No.1831076
>>1830858Was a goal of many communists pre-Marx and still is.
>>1830859That was the point of the statement.
No.1831080
>>1830857the fact that something can be used to assemble an argument for communism does not, in itself, mean it's not worthy of ridicule or not primarily found in service of capitalism. (one can argue for communism based on the acts of the Biblical Jesus, but that doesn't redeem the church…)
>>1830858then i am not a communist! No.1831707
What is the raison d'etre of the stock market beyond actual capital investments these days? Are futures just a way for the bourgeoise to gamble so that the enormous amounts of dollars printed have somewhere to escape?
No.1831709
>>1831707What question are you asking? The raison detre is to make money.
No.1831726
>>1831709Clearly not, since futures have an expected profit of 0%. In fact, the profit is effectively negative because of the opportunity cost of not investing that money into actual capital which would produce a positive profit albeit meagre.
No.1831917
>>1830822if you serve bourgeois society you are held to no standard of evidence. If you are a socialist you are expected to be an expert in every single field simultaneously.
No.1831954
>>1828519>Love Mao all you want (he was perhaps the greatest liberal democrat of the 20th century after all) but don't pretend he overthrew capitalismApparently attempting to dissolute your own ML State for a classless, moneyless society directly controlled by the proletariet masses is now considered neoliberal capitalist egalitarianism because of thirdworldism
No.1831986
>>1831916>>1831982Ignoring the philosophical drivel at the end, indeed, the state is itself the largest capitalist that enforces and reproduces bourgeois social relations, and each bourgeois state is in competition with other bourgeois states just like bourgeois firms.
No.1834135
Is it unhinged to argue that some people are genetically reactionary?
No.1834137
>>1834135Yes. I mean in theory politics is partly based on genetics but if you start skull measuring you're just gonna look psychotic
No.1834143
>>1834135lmfao absolutely
No.1834144
im not a fascist because of my class position i actually have the reactionary gene
No.1834145
>>1834137>in theory politics is partly based on geneticsuygha wdymmmm
No.1834150
>>1834144I strongly suspect that the bourgeoise are to a large extent selected by genetic traits for anti social behaviour, and as such they should be understood as a parasitic sub-species of human.
>>1834137Does it not bother you how class consciousness seems to rub off some people like water off a leaf? I am struggling to come up with alternative explanations for why some people are so pathologically resistant to Marxist thinking.
No.1834153
>>1834150>they should be understood as a parasitic sub-species of humanlove moralist whining in my 'marxist' analysis
No.1834858
When Stalin said "the blackest reaction", what does "black" mean here? I've heard this quote a million times, but never thought to question what black meant. I guess I just interpreted as "deep"
or entrenched but maybe it means something else?
No.1835007
>>1834858Are you not english first language? "Black" or "dark" has been a way of saying "bad", "scary", etc for a long time. For all i know that was just artistic license from whoever translated the quote, though I wouldnt be surprised if thats a common feature in many languages
No.1835586
I wish socialism worked better than capitalism since my values and principles align almost one to one with socialists, but seeing what happened in practice across the world, it is kind of hard to support it. Even Salvador Allende, the democratically elected leader, had skeletons in his closet. In practice, I guess I have to support social democracy since it's the closest system to socialism without being socialism, and has a functioning base on which it can be focused on providing and leveling everything even for everyone with high equality and high quality of life. If communism worked better than capitalism, then I would 100% support it, but seeing the mixed results just deters me.
No.1835658
This is what youtube proposes to me after listening to this based song:
"Stalin" - Swedish Communist Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyJWMxfE-lkHow do we fight against the algorithm? Maybe mostly not for us but for others.
No.1835661
>>1835658Same, i keep watching communist music but my only recomendations are fascist larping music
No.1835681
>>1835661recommendations are also based on the views of people in and around your geographic location
No.1835687
>>1835681Makes sense, i should use a VPN to avoid those problems in the future.
No.1835843
>>1835687Where the hell would you set it to?
Even invidious instances are mostly techlord clickbait sponsored shit
No.1835963
>>1834858He meant that it would be enforced by the Sudanese.
>>1834153Parasite is an ecological niche, where is the moralizing?
No.1835970
>>1835661yt recs are unhinged even on a freshly installed windows computer under a new ip. i just completely ignore them and hid the column with an adblocker
No.1838000
What material conditions lead to the AH empire exploding into a billion different nations? In the case of Czechia the different level of industry makes sense, but what about the other ones?
No.1838020
>>1838000They took the "yougoslavia 1000 states" focus tree path. It happened because no player wanted austria hungary, so dividing them into small groups would make it easier to conquer/exploit them and their mineral resources.
Also, ww1, the result was the complete destruction of austria hungary in small states in accordance with the treaty:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_Austria-Hungaryhttps://www.theworldwar.org/learn/peace/treaties-signed#:~:text=The Treaty of Saint-Germain,well as part of Poland.
Having concluded terms of peace with Germany, the Allies turned their attention to the remaining former Central Powers. The Treaty of Saint-Germain, signed on September 10, 1919, formally dissolved the Austro-Hungarian Empire and forced the new Republic of Austria to accept the independence of over 60 percent of its former territory. This territory included the new nations of Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia, as well as part of Poland.
Bulgaria signed the Treaty of Neuilly a couple of months later, losing territory to the new Yugoslavia and all access to the Aegean Sea. Hungary, now an independent state following its separation from Austria less than a month before the Armistice, lost two-thirds of its former territory and 58 percent of its population in the Treaty of Trianon, signed on June 4, 1920.
No.1838440
Thoughts on Charles Péguy?
No.1838615
Is materialist religion possible?
No.1838894
My faith in socialism has been completely, shot, destroyed, kaput. I thought it wouldn't happen again, but my worldview has been completely dismantled and changed. Now the only reason to go to this website is because it disagrees with me slightly less than /pol/ and there's no liberal version of 4chan.
No.1839034
>>1778960People who see the image as egotistical and "braindead" have never been around American midwest working class factory workers. I'm not saying 90%, but the majority of them really do lack critical thought, in my experience. It does make sense when you consider their developmental environment was nothing but cable television, mainstream internet, and American public education. I really struggle to believe they can be rehabilitated.
No.1840307
erm tengo pregunta
Does timekeeping under a socialist system make sense? Obviously better measures of productivity exist, like measuring in bushels for harvesting or number of colors painted for fine artists. Wait, is it *liberal* to track productivity? I am going to kill myself.
Think of jobs that have a time component though, for example a daycare where an adult always needs to be present. Is self-reported time tracking enough? Anyway, looking for shit that talks about productivity tracking in socialist economies. Please help me, it will prevent my suicide.
No.1841357
>no response to my question
I hate leftists
No.1841481
>>1840307There is no one "socialist system". Socialism is an engineering project so to speak. If you've ever seen any engineering project, you'll see that they're vastly different even when they're following highly thought out and precise engineering techniques and principles.
No.1841484
>>1835661I always use channel blocker on everything that is mildly liberal
No.1841485
>>1838894>My faith in socialism has been completely, shot, destroyed, kaput. I thought it wouldn't happen again, but my worldview has been completely dismantled and changed. Now the only reason to go to this website is because it disagrees with me slightly less than /pol/ and there's no liberal version of 4chan.new copypasta dropped
>>1840307>Does timekeeping under a socialist system make sense? yes. r we talkin bout le communist utopia or socialism? either way prob bob. its a real useful tool for meetin up w/ friends or schedulin events. its true its was born outta the need to schedule trade or what not in ancihent eghypt, bu i figure we can keep the cool stuff from the days, like the wheel for example, or fire.
>Wait, is it *liberal* to track productivity? yes
>I am going to kill myself.:(
>Think of jobs that have a time component though, for example a daycare where an adult always needs to be present. Is self-reported time tracking enough? no, i've worked a number of odd jobs across my life, from daycare to beach lifeguard, and the last thing u wanna do on these jobs is keep track of time urself. i'd try to look at my watch as little as possible, it helps time fly. my point is we cant rly on humans for shit like this, especialyl when we can use technology that'll be far less wrong then humans, such as le watch.
>Anyway, looking for shit that talks about productivity tracking in socialist economies. Please help me, it will prevent my suicide.good luck ill do google an b bck
>1841357u mad lil bro
No.1841487
>>1841481no
actually it is even stupider of a statement since you are invoking appeals to authority around empirical science when even those fields of science have strict definitions and criteria for determining what something is and specific principles and techniques for building their designs. like you wouldn't say there is many different ways to apply the laws of physics or something
No.1841492
>>1841487What the actual fuck are you even talking about?
Engineering projects aren't just made by applying "the laws of physics", you silly rabbit.
To construct a bridge, for example, you need to:
- abide by the law, which requires an understanding of the law
- survey the area
- do design and civil engineering plans
- do a cost analysis and get financing
- hire construction workers
- coordinate workers, ensure quality is maintained, safety standards etc
- coordinate acquiring supplies etc and payments
Not only that, engineering projects must constantly reckon with the conditions that are handed down to the people doing the project. A project planned for Some City, Japan, can't simply be copy pasted for Another City, Germany.
In this way, socialism is like an engineering project because it requires reckoning with what one has to work with, and building socialism with that, rather than simply imposing some system.
This is just scratching the surface. Please re-think your post in the light of me saying "engineering projects", and not "doing theoretical physics exercises in class".
No.1841517
was strasser just a racist social democrat?
No.1841521
>>1841517Not even that racist compared to Hitler or worse
No.1841522
>>1841521Talking of which who here knows about the Herero and Nama genocides of 1904 to 1908?
80% and 50% of the population respectively.
No.1841524
>>1841492what is and is not socialist is not open to interpretation, it is beholden to universal standards and necessities. also there is no such thing as unique regional differences in the construction of socialism, that's just laundering in revisionism
that being said, sure perhaps I am > posting and making too many assumptions about what you are saying that were not actually present in your reply so I apologize for that
No.1841618
Judaism seems to claim some form of divine Israelite ownership over the promised 'Land of Israel', a region approximately where Palestine is.
Explain how Judaism does not imply a form of Zionism. Can unconditional anti-Zionism and Judaism be reconciled without just ignoring obvious critical statements in their religious texts?
No.1842383
>>1841524>there is no such thing as unique regional differences in the construction of socialismwhat an absolutely fucking retarded thing to say, downright drooling moron tier
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