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I just met a girl on the street. She had quite a few piercings (even a septum piercing) and she looked a little bit boyish. She wore a flannel shirt, baggy black jeans, a studded belt and Doc Martens. She was really chill and she does animation as well. She likes anime, especially Full-Metal Alchemist. She is the daughter of one of my dad's breeder friends. But it feels unlikely that i would meet her again soon. What would I do?



 

Starting the first bi thread since nobody else has yet.

Post about your bi panic and shit here.
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>>7981 (me)
Fuck it the answer seems to be poly(sexual), wasted more hours in vain again trying to find some fucking nuanced terms for the zones in the bisexuality spectrum on the countless LGBTQ+ webpages that exists… NO LUCK AGAIN!
This will be my conclusion for now:
Poly (hey, people may misunderstand me to referring to polyamory if not followed by a full description of the genders I'm attracted to, I guess that's a confusion that has to be added to the equation). Kinsey scale 2; more non-obvious terminology that only works intuitively for the nerds

I guess that will do for now, maybe someone replies, maybe they dont


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>>7983
I lied, I didn't stop reading this time because I'm on a mission
It aint over til the conclusion's been struck

I ended up on these more specified wikis, reconnecting to the finsexual advice (was it you that gave it in a thread some time ago?)

Went to these:
https://lgbtqia.fandom.com
https://lgbtqia.wiki
Here they're using three different terms for apparently the same concept:
gynesexual, femsexual and more rarely finsexual
https://lgbtqia.fandom.com/wiki/Gynesexual / https://lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Femsexual / https://lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Finsexual
Questions arise:
  1. Which systems decide which terms get used over others? Some of the pages redirect the terms they deprioritize to their preferred term.
  2. Femsexual and Finsexual appear under the category "Fia/Fin Attraction", here defined as " attraction to: women, women-aligned genders (fiaspec), woman-related genders, feminine-aligned genders (fingenders), or femininity (presentation)". It is itself described as a subcategory of "Gia/Gin Attraction", here defined as "attraction to specific giaspec (gender and gender presentation) identities". Thus, since Gia/Gin (a particular system?) has subbranches for non-binary genders spectrums, here called neusexual and referenced in tandem with femsexual, I guess this is a pairing solution that will solve the question.
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>>7984 (me)
> Which systems decide which terms get used over others? Some of the pages redirect the terms they deprioritize to their preferred term.
Anyone got any input on this?

>>8008
I don't know but if you want conversation I will ask you to never use gynesexual (you don't want currently at least) for yourself since I like to use androsexual for myself in the sense of attraction to men (cis or not) and not attraction to masculinity and so both definitions collide
If you want a system I would prioritise words that are correctly formed with classical roots over ill-formed ones and specially over ones formed with english roots
Maybe you could make up a word and say gynaikeiosexual? (γυναικειος means feminine). I don't really understand the difference between androgyny, agender, neutrois and all that but I would recommend you to say "neutrosexual" rather than "neusexual" since it's better formed and is more transparent



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https://www.wearequeeraf.com/the-gallae-transgender-priestesses-of-ancient-rome/
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>>7956
>>7955
Is this “third gender” just a quirky flavor of female hood or actual third gender?
Because most “gender non-conforming” folk are usually into female aesthetics.

>>7975
This is where things get thorny. In South Asian languages, there isn't really a word for "gender." There's no distinction between sex and gender which is important to keep in mind. Islamic law distinguishes between male, female, and "khuntha" based on genitalia. Khuntha isn't a monolith but an ambiguous umbrella term with a dozen different subtypes. Hijra are included in the khuntha category and local culture sees them as neither men nor women. Just as men and women have different social roles, responsibilities, and place in the pecking order. Khuntha have to follow their own 'gendered' rules e.g. khuntha's have their own funeral rituals, have to stand in between women's and men's rows during prayers, and have their own inheritance laws. Islamic theology traditionally saw khunthas as miraculous acts of God who are born the way they are. Because of this, hijra are often seen as having a divine favor. Despite this, they are quite badly discriminated against these days and their status in indigenous culture isn't always enshrined in post-colonial laws.

There's a NGO cottage industry to try to get them to identify as transgender. Overall, the hijra have declined because transgender is becoming more fashionable. Its seen as modern and civilized, while hijra are seen as backward failed transgenders.

tldr they are a third sex but whether they are non conforming depends on how you look at them. In conservative Islamic culture they aren't non-conforming.

>>7976
>be born with deformed penis
>it's divine favor
>cherished by the community

Feels good man pepe image

>>7976
And modern conservatives wanna claim that “there are only two genders”.
More proof that modern conservatism (1600 - present) is historical revisionism

All religion can fuck off. Substitute religion for national culture as was done in Albania. Convert all religious sites of worship into museums and cultural centres, if religoids continue to misuse these centres then they must be demolished. Being religious should be a thought crime, same as being a liberal or conservative. Public execution of religious figures.



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I’ve been out (trans woman) for around a decade now and throughout most of those years I’ve had a generally bad taste in my mouth for gay men. the majority of the ones I’ve met through organizing have been useless, the ones I’ve met through ‘queer groups’ have been insufferable, a weird amount are landlords. They just seem like a completely soulless people the majority of the time. Almost a mimicry of a person.

Whats the deal with gay men? Why are they like that?
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>>8001
If its any consolation I don’t like men in general

simple, you envy all the gay sex they are having

[spoiler]also for most fags, being gay is entirely sexual, because they come from privileged backgrounds and their existence, aside from lacking an heir, doesn't attack the patriarchal superstructure as overtly[/spoiler]

Does homophobia make you feel a cis-woman (they are allowed to not be woke) and give you euphoria?

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This thread might just be the most blatant falseflag to ever falseflag, congrats!

>>8001
My first reaction as well. You can bet this "person" has spent most of their formative years on 4chan.
>>8002
>Yes, and […]
*Spit*



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Why do "left-wing" influencers and politicians absolutely REFUSE to do even the slightest bit of research into trans people? Especially the ones who regularly debate rightoids, who are guaranteed to bring it up every single conversation without exception, you'd think they would want to be prepared for that, but they never are. They just concede to their nonsense and then go on to parrot fascist narratives about trans people as if they're fact. Especially frustrating when it's the type of essay or debate Youtuber who normally does tons of research into whatever they're discussing, but completely drops the ball when it comes to trans people.
Why? Why are they allergic to researching this topic? Why do they trust the word of perpetual liars and bigots on this one specific topic? It's so utterly baffling. Are they being paid to delegitimize the trans movement? I'd expect this kind of thing from liberals, but are 99% of "leftists" really so devoid of morals that they'd participate in such corruption? I can't think of any other explanatoon that explains how widespread this is.

>>7990
I hope you don't think Gavin Newsom is left-wing.

>Why do "left-wing" influencers and politicians absolutely REFUSE to do even the slightest bit of research into trans people? Especially the ones who regularly debate rightoids

Who exactly are you talking about? It is very likely you are going off on some debate bros that don't even consider themselves to be leftists in the first place.

>>7993
>I hope you don't think Gavin Newsom is left-wing.
Obviously not, he's a far-right nutjob who ran as a Democrat because he lives in California. When I mentioned politicians I was mostly thinking of my own country, which isn't the USA. Still, I often hear talk of new blood Democrats being hyped up as "progressive" while seeming to behave the way I described, with Mamdani being a notable exception.
>>7994
>It is very likely you are going off on some debate bros that don't even consider themselves to be leftists in the first place.
I would say people like Destiny and Soypill consider themselves leftists, though the former is arguably a liberal. And then you have mainstream personalities like John Oliver who do seem to actually do the research, only to interpret it in the most bad faith manner possible, then say things like "it's perfectly reasonable to continue treating transgenders as second class citizens until the evidence is compelling enough to convince fascists otherwise".

>>7999
Where did John Oliver say that? Post the video and timestamp.



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Help me choose a girl name for myself. I have some ideas for a few names already but i don’t know if any of them are good or not.

>claire

it sounds very elegant and dainty, which I like. But I’m worried it might be too much of a stereotypical transgirl name like Alice.

>Vivian

I think it sounds unique and cool while also sounding a bit elegant aswell. But maybe it’s too weird. I also don’t want people to think I named myself after Vivian Medrano (creator of hazbin hotel)

>Jessica

More common and sounds nice, but not as classy as the others

>Stormy

I think it sounds very cute but I’m worried it sounds too much like a pet name

>Pamilla

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>>7911
>Sapphire
sounds low-key clocky or like a stripper pseudonym

https://www.ncertbooks.guru/scientific-name-of-flowers/
>naively scrolls down the page
<"Clitoria: Clitoria ternatea"
<"Cocks comb: Celosia cristata"
its like that TikTok meme of someone looking around and seeing overly sexual names of things and being shocked

>>7912
Couldn't have said it better. Sounds like the name of a ghetto trans prostitute, unironically.

>>7223
Well, you've already gotten pushback on feminizing your current name, which is what I would've done, so my only other idea is to ask your parents what they would've named you had you been a girl. I know mine picked Zoe(y?)

>>7223
>worried Claire might be too much of a stereotypical transgirl name
>sees no problem with Vivian, literally one of the most well known transgirls in fiction
I think Claire is my personal favourite of the names you presented. Never really thought of it to be stereotypical.



 

In fact, both the right and the left have the same opinion about us, they just have different views.

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>>7907
Because if gender is an abstract, a set of styles, aesthetics, and attitudes that are subjective enough not to be bound by biology, one has to than admit the oppression therein is baseless. Meaning incels are right, the black pill is right, and it really is all "women"'s fault because what than is a woman besides a self proclaimed status symbol because you're conventionally attractive?

This is why tankies and fascists alike stereotype you as just porn addicted. I'm not saying you personally are, but it forces you to admit this is the case for many.

Or you can just pretend to be outraged because God forbid we cut the nonsense out. Like what would you personally like to see out of more people OP? Here I am, a hetero normative male, and I am acknowledging you as a woman. Are you happy? Would you be happy if i also said you were an attractive woman? How about if a lot of men did so? I can't promise you every man would, but let's assume the majority. What is this actually about for you?(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)

>>7910
Never took a social science course in your life, I take it?
Your claim that the social construction of (social) facts does not have social consequences falls at the first hurdle in that social facts are exactly only real in their (social) consequence. To put it in another way: women are not women because of any (sub)set of signifiers, but are women because of their treatment based on those signifiers.

If you struggle with this, I recommend re-reading Theses on Feuerbach until lightning strikes.

>>7910
> if gender is an abstract, a set of styles, aesthetics, and attitudes
Engels saw gender and family relations in the context of social relations with regards to capital formation.
>Meaning incels are right
scratch a liberal and you'll find a fascist, everytime lmao
>Here I am, a hetero normative male, and I am acknowledging you as a woman
<Women's work is generally unpaid or paid less than "men's work" and is not as highly valued as "men's work"
>What is this actually about for you?
zero historical materialism Christoid thinks his alienated goy cattle love being slaves and merely want his Elliot Rogers class of PMC eugenics farm managers to correctly milk the correct type of feminine commodities or male commodities.

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>OP picrel is pointing out the idiocy of so called "progressives" falling for the grift that biology is immutable
>Threads discussion is instead about the influence of social constructs
Both of these are meaningful, but I really fucking wish people would talk more about the first one instead of always arguing for trans rights from the perspective that all the fascist narratives are true.

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Twitter poisoning thread



 

I had to go back to school and my middle school enemies were there making fun of my conetits and my hoodie
so i stopped by a store to buy a tramontina knife which i held in my hand hoping they'd give me a reason to use it.
but then i rembered i forgor my papres and i had to stop to a cyber cafe to print some more, but when i arrived there were trans puppygirls playing Gundam or smn and the owner who was also a puppygirl had a snake with no skin on it's head so it was like just a skull headed snake.
and they said i looked like a school shooter and wanted to run a lie detector with the snake on me because my knife pierced my hoodie and now i had a knife just poking out my hoodie, and i said nothing but the truth but the snake still bit me, so i woke up and now i can't sleep.
imma do some stretchings.
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>>7952
skill issue

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>>7972

that's it i'm getting the sack

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What the fuck did I just read?!?!

>>7980

a dream i had a couple weeks ago

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>>7988
That’s no dream, it’s a drug trip



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Do you remember when you realized you were gay or trans?
For me it was these bowflex infomercials. I think I got my first boner to one of them and I still use fitness influencers as my primary 'bate material. And it was then that I realized that I was gay for other men.
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I found out I was bisexual when I had sex with a transvestite, but I have a strong preference for feminity hence trans inclusion, non trans men rarely look or act feminine so I'm basically straight and don't really identify with the LGBT culture although I sympathize.

i found out that i was bisexual when i fell in love with a boy in my high school, i never got to talk to him since he left the school and never returned

i'm bi - i still don't know how to process the fact that my sexual awakening was caused by a gay furry chiptune musician from the late 2000s/early 2010s

I'm cis and bisexual so there wasn't really a turning point but more of an escalation, from finding boy characters in cartoons cute when I was a kid, to finally making out with a dude in my early 20s.

I lied to myself about being straight for my entire life. I just kinda pushed the question of attraction to the same sex, or anybody trans, to the back of my mind. It's really easy for a man to do this if he's attracted to women, don't you think? Unless he couldn't get any and was desperate for any kind of romantic attention.

I read some post online one day where someone described the idea of being attracted to either some degree of femininity or masculinity and it just completely clicked. You can hide a part of yourself from others. Especially if it's not necessary for self expression. But hiding it from yourself? That doesn't work long term.



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looking for suggestions on clothing/outfits that are androgynous and preferably not too expensive. got any ideas anons?

i tend to like tighter fitting/heavy clothes (autism?) but don't want to be perceived as a woman

pictures please!
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>>6067
lol ok retard, i dont think adhd is to blame for you not wanting to take e bc of your retarded ideals

>>6068
lmfaoo

>>6069
I never even mentioned adhd lol, it has nothing to do with my problems you retard
>>6068
No i cant take hrt because im not trans, i dont want boobs

>>6077
>you retard
this insult really loses weight considering all the shit youve posted itt that makes you seem like a barely functional autist who cant even tie their shoes together without bemoaning and giving up lol

>im not trans

sure thing buddy

>>5076
>>5240
I have been through different phases with clothes in a non corporate context (I'm a caregiver so I don't need to dress up). Typically loose shorts, tees, accessorised with headsock or bandana. Leggings under shorts. Small personalisation like nail varnish or pendants can feel "right" at times. I like the idea of a tunic or djellaba type dress shirt but I'm not ready to take on this expression just yet. I did wear a long grey skirt for a while but it wasn't super comfortable - too tight waist! I would experiment again with skirts and try kilts in the future.
t. queer / gay / asexual / cis male

Resurrecting (I'm not OP), I need info and inspo. How the fuck do I search clothing by type and have a lot of options for torso/jackets that aren't PLASTIC SLOP?



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