generally make voting harder because most voters are ignorant plebs and don't know how to run shit

What does /leftypol/ think of this take?
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Hitler and the Nazi party were funded by Zionist bankers, according to Heinrich Brüning, who was a conservative christian Chancellor of the German Reich in the 1930's.
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The Great Reset = Fusion of Socialism and Capitalism

According to this article of the World Economic Forum, the ultimate goal of the Great Reset is to overcome the current capitalist system, into a new type of capitalism: Stakeholder Capitalism, which is the fusion of Socialism and Capitalism!
>1. Capitalism and socialism will need to merge
>Firstly, the slow death of capitalism does not equate to a resurgence of communism. However, rethinking capitalism, or giving capitalism a “Great Reset” as World Economic Forum Chairman Klaus Schwab has suggested, means that capitalism and socialism will need to merge to create a productive and inclusive economic and social model.

Are we heading towards a third-positionist future? Global Corporatism? Does it matter, if the cat is black or white?
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I’m an unironic divinialist-extraphysicist-quantumist-soulist…

The first step is the abolition of the physical laws, then the second is the full access to the quantum potential of everything for possibility the freedom of the matter, like with the techno-quantum purity and the quantum matter purity, the third one is the abolition of matter itself, where all matter become extramatter or better saying, materialized spiritual energy that can become non-materialized at will, and the last step is becoming full divine, in other words, having the full access to its divine potential and being able to control everything, such as the whole existence this one are.

Long live the soul… Death to hierarchy!
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My right wing friend sent me this

what do you make of it?
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Soviet Wars 1917-1923(31)

A million sides, constant changes of allies, a bunch of events - sort of the First World War in the South, in the Crimea and in the Urals, the latest fleet operations against the Germans and the Entente in the Baltic, literally Syria in the Ukraine, the Red Army attacking British tanks with bayonets near Arkhangelsk, the Wild West with Basmachi in Central Asia, Latin American partisanship in Siberia, White Genghis Khan is plotting something, White Czechs are fleeing from the Red Czechs with tsarist gold, finally the fight against anti-Soviet uprisings and simply hellish gang violence.

Red, White, Green, Black, Basmachi
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Neo-Hipsterism. Right-wing Hipsters

Having looked up the housing prices of a lot of rural southern places in the states, as well as the shifting social attitudes of many hipster types. It seems as if social conservatism is going to be the new hipster tendency, as the richer types move away from the cities, turning them into ghettos while essentially mimicking the good ol' southern attitudes as a way to differentiate themselves from the woke folk that they were in the 10's. We will see a revival of performative unwokeness and insincere Christianity in the 2020's. If you check out stupidpol and redscarepod you will already see the realignment happening, let alone the non-nominamlly leftist places on that hellsite.
And 4chan…that place seems to be entirely filled with suburban/rural white types that still haven't abandoned nor will they abandon the boomer /pol/ type of "rebellion"
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Balkanization of the US

Since 1945, the US strategy during has been to exploit the ethnic and cultural divides of its rivals, balkanizing them into smaller states which then by necessity need to form alliances/dependencies with larger states like the US.

>British Empire

> Proposed “Federated” ethnically cleansed Syria
>China, via Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. This is the reason the US will never leave Afghanistan.

This has worked amazingly well because the US’s enemies are always empires in the Old World, which are composed of multiple ethnicities divided along strong regional lines. The USSR inherited the Russian Empire, which included lots of places that resented Russia and who had centuries of their own separate culture, language, and culture.

The US empire is the strongest in world history because it is a settler colonial state. The entire native population was wiped out, replaced with an ethnically, linguistically, and culturally homogenous blob with few regional fault-lines. Yes, I know the Civil War happened. But even within the ethnic divisions in the US, there is a shared 'culture' and identity of sorts unlike any other empire in history.

If the US empire is ever to be broken, the only way to do this would be balkanization. A socialist revolution is basically a pipe dream in the US, so the best we could hope for is a few smaller nationalist secessionist movements to trigger a wave of separatism. Regional differences, while minor, do still exist and could form the basis for a lot of smaller states. Rightoids could get some kind of American Christian Nation, Texas could get its own nation, Cascadia, the Northeast, etc.
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What's with 4chan and "trannies"

Why is it their go-to boogeyman/retort to all dissenting opinion? Hell, why do liberals care so much about them? I don't think I have ever seen one in real life.
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News 4/8/21

Kannur DC calls all party meeting to end violence over murder of IUML worker
Kannur district Collector TV Subhash has called an all-party meeting on Thursday at 11 am after violence broke out in the district following the killing of an Indian Union Muslim League Worker (IUML) allegedly by Communist Party of India (Marxist) CPI(M) activists.

Donbass Escalation Would Be ‘Beginning of the End’ for Ukraine – Putin Aide
The outbreak of major hostilities in eastern Ukraine would mark “the beginning of the end” for Kiev, a top Kremlin official warned Thursday as alarm continues to grow over troop buildup in the region.“I support the assessments that also exist inside Ukraine that the beginning of hostilities is the beginning of the end of Ukraine,” President Vladimir Putin’s deputy chief of staff Dmitry Kozak said.

EU and UK pledge backing to Ukraine after Russian military buildup
The European Union and UK have pledged “unwavering” support for Ukraine’s government amid concerns of a military escalation in the east of the country or a possible new offensive against the Nato ally after recent Russian troop movements.

French military tests the robotic dog Spot in combat drill, Boston Dynamics tells media it had no idea
The pictures of the drill were shared earlier this week on Twitter by France’s foremost military school, the École Spéciale Militaire de Saint-Cyr in the country’s northwest. The tweet said the drill tested students’ awareness of the challenges of tomorrow, like robotization of the battlefield.

Violence must stop before someone dies: Irish FM laments scenes at riots in N. Ireland, says Dublin not to blame
Dublin has promised to play its part in bringing an end to the unrest sweeping across Northern Ireland, calling on the EU to use the flexibilities in the post-Brexit arrangement, before someone is killed in the violence. “These are scenes we haven’t seen in Northern Ireland for a very long time… This needs to stop before somebody is killed or seriously injured,” Irish Foreign Minister Simon Coveney told broadcaster RTE on Thursday.

Israel will not cooperate with ICC probe, government says
Israel will formally notify the International Criminal Court (ICC) that it will not cooperate with the Hague-based tribunal's probe into alleged war crimes committed in the Palestinian Territories, the Israeli government said on Thursday. After a meeting by senior Israeli officials, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office reiterated his government's position that the ICC has no authority to investigate Israelis.

ISIS Redux: The Central Syria Insurgency in March 2021
ISIS attacks increased significantly. March had the second most attacks and high quality* attacks since the start of the insurgency. While February’s decline in ISIS activity matched the pattern of the previous two years, this month’s surge came almost one month earlier than it did in 2020.

U.S. prepared to lift sanctions inconsistent with Iran nuclear deal
The United States is prepared to remove sanctions on Iran to resume compliance with the Iran nuclear deal, including those that are inconsistent with the 2015 pact, the U.S. State Department said on Wednesday, without providing details.

Peru: National Polls Forecast Low Turnout In Election Day
A survey by the Institute of Peruvian Studies (IEP) on Wednesday showed that the COVID-19 health crisis and the apathy felt by the people for the presidential elections could lead to a low turnout at the polls on April 11. "Peruvians have no favorite candidates among the 18 parties that are running for the elections," the IEP stated and informed there would be a technical tie among the front-runners.

Cuban medical brigade extends collaboration in Barbados
The Cuban medical brigade that has worked in Barbados for a year to fight Covid-19 will extend its services in that country, Cubaminrex reported on Thursday. At the request of Barbadian authorities, all 115 members of the Henry Reeve Contingent Specialized in Situations Disasters and Big Epidemics will continue working in that country until early October.
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Mass shootings

What causes mass shootings? Specifically in America, the world epicenter for it, and not ideologically motivated violence such as terrorism. The reason the media pushes–guns–always struck me as a half truth. The correlation is undeniable, the more guns you have around predictably the more they will be used. But a gun does not alone cause someone to want to murder innocent strangers. What about America's brutal society puts these people over the edge?

There seems to be an intersection of causes, psychological, cultural, and sociological, that are enabled by the availability of guns. The breakdown of a sense of national community, a culture which disposes of young men and leaves them in isolation, inattentiveness to warning signs.

However, a more detailed answer eludes me and blaming guns seems to be too politically convenient, like its attempting to coverup the societal decay which leads to troubled young men engaging in hyperviolence.
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In this talk: Libs discovering materialism

I start to think socialism is indeed an inevitable step of progress.
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US Public Debt

American conservatives always talk about the budget deficit and public debt. Back in 2008-2016, there was tons of concern over the deficit, but then Trump blew up the deficit even more, and now the Pandemic stimulus and potential infrastructure bills are going to increase it even more.

What are the legit long-term consequences of this? Politicians have been fear-mongering about this since the 1970s and so far not much has happened.
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What do you think of Nietzsche and his philosophy? He is often claimed by rightoids and fascists, but I think they are generally working with a serious misinterpretation of his work.
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Everybody here is concerned about the /pol/lacks and shit but it seems like a new enemy of the left has arrived, cryptocurrencies and the WSB GME thing as a whole have convinced millions of people that they can invest into the market in order to stick it to the man. It seems like this and not any bullshit that pol espouses is what will cause the final death kneel to the left as a whole. 40k lumpenized the generations before the Millennials and now Cryptocurrencies will help secure liberalism as the ideological head for a long while still for the young.
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Why Dont Leftists Support Ethno States?

It would seem to me that if your goal is building a socialist, tolerant and diverse society giving white racists a way to peacefully remove themselves from the electorate and live in a place where they cant harm or oppress minorities would be in your own interest from a utilitarian perspective.
The only alternative seems to be violent revolution/civil war which the left doesn't exactly have a great record of since the 1980s..
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What's a way to stop capital flight and prevent porky running with his money within western liberal democracies?
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What are your thoughts on the European Union?

I personally support the European Union, as it has the potential to become a counterweight to United States global hegemony. China is already performing that role, but, since we want to make the world as multipolar as possible, we should always support the ascendance of more global superpowers. That said, if the EU wants to get serious about challenging American hegemony and becoming a new superpower, I would advise them to do the following:
-Withdraw all member states from NATO
-Shut down all US military bases within EU borders
-Nullify or renegotiate all unequal treaties with the United States
-Withdraw from all US-led wars
-Establish a unified European military
-Annex all European lands not currently in the EU (diplomatically, of course)
-Have all member states adopt the Euro as their main currency
-Abolish the European Commission and European Council, and establish the European Parliament as the sole federal-level legislative body

I would also advise European leftists to act in a pan-European fashion, rather than just limiting themselves to their own specific countries. If you don't get the EU as a whole to adopt leftist policies, you'll end up in the same situation SYRIZA was during the Greek debt crisis. I think Yanis Varoufakis's DiEM25 movement is a good example for how European leftists should act. "Left-wing" Euroscepticism is an infantile disorder.

What are your thoughts?
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Simulating a planned economy

Any programmers here? I thought about simulating a population organizing resources for a while. Nothing serious, just doing it for fun. Anyone tried that before in their free time? Do you have any conceptual starting points? I will start:

Type: Person
Attributes: sex, age_range
That is to predict how much resources they themselves need and how much work they can produce. All based on averages.

Type: Resource
Attributes: quantity, state
Subtypes: metal, mineral, wood, food
The attribute "state" describes for example if the resource has been refined based on some procedure. The mentioned subtypes have further subtypes of course.

Type: Product
Attribute: kcal, components
Subtypes: electronics, furniture, dish
kcal is supposed to represent the average amount of work exerted with the most efficient available tools available to produce the product.
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Liberal revolutions

I define liberal revolutions as revolutions that seek out greater civil rights, civil liberties, democratic participation, economic justice, and other things without seeking to overturn the capitalist system. Some examples of liberal revolutions would be the French Revolution (1789), the Revolutions of 1848, the Mexican Revolution (1910), the Irish War of Independence (1919), the Algerian Revolution (1954), the Filipino People Power Revolution (1986), and the Arab Spring (2010). While they may not accomplish as much as socialist revolutions, they have often been successful at bringing down exceptionally oppressive governments. That said, are there times when socialists should support liberal revolutions? If so, when? If a liberal revolution came to my country (the United States), I would probably support it.
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Happy Thatcher's Dead day, lads
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Switching Sides for money

Would you change your alignment from pro-socialism to pro-capitalism if you turned into picrel or got rich? and if so how much money exactly?(USD$)
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The pipeline problem

In the mid to late 2010s to the early 2020s, on the anglophone internet there was a phenomenon known as the “alt right pipeline” which was a loose connection of conservative and far right internet “content creators” and posters who created a social media and discussion ecosystem which slowly radicalized many people online into becoming right wing terrorists. Calling it the alt right pipeline is a bit reductive, because it had multiple exit points. This pipeline could alternatively make someone annoying, but relatively nonviolent like an anti feminist sjw, OR an incel/far right mass shooter who uses an AR15 to mow down loads of women/jews/blacks/hispanics in walmart/etc. The ultimate culmination of this was the attacks at Christchurch, El Paso, and Charolettesville. However far from being restricted to Chans, it was replicated again with the capitol riots on Jan 6th, but with christian nationalist boomers instead of ethnonationalist zoomers.

We have often asked why the left can’t replicate this pipeline (without the stochastic terrorism part, obviously) and convert liberals into far leftists.

Can this be done? And if yes/no, why?
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Plans for organizing

What have you actually done for the workers' movement aside from poasting online, anon? What orgs are you a part of? Do you want to form one yourself? If so, why and how?
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News 4/5/21

Maoist Insurgents Kill 23 Indian Forces in Ambush, Officials Say
A large force of Indian security personnel had been carrying out a clearance operation in a densely forested area on the edges of the Bijapur district when they were ambushed by the insurgents on Saturday in a firefight that lasted four hours.

Northern Ireland clashes reflect loyalists' fear of marginalisation
A Sinn Féin funeral was the spark but loyalists in Northern Ireland have been throwing petrol bombs and burning cars partly because they fear political marginalisation. The union flag no longer flutters daily over Belfast city hall, a trade border separates the region from the rest of the UK and the police are allegedly beholden to Sinn Féin.

Palestinian election board approves candidate lists for May vote
President Mahmoud Abbas’s Fatah movement, which dominates the Palestinian Authority in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, is contesting the polls, as is Hamas, which has run the Israeli-blockaded Gaza Strip since 2007. Fatah is facing challenges from dissident factions including the Freedom list, led by Nasser al-Kidwa, a nephew of the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat.

Israel: Netanyahu corruption trial begins amid government formation talks
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's corruption trial began on Monday, as Israel's President Reuven Rivlin launched talks to determine which parties could form a new government following recent general elections. Netanyahu appeared in front of the Jerusalem District Court to hear opening arguments, in which the prosecution said he "illegitimately" used his office to advance his political interests.

Yemen: Little clarity on US vow to end aid to Saudi-led coalition
The Biden administration has offered few concrete details on its plan to end the United States’ support for “offensive” operations by a Saudi Arabia-led coalition in Yemen and “relevant” arms sales, telling Al Jazeera only that a review is continuing.

Kidnapping and extersion by Turkish occupation forces in Afrin continue
In occupied Afrin in Rojava, kidnappings and ransom extortions continue to happen on a daily basis. On 27 March, Rustem Elî (35), Emîr Cemal (25), Xelîl Emîr (27) and Behzad Osman (50) from the village of Dargirê in Afrin-Mabeta were kidnapped by mercenaries of the Syrian National Army (SNA). They are said to be held in a prison in Marate.

Five social leaders get assassinated every week in Colombia
In that period, 944 murders of people linked to those sectors (including human rights defenders) had been reported, the Forjando Futuros Foundation, the Inter-Church Commission for Justice and Peace, the Somos Defensores program, the Institute of Studies for Development and Peace and the Colombian Commission of Jurists reveal in the text.

Bolivia: Former Water Resources Minister Flees the Country
Pinckert, whose whereabouts are unknown, announced that she requested asylum because she considers herself a victim of political persecution. "I will return when the judicial system becomes impartial," she wrote in a letter addressed to her relatives in which she rejected the imprisonment of the coup-born regime leader Jeanine Añez.

Colombia: Massacres Climbed To 25 Over the Weekend
A group of armed men opened indiscriminate fire in the La Esmeralda neighborhood, killing four people and injuring three others. Quindio's Interior Secretary Jaime Perez indicated that the violent attack might be related to drug trafficking scuffles in the locality.

Ukraine to hold join military drills with NATO amid escalating tensions with Russia
Ukraine’s military announced Saturday that it will hold joint military drills with NATO troops later this year amid escalating violence with pro-Russian separatists in the eastern part of the country. The armed forces said in a statement on Facebook that the drills will be held with more than 1,000 military personnel from at least five NATO member states in a few months.
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Origins of Alunya

I want to know the history of Alunya and specifically how she was created and who was the first person who drew her? Some say it was Comrade King, but I would like to know what the people of leftypol recall
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When did chan culture die

When did traditional chan culture morph into moralfaggotry? did /pol/ do it? Is it just the general politicization of society?

Is this just a relic of the pre-2012 internet?
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What is the most idiotic thing you've heard a rightoid say/post?

Can be from real life or the web.
The dumbest I've heard so far:
>Big corporations in burgerland are communist
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Why does it seem like it's increasingly only possible to be a Berniebro to be welcomed into American society? They're really closing in on the narrative
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What happened to revleft?

So a bit of internet history, what happened to Revleft?

They seemed to have a really large user base and positioning as the radical left wing forum. Likewise they had some really interesting posters like Rafiq and the Albanian expert Ismail.

I would be really curious to know what happened.
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Escaping Censorship

The tech media monopolies have been ramping up attacks on independent news media ever since the US capital riots, but they have really escalated censorship the last few days. Grayzone story getting tagged by Twitter as "material that may have been obtained through hacking", Analysis.news getting a video about the lack of police presence during the riots flagged by Youtube for spreading misinformation about election fraud, and Consortium News getting a video taken down for talking all about voter suppression.




This is not a thread for discussion about what speech will look like after the revolution; this is about what we can do right now to help our allies escape censorship and keep public discourse open to our politics. How can we help each other?
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Annnnnd there goes our future. My state of Nevada is already being taken over by socialists. 1/2

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Not the heckin white farmerinos

Can someone give me sources untainted by eurocentrism or make an informed post on the history of South Africa/Zimbabwe, recent seizure of land and how exactly the far right rationalizes the myth of white genocide in those countries? It has become one of those odd talking points I hear relatively often nowadays.
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Post based trailer movies

Previously I went to search about some Russian movies, but accidentally yield a blessed trailer movie. The story is about the community fight back against the neoliberalism land grabbing/land acquisition schemes. So it's going to be my worth to watch list.

Well happy trailer-posting.
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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism

A grande richiesta e dopo un'inutile e penosa scissione, rieccoci.
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CPI-ML(L) on the Uyghurs situation

Indian maoists btfo (with things that the CCP admitted) all the terminally online war on terror with ideograms decoration deniers and no one told me about it ?
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Propaganda on a Budget

What the fuck is up with these "low-rent CNBC" eceleb clones like wendover productions, economics explained (literal austrian lolbert econ grad), Polymatter, etc. who seem to be making generic neolib glow tier propaganda over generic video clips. Usually its some really vague and unnecessarily long winded shit too, with them shilling audible or great courses or whatever the fuck at the end

It's always some nasally 19 year old's midwest accent too. Whenever I listen to polymatter or something I think of some kid that looks like Justin Bieber saying this shit.

Do they glow or are they just trying to cash in?

Second Thought is literally the only good youtube in this genre
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Documentary General

Post links to documentaries (pref YT), discuss documentaries
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Horror is inherently right wing?

Libs often argue that monsters are racist and sexist metaphors. To what extent is this true?

HP Lovecraft is an obvious one with his themes of monsters being non anglos and degeneration through interbreeding which are common tropes.

But I've also heard that Vampire novels were based on Victorian anglo fears of eastern european jewish migration, etc.

Its well known that social conservatives have a higher disgust/fear reaction than others and horror is based on showing precisely that.

Is this just radlib BS or does it have a point?

Are monsters in fiction just paranoid northern europeans ideas of races they never met?
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Looks vs racism

How much of /pol/tardism is just them not liking the way minorities look? I mean physically? I figure after years of print media/porn/etc. they've been raised to think the ideal of beauty is some Jenna Jameson looking chick, and they're too intellectually lazy to critically examine that and ALSO they are shallow enough to base their politics on aesthetics.

Also doesn't help that there's a nontrivial minority of "chudface" schlubby white right wing nerds whos ideas on women are more based on fantasy roleplay games than interaction with real women, let alone of other races of people or anyone outside their room in their upper middle class parents house in suburbia.

Do they really just want nationalism because they think only whites are good looking and therefore the end of whites is the end of beauty or something? Why they're obsessed with presentation and aesthetics and why they make their opponents look like "soibois/ugly fat sjw chick" over something like economic/trade policy or anything materialist.
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Defeating the US army on a shoe string budget and DIY technology

Everyone in here talks about how we need to do the revolution and why, us, communists, need to have a rifle by our side when the time comes and so on, all of this as an leftist argument in favour of gun control.
Of course, people object this statement saying that if you were to do the revolution, then your rifle will be useless regardless, as the goverment has an absurd offensive capacity: they have tanks, they have artillery, they have planes and boats, they have drones made specifically for kamikaze strikes and they have an experienced mercenary army behind them.
Obviously, the revolution will still have to happen, and this clash between the working class army and the professional army in which capitalist states get their foundations from. That counterargument holds no actual power, as any revolution, and more importantly speaking, the dissolution of capitalism and capitalist relations will have to be with violence, political power comes from the barrel of a gun, as it is said.
So, that's it. If you wanna dismantle capitalism, YOU WILL NEED TO DECLARE WAR ONTO THE CAPITALIST STATE. There's no other way around it, you need to beat the capitalist state with the rules they bring to the table, and the rules they bring to the table are those of Total War.
Because of this, it is necessary for us to develop ways to counteract and be able not only defensive war, but offensive one as well, we need to advance, not stay at place until they get bored of bombing us.

Firstly, is to say that I'm not american, I'm spanish, so I can't have a weapon by my side unless I want to be persecuted by law, but regardless of that, let's talk about this firstly.
Inspired by the Revolutionary French Army Thread and so on >>121269 , where people started talking about how we can replicate what the Revolutionary French Army did then (not literally, but talking about replicating how they bested the other european powers through innovation in their time and so on), this, we might add, that the european powers didn't have the power level that the US has right now, or any country for that matter, meanwhile the coalition armies had to bring in resources by horse cart and move all of it's armies by foot, modern armies can travel through a country in a breeze if they force themselves hard enough on their tanks and their paratroopers. Because of this, I ask the question: What is to be done against the US (or any other) army?

For this we can always look upon the examples of a technologically inferior foe winning against the superior one, be it defensively on the examples of both Vietnam and Afghanistan, or offensively, looking at how ISIS advanced through the desert against not only Syria, but their home country of Irak.
I will bring out the ISIS campaign here since it will be kinda similar to what a revolutionary war might be here in other countries. Of course, I'm not saying that ISIS is revolutionary, fucking not, I'm not an Italian communist for god's sake. On the ISIS war, they relied on that the population themselves gave the towns they inhabited to them, the population, part of it, was loyal to ISIS, and by this I mean they were loyal to the ideals that ISIS brought, this is, Radical Islam, fundamentalism, a return to the old good days…
On a revolutionary war, it will happen the same if it's done correctly and on fertile ground. To put an example, if ISIS had started it's campaign in, I dunno, Iran, it would have faced mayor problems:
>In Iran they're muslims, but they're shiite, not sunni.
>Iran has a strong and united goverment, both politically and militarilly.
>Iran doesn't have the living conditions of a war torn country.
Because of this, ISIS started their campaign of terror on Iraq, which:
<They relied on a numerous minority at the north of Iraq that was Sunni.
<They lived in abject poverty.
<The goverment doesn't represent them.
<The military was not strong because of corruption.
<The goverment was weak also because of corruption.
<They lived on a war torned country which changed goverment just a while ago, the goverment, aside from being weak, had no legitimacy because it was imposed from outside.
Because of this, our tactic should be made clear, start such revolutionary war and seize power where we have the most support for it, and then have these fifth columns everywhere to work for our side and to give us an advantage on the battlefield.

Getting into another topic, ISIS also had another advantage, and that was that we live in an interconnected world in which one can fly from France to Syria in about 4-6 hours or so, that meant that people that were loyal to the ISIS ideal but didn't live on Iraqi soil could just travel to Turkey and get smuggled to join ISIS. So, the international brigades are also a fact to have in mind.
At the same time, ISIS didn't really count with tanks, aside from seized ones, they used mostly, and were known for it, Toyotas, normal cars, you might have seen the same model walking through the street.

Even then, aside from talking from what has been seen already on modern warfare, we should also theorise on what weaponry we should develop, be it archaic but clever, that us on a revolutionary war could use, that's why I've titled this thread as "Defeating the US army with a shoe string budget and DIY technology". In this thread, we develop tactics and weaponry that, aside from being cheap and readily available for it's fabrication, it's also effective against capitalist armies.

>inb4 this is LARP thread.

<hurr durr I can't tolerate people having fun making theories on their heads.
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So how do you plan to solve racism as a problem? You think when your big revolution comes that this problem is just going to go *poof*?
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There is literally no reason for a US socialist not to vote for a socialist party instead of abstaining.
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The case for expropriation: Billionaires’ wealth surged 60 percent in first year of pandemic
>The newly released Forbes list reveals that in 2020, as COVID-19 was sweeping the world and killing millions, billionaire wealth skyrocketed as never before.


A third point can be added in that, as bad it is that those riches were extracted from the blood, sweat and tears of the working class and that it takes, at this stage, bailouts without limits to keep the whole contraption afloat, perhaps the most damning aspect of it is that every day the Capitalist system exists is one less day humanity has to reverse coarse and fully bloom as a species. In fact we seem to be devolving socially even as, on the surface, technology is moving us forward (it is not).

This aspect of Capitalism hit me again after the UFC's Francis Ngannou's victory in the heavyweight division match. He is one of Capitalism's (in it's neo-colonial guise) survivors. He was compelled to leave his native Cameroon and make the dangerous journey to Europe seeking a better life from the misery and likely early death that awaited him in his native country. He made it spectacularly (which of course the system never tires of promoting the rags-to-riches angle instead of his success coming despite the fact). But, I often wonder how many potential Einsteins, Picassos, Marxs, DuBois or even Michael Jacksons have been lost to humanity because they were unlucky to be born in a country ravaged by Capitalism (namely Western Imperialism) and never made it out like Ngannou. People whose abilities never had a chance to develop and see the light of day adding to humanity's development. Einstein himself was nearly lost had he not managed to escape the Nazis: Capitalism's worst filth.

To me, it is Capitalism's vilest crime against humanity that it robs us of so much human potential and really insults the Universe. For all we know, we may be the only intelligent species in the Universe and its only chance to understand itself. Left to its own devices, Capitalism may one day give the Universe the final slap across the face and leave humanity and our planet a heap of radioactive waste. We may not have souls, but if we did, for that final transgression, Capitalism would earn my eternal hatred and loathing.
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Is this what Sankara warning about?

So I stumble upon this movement about food wellness from fedbook. Well is Lift Black Voices part of the fed or not? I mean everyone need food security whoever they are.
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News 4/7/21

Iranian ship thought to be used as military base attacked, says Tehran
Officials in Tehran said on Wednesday that the MV Saviz had been targeted in the Red Sea, a day after media reports said the ship had suffered damage after being hit by limpet mines. Images broadcast by Iran’s semi-official Tasnim news agency showed parts of the ship on fire. Tasnim said an explosion had targeted the hull.

Kim says North Korea facing its ‘worst-ever situation’
The comments, reported by state media on Wednesday, came as experts warn Kim is facing perhaps his toughest moment as he approaches a decade in rule, with North Korea’s coronavirus lockdown unleashing further shock on its sanctions-battered economy.

Main opposition party against mining wins Greenland election
With all votes counted Wednesday, the left-leaning Community of the People party (Inuit Ataqatigiit) had secured 37% of the votes, entitling it to 12 seats in the Greenlandic national assembly, the 31-seat Inatsisartut. Its biggest rival, the ruling center-left Forward (Siumut) party took the the second spot with 29% of the votes, giving it 10 seats in the legislature.

Polisario Front slam France and Spain over independence referendum delay and demand seat at UN
THE Polisario Front accused France and Spain of impeding a referendum on independence for Western Sahara on Monday as the separatist group demanded a seat at the United Nations. Spokesman Ould Salek said that Western Sahara, which the UN classifies a “non-governing territory,” demands its rightful place among other world nations at a press conference in Algiers.

HPG guerrilla martyred in Mardin laid to rest
The mortal remains of İsmet Bilginç, who was martyred in an armed clash with Turkish troops in the countryside of the Mardin province on 30 March, were received by his family from the Forensic Medicine Morgue of the Mardin State Hospital.

Russia & China won’t create Eastern military bloc to rival NATO because exclusive clubs are ‘counter-productive,’ says FM Lavrov
Speaking at a press conference on Tuesday with his Indian counterpart, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told reporters that “Russian-Chinese relations have reached the best level in history.” However, he said, “these relations will not lead us to pursue the goal of creating an armed forces alliance.”

Ruble Slides on Ukraine Conflict Fears
The Russian ruble has slid to its lowest level against the dollar in five months as fears of a possible escalation of conflict in eastern Ukraine grow. The ruble has lost 2% against the U.S. dollar since the start of the week and is now trading at 77.7 against the currency — its lowest level since the U.S. election last November.

Bolivia: Ex-President Sanchez de Lozada Is Guilty of Massacre
A U.S. Federal Court upheld a ruling that forces ex-Bolivia's President Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada (1993-1997 & 2002-2003) and ex-Defense Minister Carlos Sanchez to pay compensation for "extrajudicial killings" in 2003.

Scottish Labour outlines plans for free meals for all school pupils during the summer holidays
SCOTTISH Labour has announced plans for free meals for all school pupils during the summer holidays through the creation of summer catch-up clubs. Party leader Anas Sarwar said the policy would be available to all pupils, potentially benefiting about 700,000 children currently enrolled in Scotland’s education system.

'Ecocide' movement pushes for a new international crime: Environmental destruction
A small but growing number of world leaders including Pope Francis and French President Emmanuel Macron have begun citing an offense they say poses a similar threat to humanity and remains beyond the reach of international criminal law: ecocide, or widespread destruction of the environment.
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Is proletarian revolution possible in the capitalist core?

So far, every successful proletarian revolution has occurred in poor countries. It seems that the standard of living is too high for most first worlders to think it is worthwhile to revolt against their governments. Only people living in desperate circumstances seem to do so. I mean, can you imagine the people in pic related being revolutionaries? A lot of leftypolers have pointed out that, in some first countries, by some metrics, living standards have declined. However, they do not seem to have declined anywhere near enough to trigger a revolution, and it seems unlikely that they will in the foreseeable future.

That said, do you think revolution is possible in the first world? If not, what other goal(s) should first world leftists pursue?
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"I want to break free!"

Well, not in the way as implied in that clip, tho. I think that when comparing the """freedom quotient""" of the Eastern Bloc to the Western Bloc's a lot is getting missed.

Let me give you an example:
>1985, Eastern Bloc
>You literally DON'T have the freedom to die of cancer – there's a whole set of bureaucratically organized system that is making sure that you get the proper treatment, at the very least elongating your life span for another 10 years.

>2020, Western Bloc

>Do you have health insurance? No? You die now, lol.

This, ultimately, brings out the MAIN DIFFERENCE between the Marxist understanding of "freedom," or at the very least its emphasis, as opposed to the "capitalist" one and its emphasis.

<Marxist "freedom":

<u have cancer?
<lemme fix it!

<u have no house?

<lemme give u one
(and so on.)

>Capitalist """freedom""":

>you enjoy some kind of abstract equality when faced with the capital letter LAW
>you are being fucked by Company X?
>you have the abstract RIGHT to hire a top lawyer (you can't afford it, lol) whom'st will defend your case

I mean, it's literally a joke. "LE CAPITALIST FREEDOM" is a fucking joke, and everything the Eastern Bloc had was WAAAY more just, holy shit.
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With Hawaii verging on UBI, and considering universal healthcare again, when do you suppose we will see a full socialist Hawaii (nationalized means of production and all)? And how can we further the push for this?
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The fate of the Red Movement in the event of a victory of the Central Powers?
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cockshott it a sham: effort post

So now that we were remembering old leftypol i would like to talk about a thread in the past, that happened right after oldBO purged everyone, and i would like to talk about the topic again, it is about this article.
used in this post
> for cockshott
< for smith
>> for marx


in it cockshott claims that later in life marx return to the smithian definition of productive labour, and gives a very convoluted proof it, lets see what he has to say:

>The theory of unproductive labour originates with the philosopher Adam Smith, who was very critical of the old feudal order in Scotland. One of the disadvantages of this order was the way, he claimed, that a large part of the population were employed as the servants or retainers of the aristocracy.

He begins here with a bit of history of the concept in smith, here he makes us aware that he knows why smith was compelled into creating the concept, although he later on shows that he can't see how these material conditions would affect the concept itself

>His two criteria for labour to be productive were:

>The labour must be employed out of capital not revenue.
>The labour must result in a persistent vendible product, something that lasts beyond the moment in which the labour is produced.
This definition of what smith believed is missleading or outright wrong, lets see what smith himself has to say about it

<There is one sort of labour which adds to the value of the subject upon which it is bestowed: there is another which has no such effect. The former, as it produces a value, may be called productive; the latter, unproductive labour. Thus the labour of a manufacturer adds, generally, to the value of the materials which he works upon, that of his own maintenance, and of his master’s profit. The labour of a menial servant, on the contrary, adds to the value of nothing. Though the manufacturer has his wages advanced to him by his master, he, in reality, costs him no expense, the value of those wages being generally restored, together with a profit, in the improved value of the subject upon which his labour is bestowed. But the maintenance of a menial servant never is restored. A man grows rich by employing a multitude of manufacturers: he grows poor, by maintaining a multitude of menial servants

Here we can see that productive labour is really about which labour adds value to a product, that labout which adds value is productive, the part about it being a commodity is not there, rather it is shown as a consecuence of the definition, because smith doesn't think that servants add value to anything. why does Smith think that? Well cockshott even outlines it in the introduction, because servants were not used to grow a capital back then, but rather for the personal service of the aristocracy. Additionally, The part about productive labour being exchanged for capital and not revenue is also secondary, and presented as a consecuence, because labourers producing value and therefore surplus value means by definition that they are employed from capital. Cockshott presenting this characteristic as primary is a confusion, and used to confuse marx later on. But lets keep reading cockshott.

>Marx weakened the definition so that only the first criterion was needed. Any work that was employed out of capital should, he said, be counted as productive

Marx does technically thinks that productive labourers are employed out of capital, but this presentation of his definition is missleading, once again, the main characteristic is whether or not labour adds value to a product, wether or not it is employed out of capital is only a consecuence. here is the quote

>>from the standpoint of capitalist production we may add the qualification that labour is productive is it directly valorizes capital. or creates surplus value. That is to say, it is productive if it is realised in a surplus-value without any equivalent for the worker, its creator

once again the main definition is whether it adds value or not, not whether or not it is employed out of capital, which is only secondary, but lets go back to cockshott

>However, he later seemed to have realised the inadequacy of this simple criterion, when he argued that labour employed by merchants could not count as productive, since buying and selling was not itself a productive activity (Capital III, Chapter XVII). In effect, he shifted back to accepting Smith’s rule that to count as productive labour had to be both physically productive and employed out of capital.

here we go, here comes the main point, since cockshott has confused the definition, to the point where he thinks the main criterion for being productive is whether or not labour is employed out of capital, then it appears to him that marx's definition implies that merchants should be productive, since cockshott think that merchants having money capital, and them having it grow means that their money works as capital socially. And since Marx doesn't think merchants are productive, therefore he must have gone back to smith's definition. In reality the labour of the merchant is a mixed bag, since the merchant still has wage workers who do labour related to conserving a product, and stopping it from damaging, which is productive and does add value, but they also do labour related to selling a product, which doesn't add value, because it really doesn't matter how much time a product has been sitting in a shelf somewhere, the consumer can always go to a store where the product is new, and thus the wage of the salesman gets priced out. But please don't hear me this is marx on the topic:

>>But without going into this at length here this much is plain from the start: If by a division of labour a function, unproductive in itself although a necessary element of reproduction, is transformed from an incidental occupation of many into an exclusive occupation of a few, into their special business, the nature of this function itself is not changed. One merchant (here considered a mere agent attending to the change of form of commodities, a mere buyer and seller) may by his operations shorten the time of purchase and sale for many producers. In such case he should be regarded as a machine which reduces useless expenditure of energy or helps to set production time free

one again, labour of merchants is not productive because they are not creating value by selling, thus by earning revenue through sale, you are taking part of the surplus value already created by the producer, which takes the surperficial form of capital, which cockshott uses to claim that they are employed out of capital, and thus are productive, confusing the matters.

>The question is sometimes confused by the notion that productive labourers are those who produce surplus value. Why should this confuse the matter?

>If confuses it if you think that all wage labourers in the private sector must, ipso facto, produce surplus value, irrespective of what they are doing.
>In some cases, it is pretty clear that you can be a waged employee and not produce surplus value. Bank employees do not produce value because the revenue source of the banks is not the sale of commodities, but the charging of interest on loans. The interest is a deduction from the revenues of either industrial capitalists for business loans, or workers for home loans. So the entire FIRE sector is employed, in Smith’s terms, out of revenue not capital. The employment is indirect, but it is nonetheless clear that it originates in revenue.
so he is saying that people think that some workers produce surplus value when they don't, agreed.

>A useful way to understand which employees can really produce surplus value is to use the reproduction schemes that Marx develops in Volume II of Capital.

>There he divides the whole economy into three sectors. Sector I produces means of production – that is to say machinery, industrial fuel and raw materials. Sector II produces actual consumer goods. He further breaks down Sector II into IIa which produces goods consumed by the working class, and sector IIb which meets the consumption needs of the capitalist class. He then constructs what amount to notional Tables of national accounts based on these sectors.
This is further confusion, reproduction schemas have nothing to do with productive labour, they are used to illustrate which parts of the total product go where, they don't even account for productive labour at all. If they were to account for that they would need to add it to each department, as all of them have unproductive workers, from the accountants in sector I, to salesmen in sector IIb and IIa, but lets see in which way he uses this unrelated thing.

>The important thing is that the output of sector I has to equal the total constant capital (c) used in all sectors, the output of sector IIa has to equal the total wages (v) used in all sectors, and the output of sector IIb has to equal the total profits (s) over all three sectors.

Here comes the confusion again, do rich people not consume basic services? do they not eat as workers do? since it is the case that rich people use some of the same products as workers do, it cannot be assumed that capital in sector IIa has to be equal to the variable capital, since capitalists consume a part of the product of that sector too, this is how marx consider reproduction schemas in the first place, where the capitalists have to spend a part of their surplus in sector IIa neecesarily, not like cockshott presents them. this is how he smuggles the claim in as an assumption, since he confused the definition of productive labour so that now it is about where the capitalist spends his revenue, instead of how he adds value; now he uses a the reproduction schemas, where all revenue is assumed to be spent outside one's own firm, and combines both, so that by his own confusion one department has to be unproductive. here is marx about it

>>a) Articles of consumption, which enter into the consumption of the working-class, and, to the extent that they are necessities of life — even if frequently different in quality and value from those of the labourers — also form a portion of the consumption of the capitalist class. For our purposes we may call this entire sub-division consumer necessities, regardless of whether such a product as tobacco is really a consumer necessity from the physiological point of view. It suffices that it is habitually such.

>>Now, assuming that the capitalists of IIa and IIb divide the expenditure of their revenue in the same proportion between necessities of life and luxuries — three-fifths for necessities for instance and two-fifths for luxuries — the capitalists of sub-class IIa will spend three-fifths of their revenue from surplus-value, amounting to 400s, or 240, for their own products, necessities of life, and two-fifths, or 160, for articles of luxury. The capitalists of sub-class IIb will divide their surplus-value of 100s in the same way: three-fifths, or 60, for necessities, and two-fifths, or 40, for articles of luxury, the latter being produced and exchanged in their own sub-class.
going back to cockshott

>His theory of relative surplus value is that a larger share of surplus value can only come about by reducing the labour time required to reproduce the real wage. Now assume that there is an improvement in labour productivity in sector IIa so that the same physical output can be produced with half the living labour. Real wages do not decline, but they fall in value. Let us assume that the redundant workers emigrate and wages for them no longer appear in the accounts. We then arrive at a second table.

>The effect of the change in the amount of living labour in sector IIa is that the rate of surplus value doubles, so clearly sector IIa can produce relative surplus value.
the rate of surplus value has nothing to do with productive labour, the division of your work day, between the part of your day neccesary to create your wage through labour, and the part where you create surplus is not affected by whether or not the capitalist that employs you hires hookers with his revenue, or whether he has ten accountants instead of three, saying so is nonsensical. So if there is a reduction in the rate of surplus value when a certain department gets more productive, this has no bearing in whether the labour is productive or not.
In the table itself, he begins by assuming that department IIb can produce surplus value, which by definition makes labour inside it, according to marx, and smith, productive, but according to what he later concludes, it is not productive, so cockshott esentially is destroying what it means to be a productive worker, with it no longer being a mere claim about your work, that you add or don't add value to the product, it becomes with him a mere moral category, that has nothing to do with surplus value, it turns it into a mere division between "good" and "bad" labour.
Additionally in the table he deals with luxury and neccesities as sectors IIa and IIb, and by trying to prove that sector IIb is not productive he intends to prove that services are not productive, but he hasn't realised, that there is services included in sector IIa, as they are considered neccesities for life, medical services is an example. Marx clearly states this, as neccesities is just a term to describe what culturally is considered neccesary for survival, regardless of whether it is a phisical product or not. So he effectively tries to prove that services are not productive, by trying to prove that luxuries are not productive, which does not really follow.
The tables themselves are a conjuring trick, he uses the fact that he assumes implicitly that capitalists only spend money in one department, to say that when the productivity of that department increases, therefore the capitalist spend less, which does not follow, as the surplus would really be redistributed, perhabs they would consume more luxuries than before, with the newly available money from the increase of productivity, growing that department more than before, or maybe they would spend it all in neccesities, and just get really fat and bloated, but the fact is that luxuries getting reduced in price doesn't mean that the capitalists extract less profit, it just means that they distribute it differently.
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>Eilenburg - On Tuesday, Interior Minister Roland Wöller (50, CDU) warned of an " explosive increase " in left-wing violence in Saxony. Today, Thursday, the escalation reached a new high. Disguised as police officers, a thugs detachment went to a young NPD politician at home in Eilenburg and smashed his legs.

>At around 5.25 a.m., the doorbell rang at the 30-year-old's door. Shortly afterwards, according to witness statements, the words "Open, police" and rams banging on the door could be heard.

>When Rzehaczek opened the door, he was pushed to the ground by five people dressed in black and masked with balaclavas. These are said to have worn vests with the inscription "Police".

>The JN functionary realized that these were not civil servants when the masked men hit his lower legs and ankles with a hammer. As TAG24 learned from legal circles, the strangers apparently purposefully smashed both ankles of the victim. They may have known that Rzehaczek was about to complete a driving instructor training course.

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Donbass War General 3, King Lear is a dumb dumb.

>Military build-up in the Donbass on both sides
>Putin has political difficulties at home to distract from
>Zelenskiy saying "for the first time Ukraine has a plan to deoccupy and reintegrate Crimea"
<He also made a decree which said that Ukraine will deoccupy Crimea and the LPR and the DPR in three months, no more than that.
>Biden saying of Putin "The price he’s going to pay, you’ll see shortly".
>Ukraine has stated that it will deport every "illegal occupier" out of Crimea.
>Putin had a secret meeting with Macron and Merkel, behind Ukraine's back.
>Russia is mobilizating itself, so much that farmers are having logistical problems because trains are pretty occupied getting military stuff from one part to the other.
>The top general of the US has talked with the top general of Ukraine.
>A lot more shit I'm lazy to write out, check the other generals.

War's on the horizon, war in the East. This is a thread for that.

First General:
Second General:
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Can somebody give me the breakdown on the Sandinistas I thought they were ousted from power but appertly they are back as the ruling party of Nicaragua what are their current polices and foreign policy.
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Entertaining Wikipedia Finds

Share Wiki articles or quotes that you found amusing, interesting, weird, etc with your comrades in this thread so that they can share in your amusement, interest, bewilderment, etc.

>Toller's government members were not always well-chosen. For instance, the Foreign Affairs Deputy Dr. Franz Lipp – who had been admitted several times to psychiatric hospitals – declared war on Württemberg and Switzerland over the Swiss refusal to lend 60 locomotives to the Republic.[14][13] He also claimed to be well acquainted with Pope Benedict XV[15] and informed Vladimir Lenin and the Pope by cable that the ousted former Minister-President Hoffmann had fled to Bamberg and taken the key to the ministry toilet with him.[16]
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china will not save you.

lately i've been seeing a lot of communists embrace the idea that nothing can be done for socialism except to wait and let some kind of theoretical chinese takeover, i feel like that might be counter productive and lazy as well as repeating the mistakes made by the communist parties of yesteryear that relied far too much on the foreign backing of the ussr, china won't help your movement in the long run however they will however damage it, china's out for china's own interests and everything else is up for debate, your movement will be seen not as some party to represent the people or socialism but instead as some kind of collaboration movement similar to the groups that joined in the government of vichy france or yeltsin in modern day russia. i'm not saying you have to be anti-china, just that having your rhetoric constantly be shilling for china and holding a disdain for everyone around you isn't a good mentality to have and china in all honesty won't help you or whatever movement you are promoting.
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Does anyone have a source on this?
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Problem: Communists unilaterally hate their countries of origin for being 'imperialist' (or for being comprador/not resisting capitalism, if they're still developing) and resent their fellow native workers for not joining the Party or being radical enough. Communists spend inordinate amounts of time defending the interests of workers in other countries, but remain isolated nationally and occasionally succumb to chauvinism.

Solution: Communists should move to organize workers OUTSIDE of their native countries. All US Communists should learn spanish/portuguese and emigrate south to organize latino workers. Likewise, latino Communists should emigrate north to organize Americans. European Communists should emigrate to Africa and the Middle East, and African/Middle Eastern Communists should emigrate to Europe.

Westerners will feel much more at home among the workers they're ostensibly defending against imperialism, while developing world Communists will have lots more resources and less repression than in their native lands. Plus a shit-ton of internationalism will result as everyone learns each others' languages and forms bonds across cultures and national borders.
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Why do western whites consistently side with race and nation spooks over their own class?

Was reading 4chan for a few hours, was really wondering why these people and so many others like them (largely people of Euro descent) have chosen to be enemies of the working class and communism basically forever. Most of these people would choose to die opposing liberation of the working class. But why? Why are so many whites enamored by private capital? Why are they so completely captivated by the spell of the bourgeoisie? When you see how they feel about non-white proles, their feelings are like listening to little boys explain why girls are “icky”. That’s it, they cuck themselves out to capitalists because they just irrationally hate other proles that look different from themselves?

Why are whites in the Western countries so willing to betray the rest of the proletariat for so little, basically nothing, in return?
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>TFW the US will be able to consistently tank crisises because they can just important labor from other countries to keep the age inflation rate down.
>TFW the US is still loved by everyone and everyone believes everything they say.
>TFW everyone in the end kneels down to the eagle.
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On The "Permanent Revolution"

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A SocDem on social media told me the Socialist Party of Portugal is implementing socialism in Portugal. Is this true?
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PLA Maj. Gen. Qiao Liang on the U.$. pirate empire

(Ret.) Maj. Gen. Qiao Liang (乔良) is a Chinese military officers and theorist who gave an interesting speech from several years explaining, in his view, what the U.S. empire is and how it works – essentially characterizing the U.S. as a piratical finance empire that regularly launches wars and creates crises around the world in a sinister balancing act to force dollars to return back into its economy to compensate for the deflationary effects of exporting dollars (needed to control inflation). U.S. capital also profits from this cycle, as assets in the crashed economies of the world can then be bought cheaply.

I think leftypol would find it interesting because Qiao is very brutal and straightforward about his judgements, and there was a link to this in the main China general thread, but that moves very fast. I've bulletpointed some of the main takeaways and share them here.

Here's a link to the translated speech:

For more Qiao Liang, I'd recommend running his bio at Baidu through Google Translate:


+ Critical to U.S. hegemony is the role of the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency – important for both world capital markets, commodity flows and energy – and backed solely by U.S. government credit since 1971, when the U.S. moved off the gold standard to avoid being bankrupted by the Vietnam War.

+ This new arrangement allows the U.S. to profit from the whole world.

+ "Without the restriction of gold, the U.S. can print dollars at will. If they keep a large amount of dollars inside the U.S., it will certainly create inflation. If they export dollars to the world, the whole world is helping the U.S. to deal with its inflation."

+ The U.S. shifts back and forth between weak-and-strong dollar cycles. When the U.S. is exporting a lot of dollars, it doesn't have much money, and if it continues to print money, the dollar will keep devaluating, which is bad for the U.S. so the U.S. tries to balance this.

+ One way it does this is by issuing debt (Treasury bonds), essentially bringing money from the future forward into the present with one hand, while printing money with the other. Print money to make money. This financial economy is much easier than investing in the real (industry-based) economy.

+ The U.S. has become a "hollow state" without much production. "Today's US GDP has reached $18 trillion, but the real economy contribution to GDP does not exceed $5 trillion—most of the rest is created by the virtual economy."

>Case study: Argentina and the Falklands War

+ In the 1970s, the U.S. exported a lot of dollars to Latin America, then cut off the spigot, causing Latin American economies to begin to buckle and political crises to ensue. In Argentina, military junta leader Galtieri settled on war, and asked Reagan for approval: the response was that the U.S. would stay neutral, interpreted as a go-ahead signal.

+ Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands, which Reagan condemned and provided material support for the British. In other words, the Americans saw Galtieri's tango-dancing ass coming from a mile away and essentially shook him down for every penny.

+ The war causes investor capital to leave Latin America and return back to the United States. Fed raises interest rates to raise the cost of borrowing, balancing for the returning dollars. U.S. economy booms and Reagan wins re-election in a landslide, and then American firms begin buying up Latin American assets at firesale prices.

+ Repeat this for other crises and wars the U.S. has been involved in, or helped instigate, over the past 40 years. "Why did Americans have to do it? Often one looks at issue from a geopolitical perspective, rather than from the perspective of capital."

>Fast forward to now:

+ "[The U.S.] uses the money earned to fleece the world, and now this is the only way Americans can live. Or we call it the American way of life. The approach is that the United States requires the return of a lot of capital to support the daily lives of Americans and the U.S. economy. Those blocking capital returns to the U.S. are the enemy of the United States. We must understand this to think about it clearly."

+ The Ukraine coup was instigated by the U.S. to scare investors into moving capital out of Europe – roughly $1 trillion left but this did not go according to plan as much of the money went to Hong Kong as the U.S. recovery was not so great, and China's growth was faster.

+ Surprise: The U.S. helped instigate the Hong Kong protests as a way of then forcing that money out of Hong Kong. "Americans need to create a regional crisis aimed at China, so the capital stuck in Hong Kong will be withdrawn from China in favor of the American economy."

+ The U.S. can't raise interest rates until the water boils: until there's a big enough crisis to squeeze capital back into the U.S. economy. The pirate needs his booty. This seems like a plausible explanation for why we're seeing the U.S. escalate in all directions right now hoping something boils over into a war or crisis.

+ But if China, Russia, Iran and others find a way to jam / interrupt the U.S. recycling system, undermining U.S. dollar hegemony, does that mean the U.S. will go to war to save its own empire? (I believe China is preparing for this possibility.)


+ Qiao Liang doesn't underestimate the U.S. and a recent interview that the U.S. is not a "paper tiger" but a "'real tiger' that kills people." His advice to Chinese is to be low-key and cautious. "This impulsive way of decision making based on determination or confidence (more of a spur-of-the-moment) without regard for self or external constraints is misconstrued as patriotism, which is actually harmful to the country." He also says not to trust Americans: "The core strategy of Imperial America never changes. 'Make America Great Again' isn't just Trump’s personal idea. Rather, it reflects America's national ideology."

+ The U.S. is going to lose anyways though and that will lead to the downfall of capitalism and its replacement by socialism. "Last year I talked about this issue at the Global Times forum. I said that in choosing China as its rival, America chose the wrong opponent and the wrong direction. Because in the future, the real challenge to the United States is not China; it is the United States itself, and the United States will bury itself. Because it does not realize that a great era is ending, the United States will fall with time because financial capitalism has been brought to the highest stage. On the one hand, through the virtual economy, the United States has already eaten up all the profits of capitalism. On the other hand, through scientific and technological innovation – of which it is proudly is a world leader – the Internet, big data, and the cloud are pushed to the extreme will eventually bury the United States, as the representatives of the most important opponent of financial capitalism. [That is, the internet and the cloud will gain a life of their own and oppose the government of the U.S.]."

+ "On last year's 'double 11' [November 11, Chinese Valentine day], online shopping reached 50.7 billion yuan in a day for Alibaba's Taobao. Over the three days after the Thanksgiving holiday, U.S. online and on-the-ground store sales had a total equivalent to 40.7 billion yuan, less than Alibaba sales in one day. And China was not even counting Netease, Tencent, Jingdong, or revenue from malls. This means that a new era has already arrived, while the American reaction is still slow. Alibaba deals were all made directly with Alipay. What does direct pay mean? It means that the currency is already out of the transaction stage, and the American leadership is built on the dollar. What is the dollar? It is a currency. In the future, when we no longer use money, traditional money settlement will become useless. When money becomes useless, will an empire built on money still exist? That is the question to be considered by the Americans."
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Can we discuss Gustavo Bueno here? What do you think of him? Does he succesfully correct the idealist bits of Marx? I'm not an expert on Bueno, but some Materialismo filosófico (philosophical materialism) threads in here would be kino.
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News 4/6/21

Vietnam elects new prime minister as Phuc becomes president
Mr Phuc, who was widely praised for the country’s successful handling of the coronavirus pandemic, became the first prime minister to be elected as president, according to the National Assembly. Communist Party general secretary Nguyen Phu Trong had been serving as president after the previous leader, Tran Dai Quang, died in office in 2018.

Maoists issue statement, say their fight not against security forces
The statement claimed that 28 Maoists have been killed in the last four months across the country and they have been able “to kill or injure nearly 100 policemen” during the same time. It cautioned Maoists over the newer technology being used by the state and urged them to be cautious while engaging with it. The Maoists have also called for a nationwide bandh on April 26 in support of farmers’ protest against three farm laws passed in September.

Czech Communists vote to withdraw support for PM Babis's government
Even if Communist lawmakers support any future vote of no-confidence, the coalition – comprising Babis’s ANO party and the Social Democrats – might still survive as opposition parties have spoken against toppling it so near to an election.

Maoist Centre strips four ministers who have sided with Oli of party membership
“Maoist Centre has registered its decision at the Parliament secretariat and the decision will be informed at the meeting of the Parliament,” a secretary of the Federal Parliament told the Post on condition of anonymity. “Once the Speaker informs the Parliament about the decision they will be relieved of their position as lawmakers.”

Israeli forces kill Palestinian man at West Bank flying checkpoint
Israeli forces shot and killed a Palestinian man and injured his wife in the early hours of Tuesday morning as the pair were on their way home to their village of Biddu, northwest of Jerusalem in the occupied West Bank. Osama Mansour, 42, and his wife Sumayya, 35, were on their way home around 2:30am when they were stopped at a flying checkpoint outside the neighbouring village al-Jib, where Israeli soldiers were conducting a search and arrest operation.

Iran hails ‘constructive’ nuclear deal talks but dismisses offer of $1bn asset release to halt uranium enrichment
Iran has rejected US proposals to suspend its 20% uranium enrichment in return for unfreezing $1 billion of its assets, Tehran’s chief negotiator has said, after a first round of talks to reinstate the 2015 nuclear deal. Negotiator Abbas Araghchi, who is also Iran’s deputy foreign minister, revealed the development after negotiations in Vienna on Tuesday, which he said were “constructive,” according to Iranian state-run news network Press TV.

Municipality of Brazil asks Bolivia to help with Covid-19 tests
Authorities from the municipality of Guajara-Mirim, Brazil, in the state of Rondonia, asked their peers in Guayaramerin, Bolivia, to help their citizens access Covid-19 detection tests, as per reports of an official source.

France investigates secret restaurants for Paris elite
Champagne, lobster and no masks: That’s what a French TV documentary says is on the menu at one of multiple high-end “clandestine restaurants” catering to the Paris elite, in violation of nationwide pandemic restrictions. What’s even more shocking to the newly confined French public — and exhausted medical staff — is that one organizer claimed government ministers are among those who attend.

Rioters hurl PETROL BOMBS at police trucks, set roadblock amid post-Brexit unrest in Northern Ireland (VIDEO)
People are also outraged that authorities declined to prosecute politicians from the pro-EU republican Sinn Fein party for attending the funeral of Bobby Storey, a former Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) fighter. The event drew around 2,000 people in Belfast last June, despite the fact a maximum of 30 were allowed to attend funerals under Covid-19 regulations.

North Korea says it won’t participate in Tokyo Olympics
North Korea became the first country to drop out of the Tokyo Olympics because of coronavirus fears, a decision that underscores the challenges facing Japan as it struggles to stage a global sporting event amid a raging pandemic.
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Any anarchist comrades? This is my first time on /leftypol/
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>TFW after the coronavirus shit is over, the US will look stronger than ever before.
>Biden will placate the libs
>The right will become more radicalized while the left will lose it's edge.
>The whole world will kneel to the US.
>China will have an economic crash
Our prospects are looking grim.
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Thirdworldism thread

First world 'workers' aren't proletariat they're labour aristocrats. Most of them are in unproductive 'service' jobs while most of what they consume is created in the global south. They consume more than they produce, their standards of living would go down with worldwide communism. So their class interest lies with imperialism and they cannot be organized by communists. Revolution in the global north is impossible and reformism in favour of the labour aristocratic parasites only strengthens imperialism. Only in the third world revolution is possible and the first world """worker""" parasites are our direct enemies.
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PMCs are taking over

It's common knowledge that "the middle class is shrinking" but the difference is where they are going. While some people leaving the middle class are becoming poor, the greater majority are actually experiencing UPWARD social mobility, joining the upper middle class with a petit bourgois attitude being instilled by nontrivial retirement savings tied to the stock market. In the US at least (and probably true in most core/developed nations as well), the PMC/Labour Aristocrat/Upper middle class is GROWING. Around 30% of the US population now makes a 6 figure salary which makes them extremely wealthy by both global and even US standards.

How does this square with an immiseration thesis based critique of capitalism? Are these just the imperial spoils of unequal exchange? Gains based on technology?
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The chumps who think they can or should turn critique of liberal identity politics into Red recruitment of 4chan should probably just revive the scare story about Lenin nationalizing/redistributing the country's wife supply.
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Anarchists or slightly libertarian socialist thread

Not a copy of the anarchist generals just a one where anarchist just talk (this thread is going to get a lot of sewerposting) their ideas and answer question that are probably not about sewers.
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

Volume 4: Finally some actual riots edition

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, jungle NPA or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us! Kiwis are welcome! South Asia can joined too I guess.

Last threads
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Is it even possible by this point to diminish the casual domination of Anti-Communism

I think often times when people discuss the implacability of Capitalism and the lack of "revolution" for the last 20-40 years they have a tendency to obsess over the next capitalist calamity, the next market failure, pandemic, world war, etc., anything that to their mind would be an opportunity to shake capitalist liberalism enough to let some kind of great red enlightenment grip most people. The given assumption being that when Capital is revealed for the 500th time to be a monstrous entity, that the majority of workers will be become some variety of leftist.

What I'm curious about is how communists intend to either destroy or get around the commonly held perception that "commies killed gorillions and were bad at basic econ, leading to foodn'ts." Communists are correct when they point out how Capitalism's autistic shitwaves (2008, 1929, etc.) create waves of ideological changes in people who are differently affected by said shitwave. The issue is that in previous examples of this happening like the 1929 market crash occurred before there was a deeply ingrained, constantly maintenanced, bureaucracy of historical revisionism with anything that concerned Communism. Sure there was anti-communist books and propaganda then, but nothing as developed as the last 60 years of slander. How different spheres of the left reacted to this bureaucracy likely contributes to modern stagnation of Socialist movements, insofar as every party, union, etc. even social democrats have to formulate which pieces of cold war arguments that they accept, reject, or something they agreed happened but not like the anti-communists claimed they did, blah blah blah. Left spaces on the internet also respond to this in different ways, /leftypol/ naturally laughs at and refuse to engage the frequent "commie did bad" post that pop up (likely because of the chan-style nature of /leftypol/ and because of /pol/ boogeyman that lingers from constant shitty raids), Stupidpol accepts generally the narratives about the USSR and China, and often complains of "tankies" which they malign for their social progressivism. Regardless, any and all discussion on "the left" will eventually reach a point of discussing X failure, Y atrocity, Z authoritarianism, and thus spreads the curse of the Doomer and blackpills all around.

A response I often hear is that by showing graphs, using facts and logic, and by demonstrating the nolstagia for Socialism that exists in places like Russia, then the propaganda can be circumvented. I suppose my main issue is that all of this nolstagia has a timeframe, and will likely disappear with those who remember the Soviet Union fondly, and western liberals will always manage to contort their brains into thinking "well they're obviously just nolstagic about being young and stronger, not actually about X nation." I'm mostly a booklet, so I'm curious /leftypol/, what is to be done about the infrastructure of anti-communism, how does one respond to someone that looks at you like you're a holocaust denier for linking them something about how the Victims of Communism relies on absurd citations or how Adrian Zenz is a proven liar?
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Socialist Revolution in the USA when?

This year’s annual survey by the anticommunist Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, conducted by leading pollster firm YouGov, found an immense increase in support for socialism over the last year, particularly among those between the ages of 16 and 39.

>Within the Gen Z group (ages 16-23), support for socialism increased nearly TEN percentage points over the course of a single year: from 40 percent in 2019 to 49 percent when this poll was taken in September 2020.

>Looking at the entire population, support for capitalism declined from 58 percent in 2019 to 55 percent in 2020, while support for socialism among all Americans increased from 36 percent in 2019 to 40 percent in 2020.
>60 percent of Millennials (age 24-39) support a “complete change of our economic system away from capitalism,” and 57 percent of Gen Z does as well: increases of 8 and 14 percentage points, respectively, from just last year.
>Thirty percent of Gen Z has a favorable view of Marxism, and 27 percent of Millennials.

>SOURCE:The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation (VOC) today released its fifth Annual Report on U.S. Attitudes Toward Socialism, Communism, and Collectivism. The report, polled by internationally recognized research and data firm YouGov, synthesizes data from 2,100 representative U.S. respondents ages 16 and older, and the margin of error is plus or minus 2.32%

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Snowpiercer: The most redpilled film ever?

WARNING: Spoilers for the 2013 movie "Snowpiercer" ahead.

The film is a science-fiction drama, based on a 1982 graphic novel called Le Transperceneige. It is set in a near future where, following climate catastrophe, the world has entered a new ice age. The survivors are stuck on a massive train, which is orbiting round and round the now ice-clad planet. The basic premise here is clearly ridiculous, but it serves a purpose – as we shall see.

By the year 2031, the train has become divided along class lines: the rich few are lording it up at the front, whereas the poor masses are stuck at the back, getting by under terrible conditions, and facing the constant harassment of the train’s armed guards.

Everybody talks about the train’s owner Wilford (Harris), but no-one has ever seen him – intentional shades of Wizard of Oz here. However, everybody knows his ruthless henchwoman, Minister Mason, played superbly by Swinton.

The revolutionaries, headed by Curtis (Evans), set to work organising a revolt to capture Mason and bring about transformational change. After realising that the ‘armed bodies of men’ actually have no ammunition to use against any uprising, the battle is on.

It soon becomes clear that the capitalists’ hold over the train is based on lies. But also that they may have a terrible hidden plan, and are intending to use the revolt to put it into effect.

This film works well as both a sci-fi action film, with a constant flow of fight sequences, twists and double-crosses, which will be familiar to fans of such films; and also as a thinly-veiled political assault on the ruling elite.

THIS MOVIE IS 100% MARXIST. the train has class divisions that are so explicitly marxist in their representation, i have trouble seeing how it could be interpreted as anything else.

think about the scene where chris evans is talking about the cannibalism. when they first board the train they're competing for food–literally killing each other. then the elders step in and start sharing their own body parts. this scene is also explicitly anti-capitalist.

finally, the train itself–it represents capitalism, hurtling forward on a never-ending quest for "growth" with no destination in mind. since the fall of the soviet union, society accepted that capitalism, while not ideal, is (supposedly) the only feasible way. there are no alternatives–in other words, you can't go outside the train. but, that's the point of the film and its ending–you can go outside the train. not only that, but to escape the structure of the train (which has inequality designed into it–think about the water, which the rich drink first and then is repurposed again into water for the back of the train. or the necessity of child labor to keep it running) you have to blow it up. taking over the train isn't enough. and when they get out, they see the polar bear–in other words, there is life outside the train; there are alternatives.
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Has entryism ever worked?

>Chinese communists do entryism in the KMT
>get purged and massacred

>British socialists do entryism in the Labour Party

>get purged

>American succdems do entryism in the Democratic Party

>accomplish nothing

Why do people keep trying this? Is there a single instance of entryism being a successful strategy at any point in history?
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Let's clear out what fascism is.

Fascism has been conceived in Italy in year 1919, although some of its hallmarks have been already present during the first world war. Since the inception of the fascist movement and till the end of 1920 italian entrepreneurs and landlords could not oppose the revolutionary movement openly, this is why during this period fascism didn't play a huge role in their struggle against workers and peasants. Fascists only began to surge after the fall of 1920 when the movement for the takeover of factories and plants ended in failure. Thanks to the complete support of the government, military, police, courts of law and, most importantly, big businessmen and landlords fascists have managed to deploy their terror. Liberals, enamored by the terrorist campaign against the workers and peasants, have made haste to introduce fascists to big politics, and after that to give complete power to Mussolini.
During the long period of its reign, Italian Fascism has made its way from the politics of classic liberalism to an open terroristic dictatorship. In struggle for its existence, this regime didn't shy away from any left-wing rhetoric or any socialist slogans. Dr. Goebbels did not have to invent anything new. Undoubtedly, Italian Fascism and corporatism are pure state capitalism, but the "state" part does not mean "in the interests of the state or the society". It means instead, "with the help of state apparatus". Who was the main beneficiary under the fascist regime? Of course, it was the italian oligarchs. And indeed, as the corporatist system was being built it was becoming clear that no "revolution" in relations between labour and capital has occurred. No social justice has been achieved. Fascists have never had it in their mind to encroach upon private property and other features of capitalist economy. And still, the corporatist system has introduced something new. An ordinary capitalist state is founded on formal recognition of independent labour unions and right to strike. Corporatist state then is founded on violent crackdown on independent workers' organisations and a complete ban on strikes. Class solidarity in fascist terms is an absolutization of business interests and enslavement of workers that in its turn lead to degradation, destruction and war. That is not surprising for if the state stops containg the entrepreneurs' appetites then sooner or later the plundering of population reaches such a ludicrous scope that no terror apparatus will be able to handle the public discontent. The only options left will be either the external war or the internal war. Italy has got both at the same time.
German fascists followed precisely in the footsteps of Mussolini. Hitlerite nazism is also fascism, the exact same violent subjugation of workers in the interests of business, exact same devourment of small business by big business and the exact same domination of oligarchs in the economy. It is tempting to compare fascism to what is happening today, but one must handle it with great carefulness. Despite the fact that many countries are conducting repressive policies in the interests of oligarchs, they are unlikely to be fascist. Fascism is, first of all, an open and unpunished terror against the laborers, and only then we can continue to define it.
In general, all the misconceptions around fascism are bound to an incorrect approach to the study of it. Instead of tracking the funding of fascists until they came to power, instead of looking up who and how earned and benefitted the most during the reign of fascism, most researchers of fascism are studying its ideology. That is, they estimate fascism based on what fascists tell you about themselves. But it's the same as judging the state of the modern USA based on the words of Tucker Carlson. The ideology of fascism on itself is an amalgamation of meaningless drivel protected by violence. But in the depths of this drivel and this violence there is a coherent system. Behind the backs of these loud blowhards with delusions of grandeur, troublemakers and social demagogues stand a very certain people with money who then give them money with very certain aims. And they are very cold-blooded and sensible. Where there is talk of investments there is no room for the fantastical ideology of fascism.
Moreso, in reality a theory of fascism as some sort of a consistent worldview simply does not exist. Fascist ideology is a surrogate made from the most popular words and slogans in this very moment. They will tell you anything so long as they'll make you believe them. They'll call themselves liberals, anti-capitalists, progressives, conservatives, communists, anti-socialists, revolutionaries and patriots. Whoever you want to be, that fascists shall make themselves appear. But this mimicry, ambiguity and deceitfulness of fascism is not accidental. It is inherent to it, just like to any other pro-business party. All of them would like to appear as friends of the People, and all of them only concerned with their money. Fascists parties differ from common parties only in their unique methods, practices of achieving the same ends that stand before such parties as "United Russia", Democratic and Republican Party of the United States, Conservatives in Great Britain, Christian Democratic Union of Germany and so on. These aims are very easy to describe. They are the increase in profits of their respective businessmen clique. And fascists are no exception. While the October Revolution has ushered in a new age for the world, that has introduced changes on the scale nether hitherto seen in the history of humankind, fascism has given the world nothing, and it cannot give. For fascism is the rot, and death.
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Lovecraftian Marxism

What are the odds that Capital is effectively an eldritch horror, an egregor, whose form is the transformation of the living world into lifeless commodities, and whose name is Death, whose future is the Apocalypse?
Is Capital the demiurge borne of human social relations?
With the emergence of the Sixth Mass Extinction in Earth’s history, can Capital be known as the nuclear chaos at the center of human social organization that uses its twisting, split forms to emerge as did the asteroid that emerged from the infinite black to destroy that world of the Cretaceous?

Is life a cosmic horror story, black pill me, Leftypol
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Why are imageboards filled with so many religious fanatics and conservatives these days?
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Beardtube growing

Post links to good and classpilled left wing youtube, podcasts, etc. no radlibs, grifters, and breadtube liberals
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Marx failed to consider

have you thought of that gommie?
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150 years since the Paris Commune
>On March 18, 1871, the armed working class districts of Paris rose up and established the first workers state in world history, the Paris Commune.

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Tell me that he and his secret daughters will repeat the fate of Nicholas 2. Please. Someone must answer for the genocide of the Russians and the Ryazan sugar.
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having visited redscare there seems to be a continueing opinion about a "conservative backlash" and shit. Is this true?
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what are the japanese left wing online communities like ?
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Youtube Embed thumbnails are now back!

Thank you to the glorious tech team for creating this solution of caching the thumbnails locally! This is a good balance between privacy and utility, as users of the site are now able to see the thumbnail of the video without any of your data being sent to Youtube. I hope this satisfies those people who were unhappy with the removal of Youtube embeds and provides security for those users that value their digital independence.

Here's to leftypol.org 's continued progress!
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You wake up and there is no more imperialism, but no further immediate changes to the world's political, social, and economic systems are made. All foreign-owned property in the Global South is brought under domestic ownership (either private, cooperative, or state ownership), all foreign interventions in civil conflicts are cancelled, all coup efforts are cancelled, all sanctions are scrapped, and all supranational organizations that favor rich countries are reorganized to provide a fairer balance between the interest of rich countries and poor countries. What changes would we expect to see, both in rich countries and in poor countries? Would the economies of rich countries collapse? Would the economies of poor countries experience unprecedented growth? Or would something else happen?
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Redpill me on gibz

I need some help. When it comes to unemployment, and welfare and things of the sorts all you ever here is /pol and other conservatards say shit like "Goshdarn naggers, wimenz and non-whites don't work and get all muh hard earned monez." But, is any of that true? And how much does it matter if the govt is pissing away money and resources on far more frivolous shit that reactionaries are eager to support. Last I remember, white americans are actually the bulk of welfare recipients, which I told a pol tard once and they replied per capita. Which, I don't see what difference that makes. Also as black dude in my thirties I've worked my whole adult like, often a lot harder than other people and witnessed plenty of non-whites out pacing and out doing white americans.
>in b4 idpol.
Lets please not be weak and pathetic cowards here. I'm just looking for some answers is all.
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Ussr and anti Semitism

Lately on tik tok (i downloaded it after pressure for my sister I am not that Gen z) there is a heavy discussion on whether soviet union was oppressive or even genocidal against Jewish people, now of course i take no claims like that seriously but i am asking here for takes on the issue.
I know the eastern block had antisemitism problems (Poland) but i don't think it spread to the ussr outside of anti religious sentiment
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The neoluddite tendencies kind of make me want to hide my general interests in various sorts of scientific technologies. Whenever I talk about 3d printing, hydroponics, or shit even just old tech some zoomer always comes in to tell me I'm cringe and that we need to "return to monkee"
This shit is so old.
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What's a good Marxist explanation of how finance and financialization work?
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How do western communists cope with this dystopia?

We are running out of time to not end with barbarism (followed by extinction) for this world. Yet, communists are still too irrellevant to do anything against capital. I'm not even a third worldist, since also there communist movements are too weak. Why is there nothing in Africa, the most exploited continent on Earth? India also doesn't look like a coming revolution.
Even looking at history, where communist movements have been much bigger and stronger in the west, they weren't successfull. Now, the ruling bourgeoisie has more means to suppress it with propaganda, historical revisionism, subversion, infiltration, sabotage and direct state violence, while we are smaller and weaker than in the past.
I'm still relatively new to this by just being a zoomer activist for about two years, but I already feel burned out from utter frustration. There was some potential with the climate movement for further radicalisation, but this has also been too small since the beginning and had no significant growth since it started. Corona just basically pushed it into irrelevance, made liberals become full on impossible to radicalise, which proceeded to continue bootlicking the government again and "democracy" to voot problems away. The complete failure of western governments to handle the Corona crisis, has not made socialist radicalisation possible either, since people tend to just become reactionary Covid deniers instead, where law enforcement doesn't prosecute them for breaking the law either, but outright walk with them in support instead (which the latter was to be expected but still).

Maybe, I'm just doomin' like Lenin used to at the beginning of WW1, but I don't see how any coming worsening material conditions for proles could possibly break the majority of them out of their capitalist realism, be it in the imperialist core or in the hyper-exploited world.

This is truly the worst timeline. Are we really doomed?
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Is the Big Bang what really happened or is it bourgeoisie science?

If capitalism revolutionized the old way of knowing the world that existed before capitalism then proletarian science will uncover what bourgeois science does not know, therefore is the Big Bang Theory wrong?
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Flash Fiction

ITT post short stories, OC or collected.
Roughly 100 - 1500 words.
Whatever format (normal prose, greentext, etc)

Exercise your creativity by sitting down and writing something short.
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Since the beginning of this year we have seen coup plots sprouting around the world in 3 different countries (Myanmar, Niger, Jorda) in the span of 4 months.
Normal stuff or sign of something shifting?
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Why are libs promoting "equitability" instead of "equality"?

>The goal, DuBois said, is an “equitable economy for cultural understanding” where leaders of color are paid for helping brands avoid major mistakes in their ad campaigns, corporate policies, diversity and inclusion plans, philanthropy and product launches.
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New Multitude magazine

Hi, Leftypol!

I'm the editor of New Multitude, an online magazine for left writers across the globe.

We are non sectarian and so you may not agree with everything we publish, but we are committed to bringing forward new voices. In the past year we have published articles from Uk, Hungary, Sudan, Myanmar, Brazil, Singapore and we are always looking for more! Either if it's a guide to a country's political scene/potential or on the ground reporting or an application of theory..we need you!

[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/newmultitude/ (new normiebook page!)
https://www.patreon.com/newmultitude (NM has no sponsors or corporate backing, please consider a small solidarity donation if you can afford it and appreciate the content. If not, no problem, nothing is paywalled|)

BRAND NEW ARTICLE on the Myanmar Coup. Please read and share if you want to understand the political economy of the coup. We have got some positive reviews of this so far and it even got referenced in a Chuancn.org article.

>Perhaps the idea of the ‘bloc’ was always flawed at one level, given that as long as the Tatmadaw remain an autonomous militia unaccountable to anyone but themselves, an elite partnership is an ontological impossibility. Nevertheless, the institutional oppositions of the power elite are conducted on a platform built on a broad consensus (or doxa) of a political economy based on extractive capitalism and a centralized Bamar-State.


(on a side note, if anyone would like to show solidarity with Myanmar activists by buying them a VPN, please contact me)

NEW ORIGINAL TRANSLATION from Brazilian Communist Party writer André Brandão.

>Reproducing postmodern cultural logic, many people have resorted to the revolutionary theory of the proletariat as an individual response to the impacts of the contemporary identity crisis. It is in this sense that several times Marxism-Leninism has erroneously appeared to the youth: simply as an identity, a kind of new social tribe to participate in. It is a mercantile absorption of the theoretical construction that aims to overcome the capitalist mode of production.

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Socialism or Barbarism

How can anyone believe capitalism won't collapse in our lifetime? It's either world revolution by 2030-2040, or we get this hellscape by 2050.
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A thread in r/Stupidpol has started where they're complaining about the lack of Leftist spaces to talk actual Leftism.
>Is anyone else losing interest due to heavy handed censorship and lack of available forums to discuss certain issues?
>Why don't we recommend Leftypol?
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This man saved socialism. Without him there would be 0 realistic attempts at establishing future communism right now.
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Will my dad's farm be seized in a socialist revolution?

Hi! I have a question that I've been tossing around in my mind and would like some input. I grew up on a family farm in the United States mid-west. My grandfather started it and gave it to my dad who has spent his life working. He has about 800 cattle and only farms cattle. Has some tractors and other equipment, etc. It's only him, he doesn't have any hired workers. He was able to provide a good life for me and my siblings but we were never rich. Just a decent, middle-class life. Now for the question. Under Marxist-Leninist theory I believe that in a socialist revolution his farm would be taken from him and go under the ownership of the state. Now there's no way he would give it up willingly. It's all he has. So in a true socialist society would his farm be forcibly taken from him? And if he refused then what?

Side note. A few years ago the Department of Defense seized (essentially offered them pennies per acre) some land that other family farms were on so they could expand the army ammunition plant and a few farmers hung themselves as a result.

So, would my dad be at risk of having his land, farm, tractors, livestock, all taken from him in a socialist revolution and under the dictatorship of the proletariat?
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Could I get in legal trouble if I made an explicitly anti-cop imageboard with a single board?
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What's wrong with doing nothing?

I'm serious.

If you're seeing this, there's a large chance that you're somewhat comfortable economically because you have to time to piss away on some ridiculously obscure imageboard where opaque theory written by 1900s whitoids is more often discussed than how shitty the work day was. In other words, there's a large chance that life under capitalism is not a large burden to you, the reader.

In addition, the format of social media (or antisocial media like imageboards) encourages further entrenchment into online spaces and makes it virtually impossible for a real movement to be formed through online organization. Everyone here, including me, dedicates way too much mental processing time into virtually-nonexistent online subfactions and memes about memes about memes, further severing ourselves from any connection to the real lives that people face.

What, then, is the argument against resigning from any sort of active political role, and treating Marxism as an esoteric hobby? Reading about it for fun, thinking about it and discussing certain theories and their implications, but ultimately recognizing that dreaming of any revolution à la 1917 or 1949 is borderline schizophrenic, with modern systems of control and the way in which the globe is connected.

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News 4/3/21

‘Kill the Bill’: Londoners march against proposed law that would give police more powers to crack down on public protests (VIDEOS)
The protests were held in 25 cities across England and Wales, including London. People marched from the capital's Hyde Park with placards saying 'Protect our rights' and 'Kill the Bill,' referring to the controversial proposed legislation, known as the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill.

Myanmar death toll mounts amid protests, military crackdown
Security forces in central Myanmar opened fire on anti-coup protesters on Saturday, killing at least two people according to local media. A human rights group said mounting violence since the Feb. 1 military takeover has killed at least 550 civilians.

Human rights platforms condemn Haitian neighborhood massacre
'Some people were injured, houses were burned down, but it is so hard right now to provide a real figure,' said Pierre Esperance, head of the National Network in Defense of Human Rights, before noting that many people were forced to leave the area.

IMF Calls for Taxing World's Richest to Curb Inequality, Stave Off Social Unrest
If governments don't close the gap between society's richest and poorest members—which was growing before and has exploded during the coronavirus crisis—by raising wages for low-income workers, taxing wealthy households, and using the increased revenue to improve social welfare, they should expect diminished trust in government and increased social polarization and unrest.

Turkish fascists attack Kurdish association in Lyon, injuring 4
The Kurdish association in Lyon, France, has been attacked by fascists of Turkey’s "Grey Wolves". Four members were injured, some seriously. The umbrella organization CDK-F speaks of organized attacks, presumably on the directive of the Turkish MIT.

Jordan's former crown prince detained over 'threat to country's stability'
Prince Hamzah bin Hussein, the oldest son of the late King Hussein and his US-born fourth wife Queen Noor, were placed under restriction at his palace in Amman, amid an ongoing investigation into an alleged plot to unseat his older half brother, King Abdullah II, according to a senior Middle East intelligence official briefed on the events.

Argentine president tests positive for Covid-19 after Russia’s Sputnik V shot, but researchers say he will recover swiftly
Argentinian leader Alberto Fernandez has most likely been infected with the new coronavirus, he announced. The virus should not affect him severely, however, as he has previously received the Sputnik V vaccine, researchers say. President Fernandez “performed an antigen test which was positive,” and has been awaiting further confirmation of his state of health having had a PCR test, he wrote on Twitter on Saturday.

Venezuela and Russia Ramp up Economic Ties with 10-Year Plan
The trade deals, which form part of a 10-year agenda, were the result of five technical meetings held in Caracas as part of the High-Level Intergovernmental Commission (CIAN) framework. Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, who led the Kremlin commission, met with President Nicolás Maduro, Vice President Delcy Rodríguez, and Oil Minister Tareck El Aissami.

Australian Labor Party reinforces commitment to health privatisation
This week’s two-day online Australian Labor Party “Special Platform Conference” was a thoroughly-orchestrated event, but one rare contested vote on policy laid bare the party’s support for the continued outsourcing and privatisation of health and disability services.

Russia’s Excess Death Toll Hits 422K
Russia recorded almost 30,000 excess deaths during February, the country’s statistics agency announced Friday — a figure which takes Russia’s total excess fatality count since the start of the coronavirus pandemic above 422,000.
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Prove the Collapse of Capitalism

Fact: I can't prove why capitalism will fail on its own. All I got is a bunch of slogans that I have absorbed through the last three years of being online which I can't actually explain. I can pack a punch in showing the problems of capitalism, however I can't make the final cut of "this will lead to collapse" convincingly.
Statement: I can't be intellectually honest and keep supporting any sort of radical societal change unless I can prove to myself the fact that capitalism is bound for collapse to the point that I can then prove this same fact to a neutral party convincingly.
Conclusion: I need all of your strongest arguments against capitalism surviving. And not just problematic issues that can be theoretically solved, but real shit that will screw over the system big time.
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Can anyone explain Trotsky besides his meme “permanent revolution” shit. What were things he advocate for besides that etc.
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the winter war

i only have three questions about it:
who really was in the wrong here?,this whole situation seems pretty avoidable to me,yet it happened.
-why did the fins reject the ussr's offer to give them east karelia,was it because of what they had to give in return?
-who's the idiot led the red army during this war?
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/leftybritpol/ - Where the Thread At? Edition

Seriously lads stop reading glowvara and keep this shit alive
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Why is 4chan anticommunist?

Is it specifically due to /pol/ or is it just the general retardation of burgeroids that gets them to spread their schizophrenic glownigga ideology to any forum they infest in large enough numbers?
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Religion and Imperialism

Why religion institutions being christian, muslim or scientologist ecc. seek expansion like a capitalist entreprise does?
Monetary gains is hardly an issues for many of these groups and their followers in the countries where they expanded are hardly milkable for money (not to the degree and actual capitalist interprise would)
What their endgame? What do missionaries want? What purpose opening churches or mosques in other countries serve?
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The mind of a /pol/yp

As we were just raided for the fucking umpteenth time just now I was thinking to myself, wtf even causes someone to barf out that many low-effort schizophrenic shitposts on an imageboard, especially with such, weird, disgusting, and sadistic content? And this isn't even referring to other flavors of rightoids such as mindlessly contrarian stupid/pol/yps and NatSoys who actually articulate their retarded beliefs coherently, I actually understand why those people do it, the first one can be fun as fuck tbh, and the second are filled with people who actually understand that there are systemic problems, they just misidentify them and want to apply the wrong solutions, no I'm talking about the people who come here and act like little toddlers spamming nonsensical one-sentence threads and spamming gore and child porn, all the while thinking they're "owning us." They just get on my nerves so FUCKING much, and I just wan to know literally what is even the point of doing it. Are there any people, not just people who used to be /pol/yps or rightoids in general, but who specifically spammed the most random garbage and were basically proud to reduce themselves to infants, and now have recovered and become leftists? I'd really like to here your perspectives. Also btw, this is just me quickly getting my thoughts off quickly, I'm going to make a more well-thought out thread with both questions and some of my own theories about human behavior in general and why some it is so bizarre, because some of you Homo Sapiens really weird me the FUCK out.
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The Rumour Come Out: Does North Korea Is Dengist?

>“It is to have the Party and the state in general to prioritize economic tasks over other national tasks, and to fully devote human, material, and technological resources to economic development.” (Kim Jong-un, April 21 and 23, 2018)

>“Today, for our Party, there is no revolutionary task that is more urgent than promoting economic development and improving the quality of people’s livelihood.” (Kim Jong-un, March 9, 2019)

>Large-scale commitment of soldiers into massive construction sites

>North Korean military aircraft sprinkling fertilizer

=>“Socialist Corporate Responsible Management System”=

Is Kim Jong Un finally breaking the war-communist stagnant state that NK has found itself in since the 90s? Is this the beginning of a new era for the DPRK? Is based Kimmy finally realizing that Songun is unsustainable and he's just going to ride out the inevitable collapse of the US imperial core with blackjack and hookers?
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A thread for everything Russia - related
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Why do radlibs want higher wages?

Inflation is a real concern that seems almost divorced from power per purchase per capita and yet I see it celebrated in leftie circles.

Is the braindead coomsoomer meme just more than a maymay
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Precious Metals

What does /leftypol/ think about buying silver and other precious metals?
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Japanese Marxism

Japanese Marxism AFAIK was super dominant in the 1950s/60s in the econ departments in Japan.

There's a huge tradition of Japanese Marxist economists who are mostly associated with the JCP now, which is mostly unknown to westerners.

People like Nobuo Okishio, Michio Morishima etc.

Does anyone know their writings? and why are they so obscure compared to other writers, is it just a lack of translation?
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Reading Material on Market """Socialism"""

Going to be debating a market socialist here pretty soon. Was wondering if any of you guys had a pdf providing a coherent rebuttal of the concept of market socialism / markets in general? I have read TANS, but I would like some more resources.
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Price controls

Present your arguments for and against price controls implemented in socialist MoP's
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How do you explain, dialectically, the capitalist pillaging of the Soviet state in the 90s? These weren't foreign invaders, or the CIA it was the Soviet people that caused all this.
So, the seeds of the capitalism of the 90s were in the USSR. Why? Where did it all go wrong?
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Crisis of Overproduction

,>The Cîteaux Abbey, just south of Dijon, birthplace of the Cistercian Catholic order, usually sells its raw-milk, semi-soft discs only to restaurants or visitors to its on-site shop. But a drop in demand since the coronavirus crisis erupted last year has left the abbey’s 19 Trappist monks with 4,000 cheeses too many, a 2.8-tonne problem.

>“We tried explaining to our 75 cows that they needed to produce less milk but they don’t seem to have understood,” said brother Jean-Claude, in charge of marketing at the monastery, which was founded in 1098. “Our sales are down nearly 50%,” he said, with French restaurants still closed since 30 October as authorities try to stifle a third wave of cases. “We need to clear out our stock.”

>The monks have teamed with the internet startup Divine Box, which sells products made by abbeys in France and elsewhere, with a goal of selling at least a tonne of cheese by Tuesday. The minimum order is two wheels at 23 euros (£20) each, plus shipping.


Is it happening?
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Post your capitalism fact memes like picrel
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Is India ripe for revolution?

Indian farmers have staged some pretty massive protests for the past few months, and there seems to have been a lot of communists in their ranks. Is there a decent probability that this could grow into something bigger? And if these protests don't lead to revolution, could some similar protests in the near future do so? India going red would be a massive victory for socialism, as it is the second (and soon to be first) most populous country in the world.
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Wanted a thread to get an idea of how the right wing is doing from a global perspective. Here in the states I'm seeing trump flags coming down and being replaced by blue lives matter flags. Everything feels like it's shifted back to the 2010's with endless culture debates, peppered by gun control debates after the predictable mass shootings. With no trump figure to renew them on the horizon.

I haven't a cool about Canada, you guys look like your in stasis like us. Whats the right up too?

In LatAm things look promising with what looks like a renewed pink tide sweeping away the far right and stopping coups. Any LatAm anons please give your perspective. Letus know how the right is reacting.

Heading over to Europe, ACORN looks promising for the Brits. Scottish independence looks possible. The French are still struggling with Macron and LaPen might come back. I'm ignorant of pretty much anything east of those too. West and East European Anons give us a status. In 2017 and 18 it really felt the right wing was making gains on a global scale. It just crumbled back to neo lib status quo. Movement wise I don't see much of them.
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But seriously, I just want to get this aside. And sorry if this has been discussed many of times (feel free to also link me to another board where this has been discussed). But what is really the appeal of National Bolshevism? It just seems very incoherent to me and just a hodgepodge of right wing and left wing ideas that is ultimately anti-liberal. If you want to have an effect on the world, shouldn't you have a more coherent ideology? Due to its incoherence it just seems more like a social club to me. Or like an aimless petty bourg movement. Does any Nazbol have a more or less unified theory on how human society develops (like Marxism)?
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Karl Kautsky

Do you think WW1 was what broke him?
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Can you dumb motherfuckers stop trying to grab every "marxist" meme phrase to dump on your every post like you think it makes you a more true socialist or smarter or something? When I see you misuse the term "material conditions" to mean "living conditions" it doesn't make me think you're a smart guy who knows what he's talking about, it makes me think you're a meme-trained pseud retard who doesn't even bother looking at marxists.org to get a simple short definition of a phrase. If you're not going to read theory can you at least pick up definitions to use things properly? Or better yet, just stop trying to write like you're channeling some 19'th century philosopher in the first place. You can in fact convey these concepts without needing to write like you're still living in 1875.
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Prague Spring

How could this have been avoided? Huge PR disaster for the USSR and fucked up the morale and good will of much of the eastern bloc.

Couldn't the USSR have come to a more leniant compromise and allowed Czechoslovakia to be an experiment in free speech and non-censorship? It's hard to believe that the leadership actually thought they could keep such a tight leash on speech and media for so long, and if they used a lighter hand to deal with these reforms being passed in the eastern bloc (on the condition that economic leninistization was completely off the table and the military remained loyal) it could've provided a model for loosening certain restrictions on speech, art, and associations in the future. I think multiparty elections were a bad idea, especially at the same time as the other reforms, and if they were allowed at any point they should have only allowed other communist parties. But a loosening of cultural restrictions was probably inevitably going to happen at some point.

In a slightly more cynical realpolitik, as long as the military and KGB remained tightly tied to the Czechoslovak state, the country could serve as a honeypot for genuine dissenters who were advocating for economic leninistization or covert sabotage. Don't come down heavyhanded with the information collected in the country but save it for later. If someone like Yeltsin felt safer hanging out and talking about his plans in a satellite state, his links to the west and plans for leninistization and dissolution of the bloc could be spread later to prevent him from getting a more influential position.

I'm not saying this should've been allowed/encouraged in every eastern bloc satellite state, but if a couple had been used as experiments for gradual social reforms, it seems like it would have been a win/win as far as not alienating those countries from the USSR while providing a useful case study for what the effects of such reforms might be.

Obviously any leniancy would be on the condition that any contact with western political agencies, NGOs, activists, companies etc remains extremely limited and subject to USSR oversight.
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Does anyone else feel like we've already lost? It really feels like most people are too brainwashed to give a shit.
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>Was a Marxist when that was still mildly edgy
>Then said “umm Capital is GOOD actually” once that became the contrarian thing to do
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Propaganda of the Deed

Who the hell thought this was a good idea?
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Stuff on Spanish revolution

Can the good commrades of this basketweaving forum suggest some good, in-depth literature about the Spanish revolution 36-39. I am not interested in the Spanish civil war as such, but as to how how the social and economical life was organized in the republican-communist-anarchist held areas.
A while ago there was a thread called something like "based spaniards" where one anon posted an interesting quote from a Spanish revolutionary, who said we made the revolution, we ran the firms in such and such way, but we were militarily defeated.
I stareted thinking that the bolshevik revolution and the spanish revolution should be meshed together. On the one hand you can't ignore state power, because if you do, the other side will use it to crush you with tanks and bombs and shit. On the other hand, if you care too much about state power and say we need an intermediate period between now and a communist society, you get tangled up in a weird web where spineless bureaucrats employed in the state apparatus get too much power and incapacitate any chace for a gradual "whithering away of the state".
And since I know next to nothing about what went on in Spain in those 3 years (apart from the military aspect), I gotta learn my shit.
So - what are some great resources on how the anarchists/communist/etc ran things in their areas of Spain during the 2 years.
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Esoteric Hitlerism General: AFAP Edition (ALL FASCISTS ARE PEDOS)

This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.

To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism.

The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement.

What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony.

Link to last thread archive:


The thread from which it was born:


If anybody has the thread inbetween those archived that would be wonderful, all the info is copied into that first link but some of the discussion was good and bants.

Fresh Material courtesy of a Based Anon:



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>totally not a honeypot
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Please post dancing communists, I would like to make a video
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/pol/lackism is a drug.
Notice how low the posting averages can get on 4chan when there isn't a happening going on. There needs to be a consistent stream of outrage for people to be engaged, the George Floyd trails are pretty much a huge shot of ideology for the /pol/lacks since pol posting is so high now, but it seems as if /pol/lackism NEEDS constant happenings to well happen to sustain itself. Constant action keeps one's mind from observing things.
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News 4/2/21

DPR head declares first ever draft campaign in republic
Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) head Denis Pushilin announced the first draft campaign in the republic, starting on April 1. Pushilin’s order was published on Thursday. "Between April 1,and July 15, 2012, carry out a draft of citizens born between 1994 and 2003, not in reserve, and subjected to draft in accordance with the law on conscription and military service," the order reads.

KKE: "Greece 2.0" to Bring More Sacrifices for the People
"The only new things brought by the 'Greece 2.0' plan presented by Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis are more sacrifices for workers and the people to help a recovery of the profits of the few," the Communist Party of Greece (KKE) stated on Wednesday.

A London police officer belonged to a terrorist neo-Nazi group. He was exposed by an ‘antifa’ hacker.
In late 2019, an anonymous hacker, identified only as “antifa-data,” leaked the usernames, emails, and IP addresses of every account on a notorious white supremacist message board. One of those accounts, authorities soon learned, appeared to belong to a police constable.

Iran, world powers to discuss U.S. return to nuclear deal, compliance
France’s foreign ministry spokeswoman told reporters in a daily briefing that the European powers were working closely with Russia and China - the other remaining parties to the deal - to find a solution to the deadlock and had been talking with both Tehran and Washington.

US removes military assets from Saudi Arabia, Gulf: Report
The US has begun to reconfigure its military capabilities in the Gulf and removed at least three Patriot missile defence systems from the region, the Wall Street Journal reported. US officials told the Journal on Thursday that at least one Patriot anti-missile battery was removed from Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia despite repeated rocket and drone attacks from both Yemen and Iraq.

Top Turkish court rejects bid to close pro-Kurdish party
Citing technical flaws in a case seeking the closure of the pro-Kurdish Peoples’ Democratic Party, the Turkish Constitutional Court rejected an indictment by a top prosecutor, setting the stage for possible rifts among political alliances in Ankara.

Mexico, Bolivia for a strategic partnership
They agreed on the significance of caring for and protecting their citizens abroad and working together on consular cooperation matters for the benefit of Mexican and Bolivian nationals around the world. The leaders recognized the Mexico-Bolivia Economic Complementation Agreement in force since 2010, as a tool to take advantage of the economic-commercial relationship potential.

Brazil: calls grow for removal of 'coup-mongering' Bolsonaro as crisis builds
Prominent leaders of Brazil’s opposition have called for president Jair Bolsonaro to be immediately removed from office to prevent his “coup-mongering, authoritarian delusions” becoming a reality. “We cannot be bystanders to this barbarism,” congressman Marcelo Freixo said on Wednesday as parliamentarians demanded Bolsonaro’s impeachment for what they called his illegal attempt to co-opt the armed forces.

Anti-India protests erupt in Kashmir after troops kill 3 rebels
He said troops recovered two rifles and a pistol from the site of Friday’s clash, and that one of the recovered weapons had been taken by the rebels from the slain policeman. Residents said troops used explosives to blast a civilian house during the fighting, a common tactic employed by Indian troops in Kashmir.

Europe's drought-induced crop losses tripled in 50 years, threatening future global food supply chain
The study examined agricultural production in 28 European countries (including the UK) from 1961 to 2018 and compared it with the prevalence of extreme weather events such as floods, droughts, heat waves and cold snaps alike, all four of which increased in frequency over the study period.
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Can plastic surgery be reconciled with a coherent leftist ideology?
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Should I be worried about Islam in Europe?
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What do you guys think about Georgism?
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What was it about the civilization of Ancient Greece that made it so ripe for a such an incredibly rich intellectual culture? An enormous amount of philosophy comes from this particular society at this particular time. What is the historical explanation? How did this culture come about? What might we do to create a future society with as strong a philosophical tradition?
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Feelin bad cause I heard David Harvey say changing peoples minds is worthless, and that people only change their minds by having different experiences. 😔 that clearly isn't true.

Haven't you ever known one of these deeply religious people. Who are servile to a fault. Everything bad that happens to them is god testing them, everything good is gods blessing. The experiences don't matter at all because they're all flattened into being a part of gods plan.

Meanwhile if you change their mind, then suddenly all their prior experiences would change. They would see their life in a new hopefully note productive light. Now, obviously some straight bullshit about hitting them over the head with how god isn't real won't work. But thats the whole trick, is leading the ideas in peoples head to immanently undermine themselves.

I fear vulgar materialism is going to screw up the people that are trying to help. 😔 no one will try to reach out to other people if they think changing minds is useless.
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The Dictatorship of the Apri.l Firs.t's Voletariat

Good job, comrades. Can we get back to the pre- troll wordfilter world now?

HURR, "reformist" = "REFORMIST"
10/10 funnay
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Leftist Infographics Thread

Title says it all. Post lefty infographics and other redpill sources.
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Charts and graphs highlighting sucesses in the USSR

Let's do a thread to share, make and find evidence of sucess (particularly economic sucess) in the USSR, as well as other socialist countries. I'll start with what I have.
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How do anarchists plan to deal with counter-revolutionaries?

Marxist-Leninists propose building a strong, centralized state to suppress counter-revolutionary activity, but what have anarchists proposed? I am referring to counter-revolutionaries both within an anarchist polity (e.g. reactionary rebel groups), as well as those outside of it (e.g. CIA, foreign armies, etc.).
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Radlibs and "Race realists" completely BTFO
>The Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities found social class and family structure had a bigger impact on how people's lives turned out.
>"As a result, we came to the view that recommendations should, wherever possible, be designed to remove obstacles for everyone, rather than specific groups."

Class first Marxist approach to the U.K's social problems seem to be vindicated, area and class play more important roles than race or racism. Show this to all idpolers and racists, Marxists have been vindicated once again.
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>Go online
>Most shit from "socialists" is cancel shit that is viewed by most as cringe.
>Online right has a lot of clout and respect.
>4chan, the nexus of meme culture is thoroughly right-wing
>everyone hates twitter, the representation of the western left
>Yet despite all this 50% of people aged 18-36 consider themselves to be socialists

Okay, how the fuck is this happening?
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after the whole 100 hr working week scandal at goldman sachs, junior analysts in many boutiques and investment banks are NOW interested in forming unions (irony died a thousand deaths)
knowing the sort of bastards who get into finance, it's just going to be a guild, and these people will become MDs and VPs within one or two decades, and perpetuate the cycle of shitting on the rest of us
>inb4 the dsa organises a bankers union
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News 4/1/21

Communist Party launches Scottish election campaign
THE Communist Party launched its Scottish election campaign on Wednesday night with a manifesto promising a strategy to beat Covid-19. Candidates will be part of the party’s biggest run since the 1980s, with contenders also standing for the Welsh Senedd, Greater London Authority and various English council seats.

Tens of Thousands of Amazon Workers Went on Strike in Italy
We can undoubtedly say that last Tuesday was a historic day in Italy: for the first time in Europe, a 24-hour strike affected Amazon across its entire supply chain. Out of 40,000 total workers — both those employed directly by Amazon and those working for subcontractors — several thousands joined the strike.

Shining Path Commander’s Death Strikes Blow to Peru Rebel Group
Military officials in Peru have announced the death of a top Shining Path commander more than five months after an operation in which they claim he was injured in a firefight, raising questions about their timing and how his absence might impact the group moving forward.

European NGO Asks Albanian MP Candidate to Resign over Praise of social democracy
Bozo’s statement was also supported on live television a few days later by MP Damian Gjiknuri, one of the closest associates of party leader, Prime Minister Edi Rama. “The [communist] regime had its own good and bad sides[…] It was better for the public sphere but not good for the private,” Gjiknuri said when asked on whether he supported Bozo’s claim that the communist regime brought more advantages than disadvantages to Albania.
https://exit.al/en/2021/03/31/european-ngo-asks-albanian-mp-candidate-to-resign-over-praise-of-social democracy/

Russia, Taiwan, Cuba and Mexico Reject US Human Rights Report
Cuba, for its part, rejected the report, with the director of the International Policy Research Center, José Ramón Cabañas, regretting the "terrible beginning for the exercise of cleaning up the battered image left by Trumpism all over the planet."

Russian diplomats reveal ‘acute shortage’ of essentials in North Korea caused by Covid-19 restrictions, embassies almost empty
“The exodus of foreigners will continue,” an embassy statement read. “There are now hardly any foreigners left – fewer than 290 in all. One can understand those leaving the Korean capital – not everyone can withstand the unprecedentedly strict total restrictions, the acute shortage of essential goods, including medicines, and the lack of opportunities to solve health problems.”

UK school textbooks on Middle East conflict altered to favour Israel: Report
In another case, the original edition includes the statement that during the first intifada of 1987-93 "the arms and fingers of [Palestinian] child stone throwers were broken [by Israeli soldiers]". This fact is well documented. In the revised edition it has been removed.

Warships & submarines entering zone of Nord Stream 2 pipeline in ‘planned & prepared provocations’ to obstruct work, says operator
“After the resumption of Nord Stream 2 offshore construction in January 2021, there has been an increase in activity of military ships, planes, and helicopters, as well as civilian ships of foreign countries, whose actions are often provocative in nature,” Minin said, noting that the presence of these vessels could damage the pipeline.

New UK counter-extremism head worked for think tank which hosted Islamophobes
A former research fellow at a conservative American think tank that has hosted Islamophobic conspiracy theorists has been appointed head of the British government’s anti-extremism agency. Robin Simcox, a former research fellow at the Heritage Foundation in Washington DC, has been appointed interim lead at the Commission for Countering Extremism.

Australian government announces missile building program as US steps up war drive against Taiwan
The project was foreshadowed last June, when Morrison’s government unveiled a massive $270 billion spend on military hardware over this decade, taking total military expenditure to $575 billion in the next 10 years. At the time, emphasis was placed on the acquisition of missiles and other strike capabilities from abroad, including the purchase last year of 200 long-range, anti-ship missiles from the US.
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Canada General

I thought we could use a Canada thread, with Albertans possibly getting more serious about separatism over muh oil and gas, as well as the RCMP destroying records relating to the shooting of a Native man. Also curious how many Canadians are on here.
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There's no escape from Crony Capitalism is there?
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French leftists forbidding whitoids to speak on sensitive subjects

>Pulvar, a Black former news anchor running under the Socialist banner in the upcoming regional elections, said on Sunday that white people should not be banned from discussion groups on minority issues, but that “they can however be asked to keep quiet and be silent spectators.”

>“Audrey Pulvar is not racist,” tweeted Jean-Luc Mélenchon, the leader of France Unbowed. “She understands what a discussion group is. Those attacking her are putting their sexist and prejudiced opinions on display.”

How we determine who is allowed to talk about what? I think this is the most pressing issue that must me solved, before class unity can even he hinted at.
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Suez canal is shutdown, big cargo ship is blocking it. No end in site. Massive backlogs of ships on both sides. Financial apocalypse coming shortly.

Watch in realtime:
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Situationists, New Left

What do you guys think about The Situationist International and affiliated groups like Black Mask, Up Against The Wall Motherfucker!, and the Yippies. Obviously the Situationists and the New Left didn't make a lasting impact, but in America, traditional leftists organizations aren't that strong today either. Traditional methods of organizing are pretty ineffective today: labor unions have been coopted by the establishment or are mostly apolitical, traditional ML parties have a tendency to splinter and die or just remain irrelevant, and protests go unnoticed. All America has as far as the left is concerned is the DSA. What can be learned from the New Left and the Situationists? Is it possible to push the left forward by trying to change the superstructure? Can't we attempt to take advantage of the spectacle by engaging in highly performative forms of protest, thereby forcing the media to actually talk about Communism? I have mixed feelings about the "online" left, as it mostly consists of grifters and twitter infighting, but the internet and social media are obviously tools that can and should be utilized to bring attention to our cause. Taking a couple pages from the "groucho marxists" could be useful.

Either way, the left in the US really needs to adapt to the times if it wants to become relevant once again; looking to the aforementioned movements for tactics is just one possible idea.
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Here is a question for you class struggle communusts: If capitalism can survive a massive shutdown for a year like the one we just saw during this pandemic, what is the chance it could ever be brought down by a general strike or street protests like Tahrir Square? How realistic are those strategies?
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Why did the default site theme change to Jungle?
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I hope my dear comrades understand that cold war never ended and its going to be hot sooner or later. 80 years of peace thanks to Soviet leadership but people have forgotten how war is status quo for humanity.
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So was he right? Was the Soviet Union a degenerated worker's state? Why does this man cause so much butthurt?
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Running For Office?

>run for office as a Democrat
>win, get into office
>officially switch from Democrat to Communist
Why has nobody done this?
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Ho Chi Minh

Why isn't he more studied in the west?

People tend to focus on Marx, Engels, Kautsky, Mao, and even Stalin (he/him) over him. Even leftcom and anarchist writers get more love, yet the guy who led vietnam through a war against imperial Japan, France, and halfway through the war against America gets no theoretic credit?

He's probably the most successful reformist of all time given he won 2.5 wars. Yes Lê Duẩn took over in 1965 and successfully won the war, but that was due to Ho Chi Minh being old and sick.
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Why doesn't the left like chans

Why are chans/imageboard format sites so unpopular on the mainstream left? Why does the left prefer reddit, twitter, tumbler(when it was not dead), etc.?

Other than /leftypol/ it seems like the left mostly seems to be on twitter, and maybe a few odd zoomer lefties on tiktok or w/e.
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News 3/31/21

Brazil on edge as three military chiefs resign after Bolsonaro fires defense minister
The commanders of the Brazilian army, navy and air force – Gen Edson Leal Pujol, Adm Ilques Barbosa and Lt-Brig Antônio Carlos Bermudez – met with the president’s new minister on Tuesday morning and reportedly tendered their resignations during a dramatic and heated encounter.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/brazil-military-chiefs-resign-bolsonaro-fires-defense-minister

Venezuela to Maintain Operations in Border Zones With Colombia
In recent days, Venezuelan authorities have denounced several aggressions committed by these groups against the civilian population in border zones such in the State of Apure. In Colombia, however, President Ivan Duque's administration does not combat these irregular armed groups. On the contrary, they are being used as a "beachhead" to escalate conflicts against the Bolivarian nation.

Myanmar coup: Kevin Rudd joins calls for UN security council intervention
Rudd raised the alarm as he called for an urgent meeting of the UN security council, arguing the international community had a “responsibility to protect” the people of Myanmar from “mass atrocities” by the country’s military.

'Oli sabotaging communist movement'
Eleven influential leaders of the CPN- UML faction led by Madhav Kumar Nepal and Jhalanath Khanal today issued a joint statement accusing party Chair and Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli of attempting to split the party and conspiring to sabotage the communist movement in the country.

Communist Party of Mexico blasts police repression over the murder of Salvadoran migrant in Quintana Roo
The death of 36 year-old Victoria Esperanza Salazar – a Salvadoran migrant who died in Tulum, Mexico, after a policewoman put her knee on her back for several minutes – continues to evoke outrage on after additional details of her life and how she died surfaced.

Japan opposition submits no-confidence motion against minister over scandal
Along with the CDPJ, the motion of no confidence was submitted by the Japanese Communist Party, the Democratic Party for the People, and the Social Democratic Party. The move ratcheted up tensions between the ruling and opposition parties ahead of a lower house by-election in Hokkaido as well as another by-election in Nagano Prefecture and a re-run election in Hiroshima Prefecture for seats in the House of Councillors.

Cosatu, SACP welcome ANC affirmation of ‘step aside’ rules
Following the conclusion of its heated NEC meeting at the weekend, ANC president Cyril Ramaphosa said the resolution taken at the party’s 54th national conference was non-negotiable. The so-called “step aside” rules could see ANC secretary-general Ace Magashule and several other party leaders step down from their posts pending the finalisation of their criminal cases.

5 CPI Maoist Cadres Killed By Police During Firefight In Gadchiroli District
The operation was launched on Friday in Khobramendha area of Kurkheda tehsil, in north Gadchiroli, and ended in a two-and-a-half-hour gun battle on a hillock – the police team took on around 60 CPI (Maoist) cadres positioned on top of the hillock. It was one of the longest encounters the district has seen since the beginning of the Maoist movement.

Israeli forces rearrest Palestinian man celebrating release after 20 years in prison
The 45-year-old was first arrested in 2001 at the peak of the Second Intifada, and was charged with belonging to the Popular Front for Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Marxist-Leninist group, and plotting military acts against Israeli targets. When he was arrested, Barbar was forced to leave behind a 15-day-old daughter and two-year-old son.

As Germans flirt with idea of first Green chancellor, a key opposition figure warns of the party’s ‘cultural Marxist’ agenda
Speaking exclusively with RT.com, the Alternative für Deutschland Euro MP warned, “The Green Party is not about ecologism. “It is now a cultural Marxist, internationalist party so they would press for a much more centralised EU state, fiscal union, ever-more money printing by the European Central Bank, solidarity in more policy areas, the green transition… in short everything that is subsumed beneath the term ‘The Great Reset’.
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Nuclear Energy

What is /leftypol/'s opinion on nuclear energy, advanced nuclear, etc. ?

How much will nuclear energy be utilized under socialism?
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Seeing the events of the last few days,
>2008 constitution explictly refused, draft of new one published (which means burning all bridges with the military)
>Ethnic armed groups declaring renewed hostilities towards the Army
>NeoKautskyists drafting new constitution in accordance with Ethnic Armed Organizations

And with a renewed military campaign by the Army against the Ethnic militias i feel like this is the opportune time to open a thread dedicated to watching the development of the Myanmar Civil War.


Myanmar Federal Army: Made up of the Ethnic organizations fighting against the Burmese majority Army and by the people who rebelled in the cities against the coup.

They are the military arm of the Civil Disobedience Movement (civilian protesters front), which in turn responds directly to the neoKautskyist parallel government, also known as CRPH (Committee Representing Pyidaungsu Hluttaw)

Strength: Around 30000 (counting the ethnic militias already fighting), probably will increase with time
Ideology: NeoKautskyistism, federalism
Allies: Usa, Uk for sure. Seen with sympathy by most Western governments.

Tatmadaw: The regular army of Myanmar, which couped the elected government in February of this year

Strength: Around 500000
Ideology: Burmese Supremacy/Generic military shit.
Allies: Russia.


1) PRC: Unlikely what glowies say on social media, Chinese government did not give full support to the coup and this whole situation is very much damaging for them. As of now they haven't figured it out how to intervene in this situation.

2) Wa State Army: One of the strongest ethnic militas, with ties to the PRC and an estimate of 25-30k armed men. They did not say anything about the conflict.

3) Communist party of Burma: After being wiped out in 1989 they exist only clandestinely with unknown numbers. They expressed anger at the coup but refused to take part in the neoKautskyist protest movement.

Myanmar Coup Thread: https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/64580.html

Hoping anons will be eager to follow this situation as it unfolds.
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Tankie Debaters

Why does every ML debater that goes up against radlib youtube seem to suck so much ass? Or come of as a complete moron or an unhinged lunatic? Dont get me wrong, I'm an ML myself, it really is a complex and nuanced political science and a great instruction manual for proletarian organization. But why is it that despite the fact that we have centuries of theory on our side, the history is largely on our side, and all of the advantages in that regard that all of the vocal MLs online have dogshit rhetorical skill? I'm talking about the likes of Haz, Mel, Default, Caleb Maupin. Why dont we have anybody that can actually hold their own in an intense debate?
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What are some good operational security tips, both in person and online? Obviously don't use your real name or face online, but what are some additional steps I can take to remain anonymous, especially during irl protests?
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Today Karl Marx died.
Press F to show your respects.
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Is the idea of replacing central banking with Bitcoin a utopian fantasy, or is it in theory possible?

I found this Marxist response from 2013 to Austrian proposals involving Bitcoin and central banking, but to be honest it doesn't sound very convincing. What does "not be enough gold in the world to support the existing value of the bitcoins" mean?

>The Bitcoin system, however, aims to abolish the banking system and its central bank along with credit money. If we were to replace bank-created credit money with token money bitcoins, we would have to issue a dollar’s worth of bitcoins for each dollar of credit money that would have to be replaced or face a massive shortage of currency. A shortage of currency would lead to a collapse in monetarily effective demand, with all the consequences in terms of collapsing production, world trade and employment.

>Suppose we modify the Bitcoin program so that it would in a one-time operation replace all of today’s credit money with bitcoin token money. The problem would then be that there would not be enough gold in the world to support the existing value of the bitcoins. The bitcoins would dramatically fall in value against gold. Once they stabilized at their new lower value, there would not be enough monetarily effective demand to maintain anything like the current levels of industrial and agricultural production. The world economy and indeed the human population would collapse to a much lower level as unbelievable levels of unemployment and mass starvation swept across the planet.

From https://critiqueofcrisistheory.wordpress.com/bitcoins-and-monetary-reform-in-the-digital-age/
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Iran Iraq war

Who were the good guys?
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Consultation: The creation of a /music/ board

Hello everyone, thank you for sticking with us through our transition to the new site and these turbulent times in general, this consultation is going to be fairly simple, since you've all been on your best behaviour we thought it might be a nice idea to make a music board like some people have been asking about and since the number of users is growing slowly but steadily. This topic is to gauge opinions/interest.

Please let us know:
- Any ideas for interesting names
- What other boards you would be interested in
- Any other feedback related to /music/ (working title)
- Or if you think we shouldn't have the board at all.

Thank you for your attention!
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So when liberals use this term they’re basically admitting that anyone their empires have sinned against are dirty mud people so bringing up their historical crimes are irrelevant yes?
Because I just don’t see how a non-subhuman could ever use “whataboutism” as a serious counter in a debate
How does the American liberal’s lizard brain even function in this way?
It’s basically like some warped attempt to deflect from the fact that people point out America’s crimes to demonstrate why their hysterical accusations mean nothing and are likely dishonest, but the Liberal, that perfidious rat, seems to intentionally misunderstand this
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Replying to Jehu

I know Jehu just graced this board with this question but it was rather flippantly dismissed. I think Maoists still have a strong answer for the article and acc-types never really believed in the power of human agency to begin with - but where does that leave everyone else. I'm interested if Jehu will elaborate more since an earlier blogpost of his mentioned a very syndicalist general strike of everyone stealing labor time from their employer.

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Is he as big as an idiot as people often make him out to be. His antisemitism is inexcusable but I feel like people overlook him because of it. His criticism of religion being an inherently an authoritarian belief is pretty on point. Secondly he shows that anarchists not inherently against authority. He also agreed with Marx on the nature of capitalism and praised his Das Kapital as being very good.

<M. Karl Marx, the illustrious leader of German Communism, justly observed in his magnificent work "Das Kapital" [2] that if the contract freely entered into by the vendors of money -in the form of wages - and the vendors of their own labor -that is, between the employer and the workers - were concluded not for a definite and limited term only, but for one's whole life, it would constitute real slavery.

<Does it follow that I reject all authority? Far from me such a thought. In the matter of boots, I refer to the authority of the bootmaker; concerning houses, canals, or railroads, I consult that of the architect or engineer. For such or such special knowledge I apply to such or such a savant. But I allow neither the bootmaker nor the architect nor the savant to impose his authority upon me. I listen to them freely and with all the respect merited by their intelligence, their character, their knowledge, reserving always my incontestable right of criticism censure. I do not content myself with consulting authority in any special branch; I consult several; I compare their opinions, and choose that which seems to me the soundest. But I recognize no infallible authority, even in special questions; consequently, whatever respect I may have for the honesty and the sincerity of such or such an individual, I have no absolute faith in any person. Such a faith would be fatal to my reason, to my liberty, and even to the success of my undertakings; it would immediately transform me into a stupid slave, an instrument of the will and interests of others.

< What is authority? Is it the inevitable power of the natural laws which manifest themselves in the necessary concatenation and succession of phenomena in the physical and social worlds? Indeed, against these laws revolt is not only forbidden — it is even impossible. We may misunderstand them or not know them at all, but we cannot disobey them; because they constitute the basis and fundamental conditions of our existence; they envelop us, penetrate us, regulate all our movements, thoughts, and acts; even when we believe that we disobey them, we only show their omnipotence.

Yes, we are absolutely the slaves of these laws. But in such slavery there is no humiliation, or, rather, it is not slavery at all. For slavery supposes an external master, a legislator outside of him whom he commands, while these laws are not outside of us; they are inherent in us; they constitute our being, our whole being, physically — intellectually, and morally: we live, we breathe, we act, we think, we wish only through these laws. Without them we are nothing, we are not. Whence, then, could we derive the power and the wish to rebel against them?


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"You can't blame average Germans for being complicit in Hitler's dictatorship"

There is this narrative that average Germans can't be blamed for Hitler's dictatorship. It's not their fault and they were too scared to resist and most people in their position wouldn't resist. It's just human nature after all.

What do you think about this narrative?

To me this narrative reeks of bullshit. People can, will and have historically resisted oppression. It is not human nature to be a bootlicker.
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Burger schools aren't bad? [race]

I was arguing with a rightoid the other day and I was arguing for increasing funding of education, pointing out euro states have higher testscores. He argued that the only reason the US has lower test scores is because of "muh joggers" and that US whites actually score pretty good.

I looked up the data and he's right - finns score 522ish for science scores for example, while US whites score 531 and US-asians score around 525, with blacks/latinos scoring lower.

How can this argument be contradicted? It's common knowledge that US schools are bad, but it looks like some aren't? the ones which have whiter, probably richer students and get more funding
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Donbass War General 2, shit's fucked

>Military build-up in the Donbass on both sides
>Putin has political difficulties at home to distract from
>Zelenskiy saying "for the first time Ukraine has a plan to deoccupy and reintegrate Crimea"
>Biden saying of Putin "The price he’s going to pay, you’ll see shortly"
War's on the horizon, war in the East. This is a thread for that.
BTW shit's might go down HARD

First General:
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Thoughts on the Gravel Institute as a counter to PragerU?

I've been looking at their YT channel and it seems actually incredibly based, your guy's thoughts?
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Why are econ majors such utter faggots?

Is the class designed to teach you how to lick porky’s cum off the floor or something?
Wtf do they even teach you in econ?
And why do people pretend that it’s a hard science?
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What leads people to create this amorphous mental enemy called "normalfags" and why is it so prevalent on the internet?
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redpill me on the global anticommunist eastern "triangle" led by ukrainian and israeli multibillionaires and american capitalist satanists
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Demasculinization of Opposition

Something I've noticed about the left vs the right, in terms of their memes. The right tends to make their opponents look effeminate and weak, but the left seems to embody their opponents as overtly masculine, square jawed, and so on. Both sides make their opponents look ugly, but it's unique to the left to make their opponents as masculine. Why is this? Is making the opposition look like big strong men an unnecessary obstacle to revolution? How can this be fixed? Does it need to be?
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The Chinese Century is Cancelled

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If "right to work" laws are so awful and detrimental to labor union organizing, then why are unions so much healthier and more powerful in the UK and Europe, despite closed shops and "forcing people to join unions" being ruled illegal by the European Court of Human Rights?
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Leftism and Physical Fitness

Tonight I found someone redpilling /fit/izens on /fit/. It actually got me thinking about physical fitness and the American Left. Why do leftists have such a bad reputation for being limp-wristed ectomorphs? And I say American leftists because I know this probably isn't the case for other Western or periphery countries. I hate that my gym is filled with cops and reactionaries. Here and there I spot a Bernie supporter. But it's a very small minority of people. I just want to find some fellas to lift and talk theory with.
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Is left journalism still have place in neolib shithole?

What do you think about vice? Sometimes they produce based news, sometimes silly. Looks like I need to see it from the editors who wrote the news.
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why does leftypol hate this guy so much?
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Rush Limbaugh, Architect of Socialism

Most of what the Right calls socialism is hardly worthy of the name. Yet Fox’s breathless red-baiting has redounded to the advantage of actual socialists.

Fox is wedded to this rhetoric because it riles up their base and drives up ratings. Perhaps it made some sense on a political level in the late nineties and early aughts, when socialism had no mainstream resonance. But Fox and the sections of the GOP that are molded in its image made a major miscalculation when they decided to keep it up through the late aughts and the 2010s, as inequality, crushing student debt, and outrageously high housing costs have made capitalism synonymous with misery.

The result: an unintended coup for socialism. First, the Right’s exaggerations rendered the term functionally meaningless for most Americans. Then their consistent application of the socialist label to undeniably good things that people want actually started to make the term seem… well, attractive.

The late aughts were the turning point. Two major development happened then, to which Fox and other right-wing red-baiters failed to adjust. First, millennials came of age. The word “socialism” failed to act as an automatic repellent for this generation. You can’t simply say “socialism” to someone who was an infant when the Berlin Wall fell, as I was, and expect it to dampen their enthusiasm for much-needed redistributive reform. This is especially the case for a generation facing a grim economic prognosis.

The generations that came before us were subjected to a rigorous anti-socialist ideological campaign, analogous to the one millennials experienced around the idea of “terrorism.” But millennials were not ourselves witness to the height of that anti-socialist campaign, because in our youth, there was no active socialist presence to campaign against.

Chasing approval from baby boomers, the Right failed to account for this generational shift. Taking for granted that the word “socialism” would work its predictable magic, they left the subtext of their redbaiting largely unargued and unexplained. This miscalculation backfired terribly, actually hastening socialism’s jettisoning of its Cold War baggage — and eventually paving the way for positive associations among the young. American millennials now prefer socialism to capitalism.

But this isn’t just a story about millennials. People across generational divides have warmed to socialist ideas, as evidenced by self-avowed democratic socialist Bernie Sanders’ strong favorability among people of all age brackets. Nearly half of people age fifty-five and over, the target age bracket for Fox News’ alarmist evocations of the socialist boogeyman, report that they like Bernie Sanders.

This trend can’t be chalked up to fading historical memory alone. Many people who do remember the fall of the Berlin Wall no longer associate socialism with tyranny. This is because, for the vast majority of Americans, wages have stagnated while the cost of living has skyrocketed, and life under capitalism has itself begun to feel drab and unfree.

The Right made a particularly bad error when the economy collapsed in 2008: they turned the anti-socialist volume up instead of down. In the early days of the crisis, when it looked like there could be another 1930s-style depression, their obsessive anti-socialist commentary actually spiked. It was more a reflection of the Right’s own internal anxieties than any real threat at the time. But ironically, all the talk of socialism ended up inoculating people and helped make the threat real.

The Great Recession was devastating for ordinary Americans. Obama’s leadership through the crisis was hardly socialist in character (see: bank bailouts). But when he did try to modestly alleviate Americans’ economic suffering, as with the Affordable Care Act, he was met with untempered scaremongering about a socialist takeover. This despite the fact that the ACA was actually designed to preserve the private insurance industry — unlike its more socialist cousin Medicare for All, which replaces that industry with a universal tax-funded social program.

Still, it seemed to many like a step in the right direction — especially Medicaid expansion, which was always the most popular provision of the ACA (and is incidentally the least capitalist provision, Medicaid being a tax-funded public insurance program). And yet when the Democrats fought for it, Republicans accused them of being socialists and communists.

People got sick of it. They were fighting to pay rent, to pay off loans, to keep the house or the car, to afford tuition. They stopped caring if a proposal was vulnerable to allegations of socialism, because apparently everything that threatened corporate profits was. Maybe the ACA was the last straw, or maybe it was something else, but by the time the fog of recession lifted, popular associations with socialism had shifted dramatically.

This was the climate in which Bernie Sanders’ dark-horse presidential candidacy grew overnight. Bernie saw people’s softened resistance to socialism and took it a step further, articulating a positive political vision and suggesting that socialism is exactly the direction we need to be heading.

Since then, Bernie’s emergence since as a major political player has sealed the deal: socialism is no longer taboo. To millions of people, the word instead evokes fairness, dignity, and solidarity.

By voiding socialism of meaning — and better yet, associating it with changes people actually want — Fox News and company paved the way for Bernie Sanders and the rise of democratic socialism here in the beating heart of global capitalism.

For those of us who truly do desire a transformed economic system, this is a moment of enormous political opportunity. And in part we have Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Tucker Carlson, and the rest of the gang to thank for it.

The Right’s habit of calling everything socialism is far from new, but it has never been less troubling. What used to be a savvy scare tactic for reactionaries is now a recruitment strategy for the other team. Unfortunately for them, and blessedly for us, that socialist threat isn’t fictitious anymore.

The only question remaining is - how to transform this enthusiasm for progressive social change and social democratic changes to TRUE socialism
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/tv/ - Product Placement edition

Mind if I put a movie around your advertisement? The cinematographic art form is just flourishing under capitalism.

Hawaii Five-0 (2010–2020):

Power Rangers (2017):

Shark Tank (2009–):

Man of Steel (2013):

Community (2009–2015)

The Thomas Crown Affair (1999):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orLcw_eobRM (slurrrp, gulp, aahhh)

Days of Our Lives (1965–):

The Secret Life of the American Teenager (2008–2013):

Evolution (2001):

Transformers: Age of Extinction (2014):

Designated Survivor (2016–2019):

Sonic The Hedgehog (2020):

Mac and Me (1988):

And the list goes on and on an on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
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Trofim Lysenko

Wikipedia has some wacky shit to say about this man, and I want to know what exactly I have to read to understand his takes on biology. Or maybe some of you have already read him and have some strong opinions you could throw at each other that I can observe.
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Martial Rape Laws

Wtf is is actually true that the DPRK and China make an exemption for martial rape? You’d think they’d easily be able to outlaw it due to their highly centralized governments? If it is true, then I’m honestly gonna stop being a leftist and go full blackpill. (Not a bait thread btw, I’m genuinely freaking out. Also don’t think China is socialist, but I still acknowledge the good things they’ve done, and you’d at least think they’d outlaw rape?
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>live close to where the iron curtain was
>know nobody from an ex-commie country who likes communism
>everybody who is old enough to have witnessed communism says that it was bad
>go to leftypol
>the vast majority are mutts who think that they can't get laid because of capitalism (literally in a thread on /b/ right now)
>ask them any in-depth question, like how collective farming works
>they can't answer it
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Alternative History Channels

Anyone else noticed how these „alternative history channels“ on YouTube are usually eurocentric or right wing?

Anyways, do you know any channels of that type that are Marxist?
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BPQ: Bad Parent Question

ITT we discuss what is to be done about parents who are bad at parenting. Neglecting this aspect of society just leaves it open to Ben Shapiro conservative types.

Tons of parents are either too strict or they are over indulgent. They are abusive or narcissistic, or helicopter parents who micromanage their kids OR they are "busy professionals" who's kids run wild because they "have no time".

The truth is a ton of problems in society are caused by bad parenting, and many people who become parents are unqualified to do so.

How does capitalism impact this and how would socialism/communism deal with this issue?

Is the nuclear family even good or should there be collectivized child rearing?
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News 3/30/21

Taiwan’s KMT leader proposes talk with Chinese Communist Party
According to Chiang, the KMT has kept the lines of communication open with the CCP for better mutual understanding, but it has limited leeway as an opposition party. Any engagement with Beijing must be based on a reformed, Constitution-backed 1992 Consensus, and any shift in cross-strait relations cannot happen without the mandate of the Taiwanese people, CNA quoted him as saying.

Felixstowe's Communist candidate's scathing attack on Tory and Labour party associations 'raking in' £40k covid grants from tax payers
Communists in Suffolk, including Felixstowe's Mark Jones, have challenged one local Conservative association and three local Labour party branches to explain whether they will return a total of £40,000 of public money they have received under Government grants schemes aimed at helping out businesses struggling to survive during the COVID19 pandemic.

France accused of violating international law in Mali air strike that killed 19 civilians
MINUSMA’s report claims that a wedding was being held where the strike hit, with 100 civilians gathered and five armed individuals believed to be militants from the Katiba Serma jihadist group. The military action killed at least 22 people, 19 of whom are thought to be civilians, according to the UN’s findings.

German union calls four-day strike at Amazon sites ahead of Easter
Verdi said the strikes at Amazon’s sites in Rheinberg, Werne, Koblenz, Leipzig and at two locations in Bad Hersfeld signalled an “unofficial start” to wage talks for the retail and mail order industry, which are due to begin in the next few weeks.

Against the odds, Cuba could become a coronavirus vaccine powerhouse
Cuban leader Fidel Castro vowed to build a biotech juggernaut in the Caribbean, advancing the idea in the early 1980s with six researchers in a tiny Havana lab. Forty years later, the communist island nation could be on the cusp of a singular breakthrough: Becoming the world’s smallest country to develop not just one, but multiple coronavirus vaccines.

Myanmar junta deepens violence with new air attacks
Violence in eastern Myanmar, including air raids that drove thousands of members of the Karen ethnic minority to seek shelter across the border in Thailand, deepened Tuesday with new air attacks by the military that seized power from an elected government last month.

SOHR: Turkey’s military build-up in Syria continues
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) has monitored the entry of 20 Turkish vehicles into Syrian territory, loaded with military and logistical equipment via Kafr Losin border crossing with the Iskenderun region, north of Idlib. The column headed to observation posts deployed in the “de-escalation zone.”

UN monitors backtrack on Yemen money-laundering accusations
The experts said in an annual report to the UN Security Council that Yemen’s central bank broke its foreign exchange rules, manipulated the foreign exchange market, and “laundered a substantial part of a $2bn Saudi deposit in a sophisticated money-laundering scheme”.

Saudi crown prince and former UK PM Cameron went on camping trip a year after Khashoggi murder
Former British Prime Minister David Cameron went on a camping holiday with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman more than a year after the murder of Washington Post and Middle East Eye columnist Jamal Khashoggi, according to the Financial Times.

Slovakia’s prime minister is the first world leader to step down over covid controversy
On Sunday, Matovic announced that he would step down as prime minister and swap places with Finance Minister Eduard Heger, a member of his Ordinary People party, “in order for the coalition to continue.”
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Are there any Dengist movements outside of China?

Dengism seems to be rising in popularity, so I wonder if there are any Dengist movements outside of China. I also wonder what a Dengist revolution would look like.
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boomers. what went wrong.

boomers to me are truly the most fascinating generation like imagine experiencing western capitalism at its height and then developing this viscous hatred for anybody who even slightly wants the smallest amount of change.
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post military parades,marches and the likes.

what the title said pls.
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Libertarianism is better than authoritarianism

Libertarianism has been tried a few times, but they weren’t serious countries. Mostly bluffs. And I don’t think government is much better. There are currently 3 genocides going on off the top of my head, and many, many more in the past all because of authoritarianism. So I’d say authoritarianism has had much worse fails than libertarianism.
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What's their secret bros?

How does Estonia balance a flat tax with no state owned business with having free universal healthcare and education and still having a balanced budget?

They have less unemployment than the EU average and 5x the average GPD growth. This shit would be making me into a libertarian if I didn't know that the exact same shit had the opposite effect in Lithuania. How did Estonia do it?

It can't have just have been the Soviet investment, because the same investment was made in all ex-soviet countries and only Estonia prospered to this day
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Are right-wingers going to stop running with this larpy style? leftists do it too but this is so annoying
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The fuck is newnew
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What's the dialectical materialist explanation for schizos?
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Second Thought appreciation thread

How fucking based can Second Thought get?

I used to be an old subscriber of his, where he was still more focused on technical science, before I took a break from social media cancer. I come back and this guy began shooting out socialist redpills like crazy. What the heck happened?

(Obviously, he isn't perfect, but so far no takes that made my brain melt like some of BreadTube. His sharp turn into socialism may also not be best to ease brainwashed Burgers into socialism as other channels may do better. His channel does get a lot of hate now.)

Either way, I appreciate having someone with such reach on our side for basically free.
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News 3/29/21

Economist who pulled Albania out of 1997 anarchy dead at 58
The former prime minister’s family and his governing Socialist party said Fino died Monday in a hospital, where he had been treated for several days after contracting COVID-19. The government declared Monday a day of national mourning, with flags flying at half-staff.

Labor rights leader shot dead in Laguna
A union leader and longtime labor rights activist was killed in the province of Laguna on Sunday, March 28, 3 weeks after the "Bloody Sunday" raids that left 9 activists dead in the Calabarzon region. Calamba City Police said Dandy Miguel was gunned down by a still unidentified man while riding his motorcycle in Barangay Canlubang around 8:45 pm.

Bolivian rights activist slams ‘hypocrisy’ of US over Anez case
Miriam Amancay Colque of the Bartolina Sisa Resistance said the US complained of far-right white supremacists storming the Capitol in Washington but supported their counterparts in Bolivia. She slammed Washington’s support for the Anez regime of “fascists, racists, looters, arsonists and torturers.

PM Oli-led CPN-UML suspends senior leader Madhav Nepal, Vice-chair Rawal from party
Prime Minister K P Sharma Oli-led ruling Communist Party of Nepal-Unified Marxist Leninist (CPN-UML) has suspended senior party leaders Madhav Kumar Nepal and Bhim Rawal, accusing them of carrying out anti-party activities. In two separate letters issued to former prime minister Madhav Nepal and Vice-chairperson Rawal, the party said that they had been suspended from the party’s membership for six months.

Hundreds protest poor economic conditions in Lebanon
The protest was organized by the Lebanese Communist Party with demonstrators carrying banners demanding housing services, education and healthcare services “This country belongs to the working class” and “End capitalism” were among slogans changed by protesters.

Pope sends Julian Assange personal message to his jail cell, partner says
The “kind, personal message” from the head of the Catholic Church was delivered to Assange’s cell by a prison priest, Stella Moris told her Twitter followers on Sunday. Moris did not disclose the content of the missive, but expressed gratitude to Catholics and other Christians campaigning for Assange’s freedom.

Islamist Insurgents Kill Dozens In Attack On Natural Gas Complex In Mozambique
Hundreds of militants last week attacked Palma, a northern coastal city located in Cabo Delgado province that acts as a hub for a vast liquefied natural gas (LNG) project worth tens of billions of dollars. The project, scheduled for completion in 2024, is led by the French energy group Total, and includes industry partners from India, Japan, Mozambique and Thailand.

Siberian Scientists Block ‘Bombshell’ Pollution Report Ahead of Elections – Reports
The Russian Academy of Sciences’ (RAS) Siberian branch reportedly determined that 78% of Russia's two dozen most polluted cities are located in Siberia and linked the findings to increased rates of birth defects, childhood disease and cancers in the region.

Mexico's coronavirus death toll is likely 60% higher than confirmed numbers
Updated figures here on excess mortality in a table published by Mexico's Health Ministry showed that by the end of the sixth week of this year, 294,287 fatalities "associated with COVID-19" had been registered on death certificates in Mexico.

WHO report: COVID likely 1st jumped into humans from animals
A joint World Health Organization-China study on the origins of COVID-19 says that transmission of the virus from bats to humans through another animal is the most likely scenario and that a lab leak is “extremely unlikely,” according to a draft copy obtained by The Associated Press.
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When are they gonna find out?
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Comfy Slav Appreciation Thread

ITT post your comfy slav pics. cute girls a bonus
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2050: Leftist University

The year is 2050 and the government of your country has been 100% taken over by Leftists, however most of the cadres died in the revolution.

You need to train a new generation of thinkers, theorists, and political economists to help guide your country through the transition to socialism, and then communism.

Game: Design a degree with 10 to 20 courses from politics, economics, philosophy, science, math, and any other relevant subjects that they would have to take. This is fake obviously, you can make up anything you want

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What if the August Coup succeeded?

There was a real possibility that had this coup succeeded in 1991 order could've been restored to the USSR and its dissolution averted. What do you think a world in which the USSR still exists as a strong socialist state would look like?
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Science: Zoomers are midwits


>In some European nations, they are facing declining cognitive abilities, especially among the cognitive elites.

According to some study of the UK, Nordic Nations, and the Netherlands, average cognitive ability is declining, esp. at the top end. among young people today compared to previous generations.

Science has confirmed zoomers are a MIDWIT generation.

Why is this the case? Why has the 21st century not produced intellects of the stature of Einstein, Von Neumann, etc.? What is the materialist explanation? Chemical byproducts in the water?
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Young Karl Marx

>Young Karl Marx
Young Karl Marx

Yay or nay?
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ai/deepfake memes/propaganda

i want it all, anon
ur freaky body horror
and impressive realism
so long as it springs forth
from nascent superintelligence
and supports a glorious leftist cause
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how does it?

Brainlet reporting here…..

how does aged wine fit into the labour theory of value?
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abstract labour

I was reading chapter one of das kapital and I just want to make sure that I understood correctly marx's justification for abstract labour.

Two commodities exchange equally regardless of use values.

Only quantities need to change for equal exchange (1 kg of wheat for x kg of iron).

This means that it’s not use values that lead to equal exchange, but rather equal quantities of something common to both.

One common property between all commodities, unrelated to use value, is that they’re all products of labour.

Concrete labour relates to material elements and shapes (the use values of chairs are directly formed by the type of concrete labour, which is labouring to assemble parts of wood).

So if commodities exchange equally regardless of use values, commodities should exchange equally regardless of concrete labour.

So instead, the common property that leads to this equal exchange is abstract labour.
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How come the online right is so weakwilled? It seems like most of the people I meet on various nerdsites tend to be pretty right-wing or at the very least liberal, but I never really see them out and doing anything to further their own causes. Shit they can barely even do basic tasks such as not buying video games that they don't like.
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I keep hearing how /pol/ would never astroturf the rest of the chan boards and how leftypol is astroturfing through discord but has there actually been /pol/ discords that try to astroturf things? I need the sauce.
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Leftypol Wiki now live


It's an open wiki

As a base it uses material from when leftypol raided an alt-rightish place. Made an XML dump of it years ago and the wiki was deleted, so used the lefty articles leftypol made as a base. Have a lot of wiki backups so was happy to find that stuff from the 8ch days.
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Leaving Rural Burgerland

burgerland post but probably applies to all western countries.

Something that is never studied is how youth feel pushed out of rural communities to urban areas because of their social/ political beliefs.

I returned to my rural hometown twice. The first time, I came home for the summer to work at my families' dairy and study for the LSAT. As a youth, I had never noticed how rigid and uptight the older generations of both my family and community were.

After law school, I returned home ready to hang a shingle in my small West Texas town of 35,000. Everywhere I went I heard people using the "n" word and it made me bristle.

I went with my family to church the first Sunday I was back and the preacher was preaching about Satan infiltrating our government through Muslims and how we needed to be prepared for "the last days." I went back a second time and the preacher "had received some disturbing news on Facebook" about how the gay agenda was being pushed on our children through the "lies of science and evolution" at school. I do not remember these sort of messages just a few years ago–it seems that the preacher is channeling Fox News from the pulpit.

But it is not that I despise my former town and friends for their political beliefs. I understand that rural America leans more conservative than urban America–and I am not a person who is uncomfortable being around others with different beliefs. But when I see old friends/ family and they ask me if I "caught the gay" in college because I drive a Prius; or they begin talking about how "Obammy" tried to destroy the country and thank God "Trump is going to make them evil libtards pay" it makes it uncomfortable.

I think what makes many of us run in terror from our rural roots–is seeing how our friends that did not go to college, and stayed around our hometown, have morphed into younger versions of their parents and are carrying concealed handguns "in case the end times come" and many are stockpilling goods and joining prepper and nationalist movements.

Many of these young people thoroughly believe that a war is comming and that it will be between them (they view themselves as true patriots) and urban people who they view as being a danger to America because of their more liberal beliefs.

This fear of "snowflake liberals" or "cuks" has caused these young people to view simple things like recycling, eating vegetarian, or driving an environmentally friendly car as being an act of evil. To many of my childhood friends a person who is gay, a socialist, or a "hippie liberal snowflake" is a person that is trying to destroy the rural way of life.

These younger rural people who never left their small towns often view their former friends who left to go to college as being traitors or "un-American." Much in the same way that a person from an inner city area might be accused of acting "uppity" and "forgetting about the hood"– the person who went off to college in "the city" is often viewed suspiciously.

I decided to permanently leave my hometown after going to a pancake breakfast and my high school basketball coach came up and said that it was probably a good idea if I took my pancakes to go because there were some families who did not feel comfortable with me being there. It turns out that at "prayer group" there had been some concern about whether I supported the "liberal agenda." When I asked why people thought that or were concerned my former coach said: "well people have been seeing you galavanting around in a Prius" and the cashier at the grocery store said that I had been spotted buying organic produce and I brought my own cloth bags which were probably made out of marijuana.

I packed all of my stuff up and left two days later. I told all of my family and friends that I just didnt think I could afford to stay there and they all said how sorry they felt for me having high student loans "because I fell for the governments lie."

I just nodded, hugged them, and drove away.
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Is this the biggest Chad who ever served in the US Marines?

>dissed on Mussolini during the interwar era
>openly rejected a bribe to overthrow the U.S government and install a Fascist dictatorship
>led an army of homeless WW1 vets against MacArthur in D.C
>wrote a book about how war is a racket while also being the most decorated Marine at that point in time
>was a Quaker
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Spain: Protests erupt across country after rapper's arrest

>Spanish rapper Pablo Hasel's arrest has sparked protests in major cities, with critics calling his prosecution an assault on free speech. The artist was convicted for insulting the monarchy and glorifying terrorism.

>Thousands of protesters took to the streets across Spanish cities on Tuesday evening demanding the release of a rapper arrested by police over a series of tweets in a controversial free speech case.

>Police in riot gear stormed a university 150 kilometers (90 miles) west of Barcelona on Tuesday morning and arrested rapper Pablo Hasel, who had barricaded himself inside the campus to avoid jail.

>Later in the day, around 2,000 people rallied in central Barcelona waving banners and placards that said: "Freedom for Pablo Hasel."

>A handful of protesters also set trash cans on fire, erected street barricades, and threw stones, bottles, and firecrackers at the police, chanting slogans such as "Death to the Spanish regime."

>Video footage on Twitter also showed police charging at protesters hurling objects at them, trying to disperse the crowd, in some cases using batons and foam projectiles.

>Several stores and banks were damaged, and police stations in the Catalan capital were vandalized, with windows smashed and spray-paints on the walls.

>The Catalan regional police Mossos d'Escuadra said on Twitter that protesters burned motorbikes and bins, creating barricades and blocking streets in Barcelona, adding that 14 people had been arrested.

Tl;dr a rapper got thrown in jail for insulting the Spanish monarchy and now spain is burning

Article: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/spain-protests-erupt-across-country-after-rappers-arrest/a-56593648

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/4XmNNb63TVo
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Is capitalism incapable of building mass transit?
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The Commissar

>London A.D. 2060
>The techno overlords rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire
>Their war to exterminate the proletariat has raged for decades
>But the final battle would not be fought in the future
>But long ago, in our past
>In 1845…
<The year is 1845
<A Boston Dynamics model hunter-killer assassin unit arrives in a flash of lightning, in the still of night, out on enclosed Docklands; London, England
<Its mission, destroy the writers of the Communist Manifesto, the writers of Capital
<It was designed to drown communism in blood, strangle it in its cradle before it is even born
<Its fiery eyes burn analyzing its surroundings, the primitive architecture and technology
<Only one thing is on its mind, the prime directive, execute the fathers of communism, execute Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
>In a dark and dirty alleyway a flash of light burns apart trash and rubble
>A slim, scarred, and shivering man falls forth
>Tho his body is damaged, his face is cold and hard
>His eyes, however, so warm and soft
>His mission, to protect the founders of the First International, to save the fathers of Marxism and thus secure the victory won by the working class in his future time
Would you give this movie a watch?
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Do you guys really expect to pull off any successful revolutions in the near future?

30 years after the fall of the Soviet Union, revolutionary socialism is the lowest its been in over 100 years. Communist parties in Europe have collapsed or greatly shrunk, communist guerillas in Latin America are almost extinct, Maoist rebels in south and southeast Asia have been gradually losing ground for years now, and most remaining "socialist" states have made capitalist reforms. There has only been one successful "socialist" revolution since the fall of the Soviet Union (in Nepal), but they never really implemented socialism. The vast majority of leftists around the world today are either Dengists or social democrats. Perhaps global warming will give rise to proletarian revolution, but it may very well instead lead to fascism, straight-up human extinction, or both.

That said, do you think that a socialist revolution is a realistic goal? Or is it merely a pipe dream?
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Why are so many modern communists fucking morons?

I just had a thirty minute long argument with people who were insisting the Roman Empire wasn’t imperialist because…because it wasn’t an empire ruled by monopoly finance capital based on the export of usury capital to its colonial possessions.
Just…how the fuck can you argue this? Lenin even directly states that imperialism existed prior to capitalism because, fucking obviously it did. Yet because these retards were told imperialism is a very specific thing that can only occur in a very specific context, they make the genuinely stupid ass argument that empires didn’t exist until the 1800s or that empires are somehow different from imperialism as a general concept.

Just, why does the average tankie and average anarkiddy, at least the online ones, why do they have the mental faculties of fucking slugs? Do they get ALL of their information from other retards on the internet?
And yes, I’m a communist myself, I’m just sick of the fucking balls to the wall stupidity that borders on actual theism, and just like theists, these people quote Marx and Lenin like prophets despite never having read their words, fuck
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Bill Maher: Marxists are indoctrinating


Was just watching Bill Maher and his "liberal" guests on this segment and they were all ranting about how elite private schools are indoctrinating kids with Marxist beliefs and critical race theory, about how Marxism only makes sense if you're a "billionaire's kid". literal Jordan Peterson tier talking points.The guy even went on a rant about how he studied Marxism in college and the elite schools teaching wokeness reminded him of communist cadres.

First off,

1) Is this true? To what extent are radlib ideas being taught in elite prep schools and universities?


2) Why do boomers, even people like Maher's guests who claim to have studied Marx the woman claims her parents were leftists conflate Marxist with post 1980s/90s radlib hyperwoke ideology? Do they not understand what Marxism is or are they just lying or do they just not really care?
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How does one respond to such bs?
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Innumeracy on the left

Is there a a huge problem with innumeracy on the left?

I often wonder why shit like postmodernism and critical theory just get popular because people can't understand the more linear-algebra flavored theory in Marxist economic writings esp. after the 1940s.

People's eyes just sort of gloss over.
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Was the Chinese invasion and occupation of Tibet an act of imperialism? Why can't the Chinese let the Tibetans be a free people?
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French farmers roll tractors up to government buildings and dump SHIT on them

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The split was a mistake

C'mon get your shit together. Why there has to be two bunkerchan? Who cares if bunkerchan filled with faggots maggots transhumanists alt-right or alt-left? You both don't accomplish anything. There was never fight between left & right again, when is clearly that the neolibs cunts controlling us.

Merge both sites, goddammit
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Is it good in analyzing Inequality? I know Cockshott is a big fan of it, but I don't know if I should take the Time to look into it'
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News 3/18/21

French city deploys more police after riots over fatal car crash saw store looted, cars torched & truck rammed into cops
On Tuesday night, officers in Blois, situated southwest of Paris, were pelted with a barrage of fireworks and other objects, while a delivery driver was kicked out of a truck that was then used as a battering ram against police, according to AFP. Officers reportedly fired a dozen shots at the vehicle as it sped away and crashed into a hedge, without causing any injuries.

One million Indian bank employees join two-day national strike against privatisation
About one million public sector bank workers joined a two-day national strike on Monday and Tuesday against the plans by Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government for mergers and privatisations of state banks. Striking workers held protests in several cities across India.

Northern Ireland police arrest man in investigation into bomb-making by 'New IRA' dissidents
Thursday’s arrest was part of a “discrete, stand-alone strand” of the PSNI’s main operation targeting the New IRA, called Operation Arbacia, which is a joint security effort to curb the activities of the group and to arrest members who commit illegal acts.

Lebanese President calls for PM to step aside as food shortages start to bite
Supermarkets have been forced to close early with some shutting their doors for 24 hours as supplies start to run low. Video footage has been circulating showing people fighting over groceries with head of the foodstuffs importers syndicate Hani Bohsali estimating the country has two months of supplies left.

Turkey: Chief prosecutor files lawsuit to close pro-Kurdish HDP party
Bekir Sahin, chief public prosecutor of the Supreme Court of Appeals, said in an indictment submitted to the Constitutional Court that the HDP, "through the actions and statements of its members", had attempted "to destroy the inseparable unity of the Turkish state and the nation".

Denmark plans to limit 'non-western' residents in disadvantaged areas
In the bill – a review of existing legislation on combatting “parallel societies” – the interior ministry proposed that the share of residents of “non-western” origin in each neighbourhood be limited to a maximum of 30% within 10 years.

Caravan against blockade against Cuba in Russia
The activist, who heads the Russian Committee to Fight for the Elimination of the Blockade against Cuba, explained to Prensa Latina that an aerostat with the image of Commander Ernesto 'Che' Guevara will take off from the city of Zhukovsky, in the Moscow region, if the weather permits it.

Coronavirus eroded China’s middle class, but India has fared much worse, new findings reveal
Pandemic has forced about 32 million people out of India’s middle class, accounting for 60 per cent of everyone who retreated from the middle class globally Most of world’s middle-class drop-off took place in Asia, while middle-class populations in developed economies rose as higher-income groups lost wealth

EU agency: AstraZeneca vaccine safe, will add clot warning
The European Union’s drug regulatory agency said Thursday that the AstraZeneca vaccine is not linked to an overall increase in the risk of blood clots and that the benefits of use outweigh the risks, paving the way for European countries to resume administering the shots.

John Magufuli: Tanzania's president dies aged 61 after Covid rumours
Opposition politicians said last week that he had contracted Covid-19, but this has not been confirmed. Mr Magufuli was one of Africa's most prominent coronavirus sceptics, and called for prayers and herbal-infused steam therapy to counter the virus.
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Apologies for post deletions

Hello everyone, unfortunately one of the mods made an error and accidentally deleted a large amount of posts, so we had to roll back to our backup (5am UTC). This means that all posts since then (about 45 minutes) were deleted, we understand this is frustrating but it was a lot less posts to delete than the original mistake. We will try to look into ways to prevent this happening again and be more careful in future. Thanks everyone.
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Change my mind

I don't get it. How can arts or even innovation or creativity shall exist under socialism. You all act according collective consciousness. Like a horde of sheeple. There's no differences, variations, & distinction between you at all (whether products or services).

I clearly don't see anything bright or interesting from socialism, anarchism, or any forms of leftism.
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News 3/26/21

India’s workers take part in nationwide strike, led by the farmers
Farmers have been protesting for four months against new labour codes that will see their incomes slashed by big business. The new legislation also makes sackings easier, increases the working day to 12 hours and makes it more difficult for workers to go on strike.

Naxalite Squad Raids Road Construction Site In Kondagaon District
The incident took place at around 1 am in Kuemari village in the Dhanora police station limits where a road is being built between Batrali and Cherbeda under the Prime Minister Gram Sadak Yojna (PMGSY) scheme, Inspector General of Police (Bastar Range) Sundarraj P said.

Palestine elections: Israel arrests Hamas leaders in West Bank
Israeli forces arrested three prominent Hamas leaders in the occupied West Bank city of Hebron on Friday morning, Palestinian news sources reported. The arrests come as Palestinian political factions are preparing for Palestinian Authority (PA) legislative elections on 22 May, in which the Hamas movement is expected to win a majority of seats in parliament amid splits inside the rival Fatah movement and PA leadership.

Yemen rebels hit, set ablaze fuel tank in south Saudi Arabia
A fuel tank at an oil facility in Saudi Arabia caught fire after being struck in an attack by Yemen’s Houthi rebels, officials said Friday, an attack that came on the sixth anniversary of the kingdom’s entry into Yemen’s yearslong civil war.

Saudi accused of threat to Khashoggi UN investigator is human rights chief
Awwad al-Awwad is alleged by a person familiar with the matter to have twice threatened to “take care of” Callamard at a January 2020 meeting with senior human rights officials in Geneva. The Guardian first reported news of the threats earlier this week following an interview with Callamard in which she recalled being alerted to the threats by her UN colleagues

Record deaths from Covid-19 are ‘worst genocide’ in Brazil’s history, and President Bolsonaro is to blame – ex-leader Lula
“If he had a bit of dignity, he would have apologized to the families of the 300,000 Covid dead and millions of infected people. He is responsible for that,” said Lula. “Brazil can’t stand it any longer if this man continues to govern like this.”

Argentina leaves Lima Group, says bloc's Venezuela policies have 'led to nothing'
Argentina said on Wednesday it would withdraw from the “Lima Group” of Latin American nations, blasting the regional bloc’s policy of isolating Venezuela under President Nicolas Maduro and noting it has “led to nothing.”

Russia to Deepen Ties With Myanmar Military Junta, Top Defense Official Says in First Visit After Coup
Russia and Myanmar are deepening their defense ties as Moscow’s military supplies continue to pour into the country, Russian Deputy Defense Minister Alexander Fomin said Friday at a meeting with the country’s commander-in-chief Min Aung Hlaing.

Authorities to investigate parents after group of Russian kids kneel in snow to protest their village not having its own school
The local prosecutor’s office in the Russian region of Tatarstan has begun an investigation after children held a protest to complain about having no school nearby, poor infrastructure, and little transport accessibility. According to Ruslan Galiev, a media spokesman for the Tatarstan general prosecutor, the regional authorities are aware of the infrastructure issues but “consider it unacceptable to involve children in such actions.”

One of Earth’s giant carbon sinks may have been overestimated - study
Soils and the plants that grow in them absorb about a third of the carbon emissions that drive the climate crisis, partly limiting the impact of fossil-fuel burning. Rising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere can increase plant growth and, until now, it was assumed carbon storage in soils would increase too.
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Socialist parties in the US worth joining?

I’ll tell you the truth, I had a long conversation with my parents where they more or less called me out for being a fucking coward that has beliefs I do absolutely nothing with. And they’re right, having communist beliefs and sitting with them is fucking cowardly, and I’m sick of being this way, I want to make a real difference, a communist who does nothing should have no right to call himself a communist. I’ just looked up US communist parties but the list was so long, can anyone narrow down a decent party that’s actually helping people?
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Why was the leadership of the Soviet Union and the states inspired by it so damn old? Brezhnev, Mao and Chernenko all had obvious cognitive decline near the end of their tenure, just to name the most obvious examples. What are the structural forces that turn the executive committees of ML parties into care homes? Were power struggles really decided "when the octogenarians year olds summoned the septuagenarians to decide which 60 year olds should retire?"

Yes I know the USA has now also become a gerontocracy, with Biden, Pelosi, and McConnell all nearly 80. This fact doesn't invalid my original question.
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News 3/27/21

CPM Leader Sushanta Ghosh Attacked During 1st Phase Of Bengal Polls
During the first phase of West Bengal assembly elections, the Communist Party of India (Marxist) candidate for the Salboni constituency, Sushanta Ghosh, was attacked by unknown men. Mr Ghosh was attacked at Salboni by unidentified men before being escorted away by security.

Communist Party backs Steve Turner to lead Unite
The committee highlighted Mr Turner’s lead in campaigns to preserve manufacturing and develop green jobs, his battles against racism and inequality, his organising of young workers and his leading role in negotiating the furlough scheme during Covid.

Amid escalating violence, Myanmar’s armed insurgents warn of action as clamour grows for ‘federal army’ to defend civilians
The RCSS, which operates near the border with Thailand, joined a growing list of Ethnic Armed Organizations (EAO) who have condemned the February 1 coup and pledged to stand with protesters. It had previously stated that it would shelter and support victims fleeing from the violence.

UK protesters scuffle with police during rally over new law
Hundreds of demonstrators against the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill staged a sit-down protest outside a police station in the southwest England city on Friday night, and some scuffled with officers in helmets and shields who tried to break up the gathering.

Landmark win for women in Asda pay fight
The judge said that the ruling does not mean that the shopworkers have won the right to equal pay, but that their success in the case means that they are now free to take further action.

Baguio court stops cops from Red-tagging student activists
A Baguio court has prohibited the Cordillera police from posting social media commentary or putting up tarpaulins that portray four University of the Philippines Baguio students and graduates as communists and terrorists.

Iran and China sign 25-year cooperation deal
Iran and China on Saturday signed a 25-year "strategic cooperation" agreement as Beijing expands its trillion-dollar Belt and Road Initiative."Our relations with Iran will not be affected by the current situation, but will be permanent and strategic," Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi was quoted by Iranian news agencies as saying.

‘Gangster-like logic’: North Korea rejects Biden’s missile launch criticism, points to Washington’s own saber-rattling
“It’s a gangster-like logic that it is allowable for the US to ship the strategic nuclear assets into the Korean peninsula and launch ICBMs any time it wants but not allowable for the DPRK, its belligerent party, to conduct even a test of a tactical weapon,” senior North Korean official Ri Pyong-chol said in statement on Saturday.

Switzerland Not To Investigate Venezuelan Diplomatic Envoy
Saab's investigation was submitted to the Money Laundering Reporting Office Switzerland (MROS) based on 22 accounts linked to the Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS). "There is, as it stands, no further evidence to further investigate the charge and the public prosecutor's office will move to discontinue these criminal proceedings," the sentence reads.

Debate on elections postponement in Chile on the rise
More than 15 million Chileans will have to attend 'mega-elections' on April 10th and 11th to select regional governors, mayors, councilors and the 155 members of the convention that will draft the country's new Constitution.

Permanent Peoples’ Tribunal Tries State Terrorism in Colombia
This Italy-based tribunal was convened by over 150 humanitarian and social organizations. Bogota, Medellin, and Bucaramanga are the cities where the international ethical judges will hear testimonies on genocide, impunity, and crimes against the Peace process.

Russia Sees Record High Average Temperatures in 2020: Institute
Russia's average annual temperature last year was 3.22 degrees Celsius higher than the average for the period of 1961-1990 and more than one degree higher than the country's previous record in 2007, Rosgidromet said in a report released Thursday.
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The Bangladesh refugee camp inferno and capitalism’s global war on migrants
>The responsibility for Monday’s terrible fire rests not just with the ruling elites in Bangladesh and Myanmar, but with the ruling classes around the world, who have shut their borders and vilified immigrants.

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Unions form a distinct, hostile class to the proletariat

I had this naive image in mind that unions are labor activists mobilizing against exploitative corporate practices. What I witnessed opened my eyes to the realities on ground, that seemed like almost opposite. As usual, life is more complicated!
* The objective of trade unions is not to protect workers and improve their conditions (at least directly). It’s to protect themselves.

* In every organization, there exists people with diverse attributes: capabilities, attitudes towards work/life, etc. There are always people who don’t want to or can’t work; and guess what they do? They join unions to protect themselves. Over time union center became international house of suckers and weirdos, each worse than the other.

* In an effort to protect themselves, unions politicized the work environment. They put themselves everywhere in key committees, including a union committee having last word on hirings and firings. That made them unfirable. They exploited the coronavirus situation, to blame employers and opponents. A scientific project can become a playground for union politics. I believe in climate change, but not in politicizing it. They seize every opportunity to attack employers and those not aligned with them. The goal is to use any chance to perpetuate an image that they protect people.

* Union will plot against any excellence in organization. To minimize contrast, they work hard to fail good people and projects around, or portray them as worker-abusers (ie, the reason that they succeed is because they abuse people).

* Unions will fiercely defend status quo and do not allow any constructive reform. The area of specialty that they advertised for themselves was an ancient technology from 1980s (and even that they wouldn’t do it). Every time people suggested to reform the department activities, they refused the proposals. You may not believe it, but department told them, OK, you can keep doing your own activities, we don’t reform them, but other people can start projects in orthogonal directions not related to yours. They still refused (they didn’t want competition) and basically forced everyone to work on their ancient advertised area of activity.

* Union engaged in all sorts of abusive practices. It was disgusting to see a lot of them rarely showed up at work (which was strange considering that they put themselves in various committees). I asked a department manager (“responsable”) how come this or that guy shows up at work only few times a year. He said, if you are a known member of union you can do that, and this is an issue in France. They yell, and bully people, create a toxic environment for others, repel and fire those not blending in etc,

* Union members felt very entitled and justified their actions by making themselves believe a skewed view of the world. They felt that they are entitled to a life even with ZERO work, and world owes to them.

* Unions will be perpetually on strike. What makes you think they will be happy with a laid back 9-5 job with decent pay and great benefits? Even with no work, they still go on strikes. They take tax money from society with little contribution, and make your commute and life periodically miserable.

* Unions are especially problematic in public sector, where incentives are aligned with cronyism not meritocracy. A lot of people are hired who lack abilities to perform the work in question. They form large powerful unions.
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This thread will be dedicated to the upcoming Feb 7 elections in Ecuador.

The three main contenders are
Andres Arauz (Correista, so socdem but antiimperialism pilled)
Guillermo Lasso (literal comprador porky)
Yaku Perez (cringe indigenous idpol candidate)

The stakes of these elections, besides governing a country of 17 million people:

-Possibility of further breaking the blockade in Venezuela
-Some benefits for Cuba
-Possibility to definitely affirm the rebirth of leftism in Latin America as a force in ascent
-(Maybe) Some more support for Peruvian leftist candidates in the upcoming elections in April

And last but not least the possibility of making some Porklets somewhere shake in their boots as stated by Bloomberg in this article:

Hoping this thread will get busy and good as the Bolivian one pre-split was.
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where were u when amerikkka develop machine learning ai program that deliberately targets civilians for drone strikes
i was sitting at home when phone rang
"ur ded"
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Nostalgia for something you never experienced

Is there a word for this? Like zoomers jerking off to 80s music or fashoids romanticizing sears catalog photos (or maybe 19th century art depicting medieval times).

Do the krauts have some sort of word for this I don't know about? they're ususally good at these types of things (ex: Schadenfreude)
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Are the proletariat the revolutionary subject anymore?

The peasantry and lumpenproletariat even have played larger roles in more than a few successful historic revolutions. The theoretically most revolutionary class should be the proletarians though. Why is it that places whether historically or not with actual large proletarian classes have not been at the forefront of historic world revolutions? Should the focus be shifted to peasantry or certain marginalized progressive movements, for example the queer and antiracist movements, so some say? Does the metaphysic about labour have to be scrapped?
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Liberal Meets World

A thread for moments when liberals discover through research something painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain.

In today's episode, liberal academics, after undertaking several studies have found that wage is a more motivating factor for employment than company philanthropy. Furthermore, they found that wages are similarly better at motivating workers. These findings are sure to send shockwaves through the academic world.

>Corporate philanthropy is not as successful at attracting and motivating workers as several recent studies have shown, according to new research, with company charity often coming out of potential wages in order to avoid cutting into profits.

>In a study published in the March edition of Games and Economic Behavior, researchers found that higher wages are up to five times more effective at attracting employees than increased corporate philanthropy, and wages are similarly more effective at motivating workers to be more productive.
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Actions of Gavrilo Princip

Sorry for a silly question but,

What is the Marxist/material explanation for Princip's assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand? Was the assassination driven by nationalism, and is that in itself a result of class conflict?
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Why shouldn't I be able to inherit 200k of my parents monies?
>You didn't work for it
But they did and chose to pass it down.