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 No.516503

Material analysis of babymama culture? Especially concerning women who deliberately go out and get pregnant by famous dudes and the.Lin flex their offspring on social media?

 No.516505

>4chan (phone) screencap thread
anyone that posts here hates not only this site, but themselves
(I'm doing meta-commentary so it's fine)

 No.516513

Clout

 No.516543

I think this says a lot about the nature of the family in the post-social media age. Back in the day, rappers’ girlfriends didn’t have children with them for clout, they had children with them because they loved them. Nowadays, girls have babies with rappers solely because they want that infamy. It’s not even about money or child support anymore but about getting likes and followers on IG. Meaning, there’s an entire generation of kids being born to famous people solely for the sake of clout. If you were in Jenesis’ shoes and your baby daddy died when you were still in your first trimester you’d most likely abort since you wouldn’t want to do this on your own. Yet Jen kept the baby in spite of Jah’s death because she wanted social media fame. That’s batshit.

 No.516546

>Especially concerning women who deliberately go out and get pregnant by famous dudes

You don't say? Fascinating.

 No.516556

>>516503
People shit on Drake all the time, but his idea of putting spicy sauce in his used condoms to deterr gold diggers from doing shit like this was unironically a genius move.

 No.516563

>>51655
>putting spicy sauce in his used condoms to deterr gold diggers from doing shit like this
Excuse, what? How does that works?

 No.516564

>>516543
>If you were in Jenesis’ shoes and your baby daddy died when you were still in your first trimester you’d most likely abort since you wouldn’t want to do this on your own
Lol. She, her son and like two future generations of her family are set for life thanks to all the money X made. Don't really see why she should've aborted if she didn't want to unless you really believe a full nuclear family is necessary to raise a child… Which is just odd coming from an anarkkka feminist flag.

 No.516567

>>516563
>According to a gossip account called Too Much Hot Tea, the rapper hooked up with an unnamed Instagram model a few weeks ago. After attending a party together, the woman alleged they went to his hotel and smoked weed before having sex with condom, which Drake ended up disposing of in the bathroom. But the woman apparently had ulterior motives, specifically to impregnate herself. As such, she claimed to have fished the used condom out of the trash and put the contents into her vagina — except she said it felt like "pouring hot lava into her pussy." She then went on to allege that after hearing her screams, Drake came to the bathroom and told her he'd poured a packet of hot sauce into the condom in a bizarre attempt to kill the sperm. And now, the woman is trying to sue.
Idk how effective sauce is as a sperm killer but if the story is true it at least warned Drake about the scheme going on

 No.516568

>>516549
Yeah, it happened 20-30 years ago but was never super prevalent like it is now.

 No.516569

>>516567
Should have used bleach

 No.516570

>>516564
Money isn’t everything. Most people wouldn’t go through raising a kid alone knowing that the kid would have all sorts of unresolved trauma.

 No.516571

>>516568
Social media doesn't increase it's prevalence but makes it more noticed

 No.516574

>>516573
Social media clout gives these women an incentive to treat their kids like props.

 No.516619

>>516574
Kids have always been treated as vanity projects. Also, that kind of thing is becuase of ghettofab culture.

Even before social media they wouldve waved them around through biweekly magazine interviews or weekly morning TV.

 No.516636

>>516564
Money doesn't replace the love of a father.

 No.516638

Thread theme.

Have a baby
Have a baby by me, baby, be a millionaire
Have a baby by me, baby, be a millionaire
Have a baby by me, baby, be a millionaire
Be a millionaire, be a, be a millionaire

Have a baby by me, baby, be a millionaire
Have a baby by me, baby, be a millionaire
Have a baby by me, baby, be a millionaire
Be a millionaire, be a, be a millionaire

 No.516640

>>516636
Ypure right. But most fathers lack the empathy to be proper parents.
Theyre usually dismissive, aloof, abusive, or insecure.

 No.516642

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 No.516644

>>516640
Blanket statement

 No.516646

>>516503
>Especially concerning women who deliberately go out and get pregnant by famous dudes and the.Lin flex their offspring on social media?
I think the answer is pretty damn obvious.

In a patriarchal culture where women are excluded from most activities women compensate by putting all their energies into the home, namely child-rearing. That's where you get things like the smother-mother, "Tiger mother", "Jewish mother", etc. Notice how most of these baby mamas specifically have babies with rappers and basketball or football players; hip hop and professional sports are notoriously patriarchal where women are heavily mocked and ridiculed (notice all the hate female MCs get compared to male MCs for instance). It makes sense women who are drawn to those spaces would rather be the mother of a famous person's kid than try to be famous in those fields themselves.

 No.516700

>>516503
Nanny state (literally) takes care of baby in place of father, now further is the previous expectation of societal consciousness negated by capitalism, specifically the capitalist need of an exact mother-father nuclear family dynamic. It, more deeply, is an affirmation of the nuclear family rather than a proper development past it.

 No.516701

>>516646
Yea but we live in a fime of female empowerment where women are told theyre better than men at anything due to "intuition" and "empathy".

We have affirmative action and endless trade programs that give sympathy to women. Yet, these kind of women OP describes are ghettofab queens. Theyre lumpen-bourgeoise.
They have no desire to create their own labor. They just wanna find some suitor to mooch off of.


I know people here will not loke me for saying it but: Black Americans born after 1962 are a lost cause.
Theyve been posioned by the hip hop culture. All they talk about is wanting to be the next hip hop mogul or something. They still chase after hustling even after their thirties.

Alot of their abodes have clothes, jewelry, and gadgets littered about the place.
They have fridges stuffed full of take out food.

Black Americans are always assumed to be poor.
If they were poor, they wouldnt even have clothes or fast food restaurants in their neighborhoods.
They wouldnt be cruising dowm he street in retro cars.

Theyre broke, but not poor.

If you look at black people from outside America, these people are ACTUALLY POOR and have ambitions to better themselves.
Alot of black people whom you see are successful in the US are usually immigrants.

 No.516703

>>516701
What about:
>>516642

 No.516704

>>516700
Parenthood has been reduced to vanity arts. As is pet ownership.

 No.516706

>>516642
Conservative culture is beautiful!

 No.517093

I love how everyone likes blaming the baby mamas and not the men who stuck their dicks into these women to begin with.

 No.517096

>>517093
Both of them suck.

 No.517099

>>517093
Because nobody likes greedy whores.

 No.517202

I wasn't familiar with the term and had to search it up and I was shocked at this thread when I did. Are you wankers really complaining about single mums? I don't think there is anything more despicable than targeting such an already marginalised demographic (I don't care if whatever her name is bourgeois when most single mums are at the bottom of the working class). You are completely poisoned by rightoid brainrot if you think they are somehow in the wrong .

 No.517540

>>516503
>muh emotional fuckery
Okay so how are Biggie, ODB's, Nipsey's, etc. kids doing?

 No.517557

>>517202
Most wannabe bougie retard shit I've ever seen, is fucking American white women literally getting knocked up, getting married, taking a guy through the ringer then after splitting up her family and financially hosing the guy, honest to fucking god feels like she "deserves" a much richer man as a husband now that she is
1) older
2) a single mom, has a kid with another man
3) has literally proven she's not trustworthy to be in a marriage given her past behaviour

This is a fucking ton of women in America, of the entitled persuasion. No I don't give two bloody fucks dude, do you know how easily they can walk away? I absolutely support the right to choose. You have the right to choose when to lose your virginity. You have the right to choose who to have sex with, and how often and how many partners. You have the right to decide which acts and whether you use protection or not, and you can choose to use birth control. You also legally had the right to choose to get an abortion, regardless how the father felt about all that. And, ultimately, you had the right to choose to leave the fucking father.

You got to choose a hell of a lot, now that fucking child is YOUR responsibility YOUR problem not fucking mine. YOU made this whole series of decisions. YOU then made this complete fuckup of a life to be inflicted on your kid because let's face it, what you're doing is unfair to the father, it's unfair to the boyfriend, and it's sure as shit unfair to the child and almost always because the mom is a selfish immature dingbat who puts her own fucking immature pleasures and fleeting impulses and how she feels BEFORE the needs of the child.

No don't give me none of that shit I don't sympathize with any bum ass woman who goes through the whole entire gamut of choices to end up having a kid AND THEN leaves the fucking father and expects the fucking government (i.e., a whole collection of other men including taxpayers, politicians, emergency workers, infrastructure workers etc) all to take care of her bum ass because the decisions she selfishly made for herself and all often of the most self absorbed idea she somehow can still get rich off a man and "deserves" to get a better man because she still feels "owed" that other husband.

And she breaks her fucking kid's life in pursuit of it.

Let's stop fucking pretending single moms are some special victim, this isn't f'ing 1950s Ireland, you made a mistake, you own up to it like an adult and do what's best for that child, if you don't, don't act like any of us are supposed to step in for you when what you should be doing is patching things over with the child's father including swallowing your own bum ass pride.

When there is a single mother it is almost ALWAYS the mother's decision to leave the father. You fucked him, you decided to carry, you made the whole series of decisions and now your decisions are no longer about you, they're now about SOMEONE ELSE. Everything you did stopped being about you the moment you gave birth. So I don't want to hear it.

>>516701
What was done to hiphop was literally a bunch of nonblack people outside the community hustling in, taking it over, coopting and utterly destroying all that the form and culture was, to push out trash basically glorifying that kind of thing because being a pimp in a broken neighborhood that abandoned God, truth, and all morals in pursuit of the dollar especially by dealing drugs for the CIA. Huh. Crazy. It's almost like that directly benefits some power structure in society, like some group of people that run everything from Hollywood to Washington D.C. is directly benefiting from making sure Black Wallstreet stays burned to the ground and tries demoralizing and spiritually destroying all they come across.

These people are my fucking enemies. And I am well aware of the fact that black Christians and Muslims are among their primary targets. They're targeting the last living actual leftists and devout pious white Christians, along with any other remaining Christians, they're targeting black Americans, they are targeting the fuck out of Muslims, and it became clearer and clearer to me who these people are and what they believe and want and why they are doing what they are doing. And part of that is the realization of this, which was btw said by a guy who was literally shtupping a Rothschild heiress behind her rich banker husband's back https://youtu.be/3geCkl6ZfBM?t=144 this is one of the realest things I ever seen and I'm shocked that not only Jay Electronica had the balls to just up and say it, but they let this shit actually be broadcast.

But then again, the modern info war is about the crapflood not outright censorship and memory holing. It's about fine grained manipulation and psyoping, misdirecting and discrediting, not assassinating and burying anymore. They know full well they can just up and say it like "what. what the fuck you even gonna do about it? Yeah nothing. That's what, nothing you're gonna go back and shitpost and play games and be too busy arguing about gender or abortion or some stupid shit we your owners set before you to have you at each other's throats like gladiators"

And we all know some people should be shot on C-Span. They have quite literally declared war on the masses of humanity and it's a real war with real bullets.

>>516700
Modern Capitalism literally necessitates the welfare state to extend the long con so as to continue socializing the cost of doing business while privatizing the cost and part of that cost is trying to upraise enough aspects of food, shelter etc. to basically keep the serf class from being so uncomfortable, starving, sick, unsheltered that they beging thinking to revolt. Give your slaves a roof over their head and a warm place to shit and pick one of them and tell them they're better than the others with a slightly bigger crumb of rations and you can rule indefinitely, much the way the konzentrationslager camp system was run the same way, even though they're literally being exterminated and had no warm place to shit. And then squeeze slowly, so the many will tolerate it roughly for the longest while.

 No.517559

>>517557
Amen brother.

Finally someone on here with some fucking sense.

Most of the takes here are either incel shit or sycophantic.

This is golden. Too bad the mods are gonna have a menstrual episode about this.

 No.517560

File: 1711601737854.gif (2.55 MB, 498x276, laughing drake.gif)

>>516567
That's hilarious, I wonder what kind of psychotic pants on head retarded wording of the litagation it would be

>>516569
She's likely not keeping that shit up there

 No.517561

>>517557
Also forgot to add: I have no respect for humn breeders as a social class.
I love them as individuals though.

I just hate how marriage and parenthood are treated as some involuntary task of suffering that needs constant sympathy.

I always tire of hearing middle aged people whining about their spouses and kids leeching off of them. Like bruh you choose to have them. Nobody put a gun to your head.

They look down on younger people for being single and childless, viewing them as lazy immature delinquents.
Yet they wanna brag about their adolescent misdaventures and "muh classics".

 No.517562

>>517561
Found the Malthusian.

 No.517563

>>517540
CJ Wallace was like six months old when Biggie was clout martyred so I doubt he has any trauma.

 No.517564

>>517202
It's not just single moms. It's intentionally getting pregnant to use the baby as some kind of fashion accessory and/or social bargaining chip. If you think this thread is gross go look into some mom groups online and see what kinds of attitudes these people have about their kids.

 No.517565

>>516505
I found and archived the original 4mu thread:

https://archive.is/k95PU

It's a disaster, not surprisingly.

 No.517566

>>517564
If you think thats bad, look at dog owmers. Theyre light years ahead on that.

Pet culture is even more toxic than baby mama culture.

 No.517567

>>517562
What is a Malthusian?

 No.517569

>>516503
>jahseh
>jenesis
>gekyume
Is this a fucking anime?

 No.517651

>>517565
X will be forever known as a stupid kid who manipulated thousands of other stupid kids and died as a result of his own hubris.

 No.518327

>>517565
>Do you think his music and legacy will be upheld in a decade or two after his death in the same manner as Tupac and Biggie?

Absolutely not. X wasn't a lyrical miracle like Biggie or a socially conscious dude like Pac. He has like four good songs out of his entire discography and most of his better stuff from SoundCloud has entirely disappeared.

 No.518553

What’s wrong with being a “gold digger” exactly? How is being exploited by a boss “better” than having a rich man’s baby age living off his money? Shouldn’t we be encouraging more women to abandon wage slavery for motherhood?

 No.518598

>>518553
>In truth, our state is interested in keeping the vote from working women and from them alone. It rightly fears they will threaten the traditional institutions of class rule, for instance militarism (of which no thinking proletarian woman can help being a deadly enemy), monarchy, the systematic robbery of duties and taxes on groceries, etc. Women’s suffrage is a horror and abomination for the present capitalist state because behind it stand millions of women who would strengthen the enemy within, i.e., revolutionary Social Democracy. If it were a matter of bourgeois ladies voting, the capitalist state could expect nothing but effective support for the reaction. Most of those bourgeois women who act like lionesses in the struggle against “male prerogatives” would trot like docile lambs in the camp of conservative and clerical reaction if they had suffrage. Indeed, they would certainly be a good deal more reactionary than the male part of their class. Aside from the few who have jobs or professions, the women of the bourgeoisie do not take part in social production. They are nothing but co-consumers of the surplus value their men extort from the proletariat. They are parasites of the parasites of the social body. And consumers are usually even more rabid and cruel in defending their “right” to a parasite’s life than the direct agents of class rule and exploitation. The history of all great revolutionary struggles confirms this in a horrible way. Take the great French Revolution. After the fall of the Jacobins, when Robespierre was driven in chains to the place of execution the naked whores of the victory-drunk bourgeoisie danced in the streets, danced a shameless dance of joy around the fallen hero of the Revolution. And in 1871, in Paris, when the heroic workers’ Commune was defeated by machine guns, the raving bourgeois females surpassed even their bestial men in their bloody revenge against the suppressed proletariat. The women of the property-owning classes will always fanatically defend the exploitation and enslavement of the working people by which they indirectly receive the means for their socially useless existence.
t. rosa luxemburg

 No.520821

>>516503
At least Gekyume will never know what it's like to have a serial abuser as a father.

 No.525892

Using your kid to sell merch is child abuse.

 No.525901

>>525892
https://old.reddit.com/r/XXXTENTACION/comments/1c8zman/im_sorry_bro_but_making_this_baby_sign_a_shirt/

ALL of these X fans are saying this is child abuse to the highest degree.

Gekyume will be psychologically fucked for his entire life given how exploited he was by his own family. Another Jackie Coogan/Baby Peggy.

 No.526254

poor kids

 No.526350


 No.526620

>>526350
>X always said he believed in the human race
Is that why he beat the shit out of his ex?

 No.526831

>>518553
being a baby mama isnt motherhood.

Mist mothers are working women even in the days befire capitalism

 No.526833

>>525892
So is compulsory schooling but yall arent ready for that conversation.


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