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 No.9122[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

OH NO NO NO
"‘Bunkerchan’ Is Trying to Deradicalize Online Nazis"
https://outline.com/a4D8e4
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/01/bunkerchan-deradicalize-online-nazis-4chan-8chan/
(fucking paywalled so just use the Outline link)

WOW! I'm glad those Bunkerchan people are around to put a bullet in anything radical! Oh wait, not anymore.transhumanismTranshumanism
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 No.9915

>>9913
That first pic is at least more honest than some of the more cherrypick-y ones I've seen floating around /pol/ lately.
A couple points though:
- Neera Tanden isn't leading the OMB, appointment was withdrawn.
- It's quite easy for overrepresentation of any given group to occur in a small sample, as just one person will change the % overrepresented immensely. Think about how radical the swing was on the Supreme Court from RBG to ACB for an example (mathematically speaking).transhumanismTranshumanism

 No.9916

>>9913
>Its pretty easy to se the Trot>Neo-Con pipeline in the US, it isn't even hidden but openly admitted often enough
Trotskyists are generally the foremost anti-communists. Some guy even did a book on it with funny pictures.
The thing that you fail to factor in - and this applies to the USSR, but also to your worldview in general - is that you assume everything is always going to plan. Even for those who are victorious, who can be said to practically have total power, things are usually not going entirely to plan. The world is a fundamentally chaotic place - the USSR collapsed for a lot of reasons, from internal political mistakes to foreign subversion - not because there was some single grand plan of betrayal.

Those in charge are more often than not genuinely delusional. The free traders often thought that economic liberalization would force political liberalization on China. They were delusional, everything did not go according to plan. They were not playing 10 dimensional chess to undermine the United States, they simply fucked up. Anyone familiar with economic history can quickly deduce that the people in power are dangerously wrong with frightening regularity, often acting in ways that shoot themselves in the feet.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism

 No.9917

>>9907
>Still doesn't explain why they broke the way of the commies in WWII my dude
>From a class consiouss perspective it objectively and undeniably makes no fucking sense
>It ONLY makes sense if they were working off a frame work other then class (which by the way undermines the entire argument of lennin for how capitalist states opperate, but i digress)
It absolutely makes sense from a class framework you fag, and this was already stated to you in another thread. Britain, France, and Germany all constituted competing imperialist capitalist powers. Despite that though, Britain and France showed no interest in getting involved against Germany up until the Molotov-Ribbentrop, as there was the view that Germany would go to war with the USSR given enough time as opposed to expanding further into British and French holdings, thus resolving the issue of both Germany and the USSR. The British even had a plan to bomb USSR oil fields in the event of an invasion, as this would both cripple the USSR and suffocate Germany resource wise. Instead what happened was that the non-aggression pact got announced, which caught everyone flatfooted and forced Britain to actually have to honor it's agreement with Poland to ensure German expansion was stifled, as it appeared at the time that the USSR would not be taking up arms against Germany and Germany could thoretically fix any oil issues it had by trading with the USSR. WW2 would have been a war only between competing capialist interests if Germany didn't then go full retard and decide to invade the USSR under the pretense it would just toplle over and it could just take the resources they needed.

This has been stated multiple times to you, and to pretend that no such argument was ever offered is just downright dishonest. If you don't accept it, fine, but then this conversation is useless to have as there will be no agreement whatsoever.

 No.9918

>>9916
we may also reintroduce class here: So the average American has been staring down stagnant living standards since the 1970s, what of it? the average politician feels and knows that his life is getting better, and in a very human way he generalizes that the country must be getting better. the same of the well paid media professionals and so on - for them things have never been better! the dismal destitution of daily life for the average person is completely outside their range of experience, as distant from you or i as we in the first world are from the people of Haiti.

So if you ask them: have the policies of the last 40 years, the policies that have so transparently dismantled what little quality of life the American people could expect to enjoy as citizens of a developed nation, have those policies been a success? have they made America better? of course they're going to say yes! and in a culture of "fake it 'till you make it" delusion borne of denying the existence of a class system*, of course the aspirational will repeat it! No conspiracy, no party line passed on from on-high, just people relying on their honest day to day experience and (in the most American of ways) declining to look at the data that doesn't align with their worldview.

*the upside of a nation like Britain, with a literal class of feudal lords, is that people are far more aware about how their position in life is determined not by what they do, but by what their father has done. cultural cross contamination with America has dampened this quite a bit, but it is still a very helpful inheritance. Well, helpful for being in contact with reality - it's also a reason British people are miserable fuckers.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism

 No.9919

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 No.498099[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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MAKE DEGENERATE FUN AGAIN!

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I have just noticed 2001 the Space Odyssey is actually set in a Communist Society because the bags in the film have a Aeroflot Insignia

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>>498718
Not quite, it just takes place in a world where the Cold War continues into the "distant" future of 2001. Picrel are supposed to be space nukes still pointed at eachother, though that scene from the film seems to imply relations between the Soviets and Americans have warmed over time.

 No.498720

>>498719
The sequel has a joint American-Soviet mission to investigate the events of the first film on a Soviet ship.
Tensions rise and the countries come close to nuclear war while the crews are helpless to do anything about it in the outer system.

 No.498721

iOS and non-JS users should now be able to upload multiple images using the basic upload button.
Long overdue but it's here now.



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 No.9054[Reply]

I am writing this to address an absolutely gigantic blindspot of the Left, which I have seen Far-right groups,
Ethnonationalists,Nazbols and other assorted Fascists seize upon.This is the question of how diversity effects
trust in a society.

Since the Left has not addressed the issue, the right has utilized it convert many thousand's of people and bolster
their arguments, since they are free to say that ethnically homogenous societies have much more trust as compared to
Diverse societies and thus ethnonationalism is justified.The Far-right has also brow beaten Civic nationalists in this
field.

Now Let's see the evidence against the fact that diversity reduces social trust.

>The most Important study In this Issue In the Putnam one, let's see what it contains

Putnam (2007) is easily the most often cited paper to show that diversity negatively impacts communities. Putnam shows that participants from more diverse regions reported lower levels of social capital, the degree to which neighbors interact with and trust one another, even after controlling for individual and regional differences in social and economic variables.
>What is often ignored in second-hand accounts of this paper is that the multivariate effect, the impact of diversity after controlling for all these confounding variables, was statistically significant but minuscule. Local ethnic diversity independently accounted for less than 1% of the variation in trust.Before controlling for confounding variables, the relationship between an area’s level of trust and ethnic diversity looked strong and negative.
>Moreover, it wasn’t the strongest effect measured. At the individual level, the best predictors were, in order, a participant’s age, whether they owned a home, their level of education, and whether they were Black. The strongest regional predictors, in order, were census tract poverty rate, crime rate, ethnic diversity, and population density.
>Going from an area with zero diversity to an area with maximum diversity would be predicted to lower trust by .14 points on a 4 point scale. (Diversity has a minimum of .25) By contrast, going from maximum to minimum poverty increase trust by .66 points.
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 No.9117

>>9116
I think so, yeah. Nothing says "solidarity" and "equality" quite like a racially waited "progressive stack" amirite?

 No.9118

>>9115
I posted a comment with data

 No.9119

>>9118
Thanks but I was talking about posts.

 No.9120

Bump

 No.9121

>>9063
Liberals (classical liberals in simple English) are rightoids but not far-right.



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 No.8248[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Alba, A4U, I dunnae kain who's who!
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 No.9049

telling people who wouldn't otherwise break shit to break random shit as though it'll achieve anything is glowing tbh
(telling them to engage in meaningless property damage because it's cool is fine though.)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism

 No.9050

>>9047
Over ten thousand people marched for the NHS a few years ago and not one media establishment mentioned it, they even went past BBC HQ. A thousand people gave a few cops a kicking a month ago and it was in every paper for days.
I think there's been a doctrine shift and people are yet to catch up to how the police operate nowadays. I used to see constant evidence of police instigating violence at protests to break them up around 2008, but I actually see less as time goes on and the internet gets bigger. Nowadays they seem content to let the protest tire itself out. This deliberate shift imo most likely occurred around the time kettling became popular.
I think the police wouldn't be able to handle violent unrest nowadays, as we saw with the London riots and even a bit with BLM recently. This shift towards kettling and away from instigation ties in with this.
>>9049
I won't rest until even GCHQ has smashed windows.

 No.9051

>>8920
t. tony blair while gathering support for the iraq war

 No.9052

New thread: >>173342

 No.9053

>>9050
in my role as permanent secretary i can inform you that the manifesto commitment to ensure that "GCHQ has smashed windows" can be delivered immediately, provided you are willing to inform your party conference that you were using those words rather more laterally than the expected. [spoiler]that is to say, to refer to the fact the Windows operating system has more back doors than one of those old trains where every compartment got a door.[/spoiler]

>>9051
Tony Blair achieved more for evil through action than any good person will ever achieve through inaction.
(Unless someone invents a time machine and then ties Tony Blair to a trolley line, then relies on good people not pulling the lever to redirect it in the interest of altruism)democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism



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 No.4206[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Haz is completely humiliating and degrading that individualist anglo brainlet on stream. Tune in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNdgFtqmvC4
Picrel is sage
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 No.4936

>>4901
Ginjeet brought up a lot of interesting points, explained dialectical synthesis through example and drank and smoked on stream. Thank you Gentleginjeet you were sick.

 No.4937

Let me TLDR why sage thinks strikes are direct action: sage runs a "tenant union", so he basically knocks on doors and says "fuck the landlord lets not pay rent". That's his fucking union lmao. First of all good for you, you have reached an adam smith ricardo level of consciousness. But not just that, its also basic self-interest. but for Marxists, unions mean a different thing. for us fucking Marxists, unlike sage, we grab the neck of capital and strangle it at the point of production. But sage's labor union shit "No matter how small and local we do our part" anglo individualist meme feel like they are work. its not radical resistance. it doesn't touch basic social ontology. rent strikes wont achieve anything

 No.4938

>>4930
>>4932
Because these guys aren't complete morons and actually based, and since we (leftypol) found them early, we are basically dialecticaly influencing the direction of their channel. We are shaping them up to defeat breadtube.

 No.4939

>>4937
>for us fucking Marxists, unlike sage, we grab the neck of capital and strangle it at the point of production.

Imaging "grabbing the neck of capital" through live ranting on Youtube lol

 No.4940

>>4937
Why does the arbitrary classification of something as "direct action" matter? Is this what you guys have been posting 700 posts about?



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 No.2608[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

These guys over at Infrared have been interacting with our threads (/IG/, /INFRARED/) on almost a daily basis, and for that mere fact alone deserve our respect. They contribute to our PPH (post per hour) being higher. The last thread's thread starter was a bunch of slander and trolling attempts, so I'd like to get off on a better footing for this one.

Infrared is:
>20 people (as of now)
>20 people from ALL AROUND THE WORLD
>anti-anglo (aka. anti-whatever that makes the western left incompetent)
>pro-Communism with a capital C

Reading group on Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#IBC:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

To all the haters and trolls: keep coping. Infra is BASED beyond belief.lenin_capLenin Cap
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 No.3428

I want you all to know Haz just admitted on stream to literally skipping leg day ahahaha

 No.3429

>>3428
he doesn't even do his fucking core

 No.3430

Hahhahaha he said he wouldn’t ban me from the chat by here I am timed out… can’t handle to the truth Haz strikes are direct action

 No.3431

>>3430
Because you were spamming idiot, just talk to him on zoom, even Gentle Ginjeet with his unibrow was less of a pussy than you. DM him on twitter, if you're so concerned about doxing speak in your anime voice.

 No.3432

>>3430
No one thinks your anime villain ass has the truth.



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 No.1840[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This thread is for the discussion of infrared and their heterodox view of Marxism-Leninism.
Infrared is a collective group, with Haz being the leader(? or atleast the one in control of their youtube/twitter/etc.)
From my observation they draw a lot of influences from Martin Heidegger, Aleksandr Dugin, Alexandre Kojève, Jacques Lacan, Nick Land, Slavoj Zizek and so on and so on.
>What's this guys deal?
-Anglo man bad
-Marxism is NOT a western ideology
-Merkel is a based anti-imperialist
-socialism is when china does stuff
-we already live in socialism
-socialism is actually like feudalism
-O N T O L O G I C A L

Youtube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl63ZOm_bepvwoKjw24rogA
Twitter - https://twitter.com/ShowInfrared
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 No.2603

>>2490
based and anti-anglo pilled

 No.2604

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>>2507
LMAO

 No.2605

NEW THREAD
>>70323
>>70323
>>70323
>>70323
NEW THREAD

 No.2606

Haz, what is the material reason the Anglos are so cancer

 No.2607

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>>1966
A blessing upon your' house. Thank you for this image



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 No.18474[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Okay so literally i'm creating a new bi porn thread because i realized that some people are staying on bunkerchan just because my nudes are there so i'm gonna make it easier for them to come here by reposting thempunkPunk
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Final bump to kill the threadpunkPunk

 No.19075

>>19074
W-why do you want to kill all this good stuff?

 No.19076

>>19074
I just checked and this thread is 6 months old. A lot of good porn is going to be lost :'(

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>>19076
I'll make a new one. Next time i wont post without 5 files per post to maximize post efficiency.punkPunk



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 No.7443[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for the discussion of Anarchism.

Foundational texts:
>Alexander Berkman, ABCs of Anarchist-Communism
https://libcom.org/library/abc-anarchism-alexander-berkman
>Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-mutual-aid-a-factor-of-evolution
>Errico Malatesta, Anarchism and Organization
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-anarchism-and-organization
>More
https://libcom.org/library/anarchism-reading-guide

News:
>https://freedomnews.org.uk/
>https://anarchistnews.org/
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 No.8243

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>>8242anarcho-communismAnarcho-Communism

 No.8244

>>8242
what obvious reasons?

 No.8245

>>8244
They look like a small child

 No.8246

>(fulll)
is this shit not cyclic we have to make a new one ?

 No.8247

bump?



 No.19690[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.

I get that since the split the number of Australians here probably went from being counted on two hands to just one, but I figured that there should be at least a thread here that we can keep bumping.
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 No.20289

>>20288
To be fair they were all university students, so maybe that colours it differently.

 No.20290

>>20289
Honestly, how long ago was this? Resistance (the youth wing) was formally abolished due to lack of specific interest by Uni students like two years ago (after a big, fairly public split in 2016 when a bunch of anarchist type youth left, although the old guard leadership didn't acquit themselves in a saintly manner either). We don't actually have many Uni students left. For my part, I'm strongly anti-stupol.

 No.20291

Thread full, is this one worth archiving?

 No.20292

Yes & pls link to the next one in this thread. I want to continue discussion.

 No.20293

Made a new thread: >>353583



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