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 No.1773788[Reply]

I named those subs as the places in my experience you're the most likely to meet "developed" patsocs, imo they represent the two faces of patsoc, nationalist "socialists" that long ago embraced specifically negative integration strategies to get western proles on board for "socialism" (enhanced welfare) that is stupidpol, and the intense cultural chauvinism and nearly mask off fascists that are RSP; see I realize something, these people, in an ideological sense, are like the original fascists but as farce

See, communists get too into the reeds in their rivalry with the fascists to the point that we forget, the original fascists mutated out of fringe interwar socialist parties; the OG fascists pretended to be socialists for quite a long time, even the only true revolutionaries

In every way, patsoc, and a lot of the anti-idpol left, are more ideologically fash than polfags, they've literally reconstructed fascist ideology piece-meal accidentally, vs polfags that are just normal brain dead bigots
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>>1774533
<She also described her cohort as a bunch of “libertines,” and on her podcast you can get a window into a world of people who enjoy a mind-bendingly ironic thrill by tut-tutting each other for missing church or having premarital sex. “Most of the girls downtown are normal, but…
Salò is about these people, btw
>>1774274
Excellent post. I really like how you laid this all out. Specifically the hastiness of socialists (especially American ones) to get something done (usually something that benefits them directly). Maturing as a socialist is understanding that we're all in hell and to "do communism" means to pick up a plastic dinner fork and start digging a tunnel with a bunch of other losers (the majority of the world's population ;) to mention Salò again, the original ending was going to be a red flag waving in the wind with "love you" as text over it. Of course, this was only a "reward" for the carnage you have to go through in the film itself. I think that was the point he was trying to make.

 No.1815493

Boring OP >>1773788
Go watch anime

Lukacs, The Destruction of Reason
>In contrast to Germany, the U.S.A. had a constitution which was democratic from the start. And its ruling class managed, particularly during the imperialist era, to have the democratic forms so effectively preserved that by democratically legal means, it achieved a dictatorship of monopoly capitalism at least as firm as that which Hitler set up with tyrannic procedures. This smoothly functioning democracy, so-called, was created by the Presidential prerogative, the Supreme Court’s authority in constitutional questions, the finance monopoly over the Press, radio, etc., electioneering costs, which successfully prevented really democratic parties from springing up beside the two parties of monopoly capitalism, and lastly the use of terroristic devices (the lynching system). And this democracy could, in substance, realize everything sought by Hitler without needing to break with democracy formally. In addition, there was the incomparably broader and more solid economic basis of monopoly capitalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_in_My_Eye_(book)
>My insistence upon the nonimportance of ideology indeed rests squarely upon this point: that most of the fascist intellectuals were reacting to the uprootedness and social disintegration of the particular moment, and with each change in the face of this state of affairs they were in large part forced to repudiate most of their former ideology. Weight is given to this observation by the fact that early fascism included an amalgam of expressionists, anarcho-syndicalists, futurists, Hegelian idealists, theoretical syndicalists, nationalists and, in the case of the Spanish Falange, intellectual anarchists.
>[…]
>But the final reason why the importance of ideology in fascism must be denied is the fact that it exists in more than one form. In fact, historically it has proved to have three different faces. One “out of power” that tends almost to be revolutionary and subversive, anticapitalist and antisocialist. One “in power but not secure”—this is the sensational aspect of fascism that we see on screenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1815495

>>1776445
>>Now communism professes to derive its driving force from the will of the workers to overthrow the rule of the owners of property, and substitute that rule with the dictatorship of the proletariat. As a matter of fact, of course, communism in operation has been a series of phenomena whose driving force has been derived from two main sources: First, the personal motivations, too complex always for brief analysis, of the initiating leaders-motivations springing from a sense of frustration under the existing order, feeling that this order was evil, and the love of power common to so many strong men; and, second, Russian patriotism, which was captured and mobilized by these initiating leaders of communism, exactly as French patriotism was captured and mobilized by a Corsican second lieutenant of artillery and soldier of fortune.
Yo uh, as a bisexual transhumanist why is this so gay? like this is so fucking gay lmfao do they realize how gay they sound?

 No.1815538

>>1773791
Thread should have ended here.

 No.1820902

I mean you're right. I think idpol is important for any labor movement regardless if communist or not. Identity politics is just a different dimension of liberation than of the working class.



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 No.1813461[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Judeo-bolshevism conspiracies are so 20th century, now we blaming communism creation on Islam homies 😎

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
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Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/3/8/israels-war-on-gaza-live-60000-pregnant-women-face-malnutrition-in-gaza

Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-march-09-2024/ (trigger warning)
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>>1813461
>>1813621
>>1813706
>>1816182

>This just in…

Zionism is Kosher Fascism

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>>1818588
This is actually quite accurate.
MENA communists literally flipped 180 degrees after the USSR fell to support US liberalism. Only a tiny bit didn't.
From one political idol to another, without the capacity to read and think for themselves mostly.



 No.1816949[Reply]

Palestinian prisoner Walid Daqqah dies in Israeli occupation prison
After spending 38 years imprisoned by the Israeli occupation, the Palestinian revolutionary organizer and thinker, Walid Daqqah died at age 62. Daqqah was diagnosed with bone marrow cancer in December 2022 and also suffered from chronic lung disease. Activists and left groups maintain that Daqqah was killed by intentional medical neglect by Israeli prison authorities.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2024/04/07/palestinian-prisoner-walid-daqqah-dies-in-israeli-occupation-prison/

After kidnapping, senior Lebanese Forces official found dead in Syria
The kidnapping and subsequent killing of a local official of the Lebanese Forces (LF), one of the largest Christian political parties in Lebanon, over the weekend has caused outrage and sparked sectarian tensions in the country, which is already at a boiling point due to the ongoing conflict between the Shiite Hezbollah paramilitary group and Israel in the south.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/04/after-kidnapping-senior-lebanese-forces-official-found-dead-syria

Clashes reported on Armenia-Azerbaijan border hours after EU support announced
In a statement Saturday, the Armenian Foreign Ministry reported clashes “in many parts of the border” along with “the movement of dozens of military vehicles,” alleging that the neighboring country “has clearly pursued a provocative goal.” However, according to Azerbaijan’s Defense Ministry, Armenian troops have opened fire on its positions more than 30 times since Friday.
https://www.politico.eu/article/clashes-reported-on-armenia-azerbaijan-border-hours-after-eu-support-announced/
https://archive.is/H1NYC

Ally of left-wing PM wins Slovak presidential election
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Biden unveils new plans to ease US student loan debt for millions
The proposal, which Biden unveiled on Monday during a trip to the state of Wisconsin, includes cancelling up to $20,000 of accrued and capitalised interest for borrowers, regardless of income.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/8/biden-unveils-new-plans-to-ease-us-student-loan-debt-for-millions
https://archive.is/WWRz4

Exclusive: groups call for US inquiry into police killing of ‘Cop City’ protester
Human rights groups have filed a petition to the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights calling for a US Department of Justice investigation into the police killing of “Cop City” protester Manuel Paez Terán, as well as the release of all related evidence, and apologies to the family from the US government.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/08/cop-city-tortuguita-human-rights-investigation

Boeing plane engine cover falls off prompting investigation
Southwest Airlines said its maintenance teams would review the Boeing 737-800 after its cowling, which covers the plane's engine, fell off. The airline confirmed it was responsible for maintenance of such parts. "We apologise for the inconvenience of their delay, but place our highest priority on ultimate safety for our customers and employees," a statement said.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68758088

Off-duty NYPD officer allegedly punched wife in Brooklyn, arrested: police
Police say Boiragee got in an argument with his wife that turned physical when Boiragee allegedly struck her arm with a closed fist. On Sunday, he pleaded not guilty to assault and harassment charges, court records show.
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Episode 367: High Weirding (Part 1) TrueAnon
We join Erik Davis, scholar of the weird and esoteric, in his home for a long conversation about California ideological supremacy, crazy trips, the history of LSD, and his forthcoming book Blotter: The Untold Story of an Acid medium.
https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/high-weirding-1

The West Papua National Liberation Army and Separatist Militancy in Indonesia
A Brief History: Given the history of the Papuan provinces, it is no surprise that the conditions are ripe for insurgency. The provinces, which are collectively referred to as West Papua by pro-independence elements, were taken over by Indonesia following the Dutch withdrawal in the 1960s. Indonesia’s takeover was supported by the United States and other Western powers, who were trying to assert global dominance against the spread of communism in Indonesia and Southeast Asia. These dynamics led to the formation of the Organisasi Papua Merdeka (OPM), or the Free Papua Movement. Papuan calls for independence have only strengthened since the 1960s due to several factors. These include various allegations of human rights abuses by Indonesian forces, the exploitation of resources in the Papuan provinces, and the ethnic and religious differences between Papuans and the rest of Indonesia. There is a high degree of racism towards Papuans in Indonesia; this was the main factor in the 2019 unrest in West Papua and Indonesia. There are several more reasons why the insurgency has brewed in the Papuan provinces; these have been well documented by others.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/post/2024/04/07/the-west-papua-national-liberation-army-and-separatist-militancy-in-indonesia/

Is ‘artificial intelligence’ a threat or a promise?
POPULAR debate over the implications of artificial intelligence (AI) tends to be couched in terms of utopias or dystopias. Will AI lead to some benign post-capitalist paradise — “fully automated luxury communism” perhaps, or to a hellish “technofeudalism”? The answer of course is probably neither (though, yes, capitalism could get even worse!). PolicyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon

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TYBNA

 No.1820697

i love you news anon



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 No.1819702[Reply]

Oh no, Russian FSB has declassified more documents about Nazi falsifications about Katyn https://tass.ru/obschestvo/20515213

How can Katyn denialists ever recover?

MOSCOW, April 11. /tass/. The FSB Directorate for the Smolensk Region has declassified archival documents on crimes committed by the Nazis in the region during the Great Patriotic War, including materials on the executions of Poles and the falsification of the Katyn Case by German special services.

The TASS correspondent got acquainted with copies of documents submitted to the OGKU "State Archive of the Modern History of the Smolensk region" within the framework of the project "Without limitation period".

The archive includes information, intelligence and special reports of the Smersh counterintelligence dated 1944-1945. A significant part of the documents are the interrogation protocols of Poles who served with the Germans in the Smolensk region, the forensic medical expert of the Budapest City Royal Court, Imre Sechody, a member of the commission investigating the murder of Polish officers in the Katyn forest, Boleslav Smektal and others involved.

For example, a native of Poland, Eduard Potkansky, who served in a workers' battalion formed by the Germans from Poles in a camp at the Krasny Bor station in the Smolensk region, said that in the summer of 1943, the Germans decided to show the participants of the workers' battalion the graves of Polish officers in the Katyn forest. Grave graves," Potkansky recalled, "According to the Germans, there were up to 12 thousand Polish officers who were shot, and up to 3 thousand more people are in another place, and these graves have not yet been opened."

According to him, officers' belongings, Polish money, personal letters and documents of the executed officers were lying near the graves. "All these things, and especially personal documents and money, were in such a form in which they could not have been preserved in the ground since 1939 (when, according to Nazi statements, NKVD officers shot Polish officers - approx. TASS). The money, for example, was still brand new and did not seem to be in circulation," the Pole noted.

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 No.1820084

Current russia is imperialist.

 No.1820116

>>1820063
wouldn't them using tor (or i2p) imply that they are doing more work than you guys? they put more effort into being anonymous to slowly organize without getting stopped or sabotaged by the current state

 No.1820142

>>1820063
I would have said the opposite. Dengbeetle activity surged along with american hours

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>>1820116
torchads are always one step ahead
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 No.1820645

>>1819758
>>1819702
I'm the same person, though. You are grossly misrepresenting my position

>>1820051
>enlightened bothsidism

Middle ground between a truth and a lie is a lie



 No.1817871[Reply]

Broadband internet connection and algorithmic content curation has realized Zbigniew Brzezinski's vision of TITTYTAINMENT. Videobinging, excessive videogaming, gooning. Zbiggy was already talking about it many, many years ago. The ruling class needs a way to pacify the masses, now the technology is here. Welcome to the future.
>Uh, just let people enjoy things!
Ok, but keep in mind, why this all stuff actually exists.
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 No.1819297

I do think sometimes what useful info I would know or talents Id have if I hadnt spent most of my youth gaming. I kinda envy kids today since games are such shit now, you're better off playing on a little or not at all

 No.1819311

>>1819297
Gamers never die, they respawn

 No.1819318

I won't have you defame gigantic tits they're the only things that keep me sane and alive.

 No.1820463

>>1819292
Please take your meds

 No.1820707

>>1819292
this is a good post

>>1820463
this is a reddit post



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 No.1819572[Reply]

I don’t mean by its original definition. We need to be like cuntservatives and just start calling everything we don’t like WOKE so we can steal it from them and basically turn it into a neutral word. For example:

Imperialism=WOKE
Cops=WOKE
US military=WOKE
NATO=WOKE
Israel=WOKE
USA=WOKE
Founding Fathers=WOKE
Proud Boys=WOKE
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 No.1820352

Idpol=Woke

 No.1820354

Thinktank thread

 No.1820357

Thais thread is so moid lol

 No.1820359

I've heard people say "woke" so much that now it just sounds to me like the vocalization of some slimy swamp creature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_satiation

 No.1820515

>the left
No.



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 No.1817030[Reply]

What did he mean by this?

>Chairman Mao: Those questions are not questions to be discussed in my place. They should be discussed with the Premier. I discuss the philosophical questions. That is to say, I voted for you during your election. There is an American here called Mr. Frank Coe, and he wrote an article precisely at the time when your country was in havoc, during your last electoral campaign. He said you were going to be elected President. I appreciated that article very much. But now he is against the visit.


<President Nixon: When the President says he voted for me, he voted for the lesser of two evils.


>Chairman Mao: I like rightists. People say you are rightists, that the Republican Party is to the right, that Prime Minister Heath is also to the right.


<President Nixon: And General DeGaulle.


>Chairman Mao: DeGaulle is a different question. They also say the Christian Democratic Party of West Germany is also to the right. I am comparatively happy when these people on the right come into power.
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 No.1820120

>>1819750
>Mao tended to like his enemies
One of the traits I like about him. He didn't like to belittle his enemies and would call Chiang "our common old friend" when talking to Nixon and Kissinger. Like "we insult him, he insults us, eh!" When people would say his writings are great he'd be, like, "nah, none of that stuff is any good."

<Dr. Kissinger: I used to assign the Chairman's collective writings to my classes at Harvard.


<Chairman Mao: Those writings of mine aren't anything. There is nothing instructive in what I wrote. (Looking toward photographers) Now they are trying to interrupt our meeting, our order here.


<President Nixon: The Chairman's writings moved a nation and have changed the world.


<Chairman Mao: I haven't been able to change it- I’ve only been able to change a few places in the vicinity of Peking. Our common old friend, Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek [Jiang Jieshi], doesn’t approve of this. He calls us communist bandits. He recently issued a speech. Have you seen it?


<President Nixon: Chiang Kai-shek calls the Chairman a bandit. What does the Chairman call Chiang- Kai-shek?


<Prime Minister Chou: Generally speaking we call them Chiang Kai-shek's clique. In the newspapers sometimes we call him a bandit: we are also called bandits in turn. Anyway, we abuse each other.

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 No.1820135

because right wingers are unironically easier to deal with than amerikaner liberals who are bitchy and always want to get up in your business and tell you how to run things. the soviets preferred dealing with republicans over dems for the same reason. blinken goes to china. he tells chinese "you gotta embrace lib democracy. you gotta pass a womans rights act. you gotta make lgbt culture law and open a dozen gay bars. you gotta allow our companies unrestricted access. you gotta stop building planes. you have to learn better english. also you need to stop putting unforms on kids at skool. how come you dont play football? you need a chinese NFL now" etc. liberal internationalists are like roman diplomats but even gayer and more insulting.

>>1820120
>He didn't like to belittle his enemies and would call Chiang "our common old friend" when talking to Nixon and Kissinger. Like "we insult him, he insults us, eh!" When people would say his writings are great he'd be, like, "nah, none of that stuff is any good."
thats because mao was from a very traditional background. he new classical chinese and read all the classics. he was old fashioned in that way. in traditional confucian culture your not supposed to belittle your enemies or draw attention to yourself and your supposed to put your own work down and act like your not a big deal. mao was educated. unlike know nothing lenin and stalin and the trot. never completed their education.

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>>1820135
Why is your name "Lolitron"?

 No.1820163

>>1820155
why is your name anonymous?

 No.1820165

>>1820155
nice dubs btw



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 No.1819964[Reply]

The prevalence of opportunism and reformism is primarily due to the extremely large middle class which forms the majority of the population in the West (and possibly in China as well) today. As capitalism develops the proletariat declines as a relative % of society, on the other hand an enormous petit-bourgeois mass is created in order to realize surplus-value for capital. It is a buffer between the two classes, it increases the power and security of the bourgeoisie.

When faced with critical periods, as in recent times, the middle class must find a crutch to rely upon, to find a lifeline to avoid being proletarianized. This it does by recruiting proletarians to fight for its cause, since it is impotent on its own. This is what leftism is, a guise for middle-class elements to ideologically delude the proletarian class in order to use it to pass reforms that will save the petit-bourgeois from doom by preserving its small capital (via welfare, free services, regulations on larger firms etc). All pseudo-communists (the various 'communist parties', the 'democratic' sects like DSA/MUG, all these anarchists and Berniebro-type socdems, Labourists etc) are agents of the middle class, their sole aim is to use the proletariat as a prop for PB interests, even if unknowingly.

This is the source of opportunism and impotence within the proletarian movement, it is the reason why no successful genuine communism has taken hold within the western proletariat. Only when this polluting influence is recognized and shaken off, will anything proceed forward.

 No.1820005

>today
But Glownonymous, Theories of Surplus Value is over 150 years old and not really a finished work. Whenever there is tension between that one and Capital Volume I, which Marx did publish after all, you should go with the latter.

 No.1820012

So what exactly is your policy prescription? How do you intend to move forward?

 No.1820607

>>1820012
OP's goal is anti class-struggle FUD by using some out-of-context quotes by Marx that are in conflict with what he and Engels usually said about the polarizing of society into two classes.

OP claimed:
>the extremely large middle class which forms the majority of the population in the West (and possibly in China as well) today.

Compare what OP wrote with how Engels defined proletariat:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
<The proletariat is that class in society which lives entirely from the sale of its labor and does not draw profit from any kind of capital…

Sounds like the majority to me.



 No.1801409[Reply]

Many are increasingly waking up to the fact that a "two state solution", which imperialists have been trying to shove down the throats of the Palestinian people for years, does nothing but legitimize and reward Zionist colonialism, while denying the right to return for Palestinians violently driven out of their Homeland by the ZioFascist marauders and denying a democratic voice to the Palestinian people. Unfortunately, the alternative that many of them have embraced is a "single democratic binational state" for both the indigenous Palestinians and the descendants of the racist colonizers, who will have equal rights in this "democratic" Palestine. This is alleged to be an "anticolonial" and "socially just" solution, and people insist that when they say "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" this is what they mean.

The reality is that this "solution", no less than the two-state solution, rewards the genocidal Zionist colonizers and hideously equates their "rights" with those of their victims, while denying the right of the Indigenous population to decide who can live on their land. Furthermore, it violates the right of return: how can there be a viable right to return when the homes stolen from Palestinians are being squatted by "Israeli" colonizers? And if this one-state solution is "democratic", can't "Israeli" colonizers just bring more of their co-ethnics to Palestine to outnumber and out vote the indigenous population, and restore Zionist fascist control? Furthermore, given that 98% of "Israelis" hold genocidal ethno-supremacist views to which they are fanatically committed, the idea that they will suddebly have a change of heart and peacefully agree to such a solution in the first place is UTTERLY preposterous!

In reality, there is only solution: for the Palestinian people to wage a fanatical struggle to the death against the colonizers, with the unconditional support and solidarity of all the world's anti-imperialist fighting peoples, after which the Zionist colonizers will be given the same ultimatum that the French "pieds-noirs" were given by the Algerian freedom fighters upon their victory: the suitcase or the coffin! The Zionists must be driven out of all of Palestine, dead or alive, and the one state solution will be a free and socialist Palestine for the indigenous Palestinians. From the river to the see, Palestine will be free, and it's time we stop cucking out and actually MEAN that.
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>>1819488
You are deeply retarded to think the two are equivalent. The mere fact that you put a question mark at „economic relations“ is very telling on its own. Where do you think you are?

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>>1819487
he's real tho

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How would a two-state even work? When has Israel ever respected borders? Anyone still advocating or believing in a two-state solution is either malicious, ignorant or desperate.

It's also morally the wrong thing to do imo, but that's debatable, I guess

 No.1819797

>>1801409
>In reality, there is only solution: for the Palestinian people to wage a fanatical struggle to the death against the colonizers,

This is death cultism.

 No.1823119

best solution? single atheist workers state



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 No.1796726[Reply]

What could happen if harassment of Nazis became normalized?
What case studies are relevant, and what are their limitations?

In many places in the West, we see neo-fash orgs performing both unannounced 'flash-mob' marches, and police-protected protests. As dorky as they look, these still make a statement - we're publicly fascist and not being hurt. It's ok.
But sometimes, these don't go as planned. Antifascist groups frequently infiltrate their communications or have a local network ready to quickly react and counterprotest. And sure, on a regular good day they'll embarrass the fash more than they're doing themselves, deal financial damage by smashing their vehicles, maybe even get an assault in, but this requires organization and dedication. Ideally, this could be complimented by normalized, casual antifascism, creating an environment where it's not safe to be a Nazi outside.

But that's not easy when police will protect them, and make no mistake, that is not an inevitability. Take the example of when the British Union of Fascists went to Brighton, where police weren't sympathetic and basically just sent one cop, letting antifascists like the 43 Group throw bricks at them and beat them up. Or take examples where there are enough aggressive counter-protesters to make police aggression futile - you can only arrest so many people (safety in numbers is a real tactic used in known illegal actions like blockades). Furthermore, there are examples where nazis appear before police do (take the NSN arriving to a demonstration early in an attempt to avoid antifascists) or where they act as individuals performing stunts or wolfwhistling.
In these cases, nazis can be mobbed not just by antifascist activists but by normal citizens, with legal consequence being the only real chilling factor.
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 No.1819587

>>1819423
No offense, this opinion reeks incredibly of Neo-Liberalism, and I'm an anarchist myself. Its not like mainstream opinion was perfeclty middle-ground between the Left and Right, there has "always" been a wedge towards the Right in issues, due to the lingering effects of redscare and the general overton window being slightly-right. A couple twitterfags punching retirees based btw is bad? I guess for the look of "Antifa", but its important to note there is no Antifa, this is a reactionary notion to create a boogyman of twitterfags who put on black masks and LARP as red warriors like the Weatherman, when in reality there is no centralized Antifa, on the same levels of a centralized effort such as Proud Boys. Returning to the point, this violence you allege did not just suddenly turn everyone pro-fascist, likely is they were already pro-fascist to begin with, the fascists just look more like typical Americans than twitterfags ever did. They wear suits and have dogwhisltes and speak in dumbed down, emotional tones to suede further support to their cause.

 No.1819619

>>1796781
follow your leader(kys)

 No.1819626

>>1819423
The libertarian, fascist, capitalist, and anarchist one side tugging against a worker/communist would make the stonetoss meme accurate.

 No.1819675

>>1819626
source? or is this just ad-hominem gibberish, because i remember a certain Spanish Civil War inwhich the opposite was true, Stalin funding the nationalists against the CNT-FAI

 No.1819742

>>1819675
My bad, forgot to add Stalinists



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