No.525928
<Which animals have the capacity for conscious experience? While much uncertainty remains, some points of wide agreement have emerged.
<First, there is strong scientific support for attributions of conscious experience to other mammals and to birds.
<Second, the empirical evidence indicates at least a realistic possibility of conscious experience in all vertebrates (including reptiles, amphibians, and fishes) and many invertebrates (including, at minimum, cephalopod mollusks, decapod crustaceans, and insects).
<Third, when there is a realistic possibility of conscious experience in an animal, it is irresponsible to ignore that possibility in decisions affecting that animal. We should consider welfare risks and use the evidence to inform our responses to these risks.https://sites.google.com/nyu.edu/nydeclaration/declarationDo you feel comfortable eating animals?
No.525931
>Do you feel comfortable eating animals?
Yes, I need to, biologically.
No.525934
>>525931>need to biologicallywrong
No.525935
Even scientists can only define consciousness as what basically amounts to a "soul".
No.525944
>it's a "consciouisness is qualia" episode
No.525946
>>525934all needs are biological
No.525958
>Do you feel comfortable eating animals?
Dead animals have consciousness?
No.525993
No, eating animals made man smarter.
No.526005
>>525928>Do you feel comfortable eating animals?Yeah cause they'd probably eat me if the positions were swapped
No.526033
>>525993But I say that the women today are smarter than the men in every way. That's right, the women are smarter!
No.526036
>>525946Not all biological needs are survival drives. It's not that hard to get protein without animal products and make it tasty. Coconut water + soy isolate shake, peanut flour/powder with no sugar (50% protein), some curries, it's decadent when you have a tiny bit of dough to put into it
No.526038
>>526036the products you described are symbols of colonialist and capitalist exploitation
No.526039
>>525928I don't eat animals because factory farming causes so much suffering. I've cut out all animal products but cheese, and I'll give that up soon too. I hope humanity treats animals better in the future. The amount of suffering in this world is far too high.
No.526057
>>526033True, those women probably eat a lot of animal fat
>>526038Yes, companies like Nestle and Kellogg's are pure evil.
No.526059
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No.526095
>>526038Native Americans in the plains were fairly tall and well developed before the settlers decimated their food supply(red meat).
No.526202
>>526038>symbols of colonialist and capitalist exploitation??????????
No.526323
it's kind of obvious animals experience and remember things if you hang out with them. i don't need soyence to tell me industrial farming and animal torture is bad
No.526556
Anyone who isn‘t a psychopath already knew animals have consciousness. Human beings are not special.
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