No.1845160
>the left
Not a real thing. Who should unite?
No.1845174
>Unite
this is been already debated so many times…
effective, popular action its not a related to a messianic, all-fixing "unity" of leftist parties. its about which of those parties is tactically willing (and able) to plan and undertake the revolutionary process
No.1845177
>>1845174also
>without Violenceabsolutely unaware of your own countries history
No.1845700
The only left unity i tolerate is the unity in thought of stalin and lenin.
No revisionists allowed
No.1845704
>>1845141Forgot where is the link other anon posted about the "financial crises" in the DSA in recent years, found this though:
https://capitalresearch.org/article/turmoil-at-the-democratic-socialists-of-america/ No.1845705
Read settlers by j sakai but only the first half
The south will rise again but communist
No.1845706
>>1845141you are living in 2017, these are the talking points and concerns of someone living in 2017.
No.1845707
One of the most important things for the left in the US is actually organize into unions and direct action, support the Palestine protests, fight against sinophobic hate and prevent the US from going into WW3. Both the Democratic party and the republican party are the same thing, and both want to fund Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan in their genocides and wars, while aging trade war into the world.
Idpol and other "reforms" are of little importance if we are all dead in nuclear war or ecological colapse.
No.1845745
>>1845141>the wonderful silver lining of living in the US is that we are in fact a blank slate we don't have bullshit cultural ties for people to cling toLol, lmao even
No.1845825
crazy how no one has ever thought of this
No.1845828
>>1845160Socialists and Communists working together is probably the implication which makes sense given how many Communist and socialist parties there are out there that are more or less the same ideologically, the hoxha-mao split, the sino-soviet split and even the trotsky-stalin split and it's subsequent purges are all functionally irrelevant to being a Communist today and even less so if you're not even living/organizing in the country where the dispute originated from
No.1845831
>>1845705Settlers sucks read Samir Amin
No.1845898
For a syndicalist you don't really embody the best aspects of our ideology.
>The Left Needs to Unite
The Left cannot, will not, and should not 'unite'. Left unity is a meme and everyone knows it, the only ones who still perpetuate this idea are Marxists that wish to maintain their dominance over the harbingers of true Socialism (Syndicalism) and those libertarians that have been tricked into believing the Marxist lies.
>communism is achievable on the US without Violence and I agree with him.
Untrue and inherently anti-syndicalist rhetoric, proletarian violence is a cornerstone of the syndicalist movement. The old and despotic society of the bourgeois must be cleansed away by blood, there is NO other way.
>we could be winning elections
Syndicalists do not desire to win elections or to participate in any way in the current system, this only serves to dilute our cause, turn the world back into the scourge of the bourgeois-socialist parliamentarians.
>I beg the greater Left to unify
I think it is enough if only the libertarian socialists unify, and then we can get to work building our cause back from the disastrous Leninist mismanagement
No.1845903
>>1845705Settlers is reactionary FBI shit
No.1846079
>>1845829More liek think tankie thread amirite
No.1846194
>>1845141>if the Left wants to become an effective political action block in the United StatesOkay but I'm not American
No.1846196
>>1846194Americans tend to think everyone online is American for some reason, not sure why.
No.1846198
>>1846196True. And I'll keep challenging them on this every time I see it, even if it achieves nothing.
No.1846431
>>1846198You will be much closer to adulthood when you realize that not everyone is talking for your benefit, and that your personal benefit isn't something that socialists are bound to obey.
Isn't it correct to kys for thinking that there aren't burgers who need to get something together?
No.1846438
>>1846196shut up, fucking mexicunt
No.1852550
>>1845141>the leftMalthusian libtards (anarchs) and socdems are a poison to the struggle. Because of them, the average worker believes Marxism is a degrowth philosophy where the goal is to steal everyone's money to give out 1:1 equally and we all live in dirt huts waiting for our bread ticket we earn from our 80 hour a week shifts in the factory. Nobody can own a car, we all live in cramped commie blocks and ect ect ect. These people are poison and have to be shut up. I don't even agree with the term "the left" because it tells you nothing.
M-Ls have a clear historical background and backbone of extensive theory. They need to be the ones leading the charge, not the dyed hair flag burners who's only goal is to make as many people hate them as possible.
No.1852570
>>1852550>Nobody can own a carThere should not be any private property if its possible in the DotP. If is impossible to make the people give up on their cars though, maybe some concessions will need to be made. All depends on the material conditions.
>and we all live in dirt huts There is no such things as a "dirt hut", better than nothing, in communist countries all over the world, homelessness was abolished, even though the pety bourgeoisie and middle class called those free apartment "dirt huts". Not that those adjectives matter anyway.
>waiting for our bread ticket we earn from our 80 hour a week shifts in the factory.There is no such thing as a bread ticket. Just as there is no such thing as a "80 hour week" in the soviet union. That would mean people would need to work 13+ hours for six days a week. But, officially, in the soviet union the average was only half of 80 hours. It was 40 hours per weak, consisting of five 7-hour days and a 6-hour saturday. With union permission administration had rights to extend working day till 10 hours, but it were much limitation and strong control.
> we all live in cramped commie blocks The same thing as in capitalism, instead we pay for extremely high rent and most people are in the streets. Complaining about the "commie blocks" is silly petit bourgeoisie behavior.
No.1852579
>>1852570The point that seems to have sailed over your head is that anarchists want Malthusianism neo-capitalism and are enemies to communism as a movement
No.1852580
The ""left"" achieved many things and will achieve many more in the future. The ""left"" is not "weak". Of course there were failures, and the left is its own most hard critique, but there is not so many "groups" that can be blamed for it, no scapegoats that will resolve what happened in the past. We just need to move on, keep the heads high, and keep on trying. The "left" doesn't need to prove itself again, and finding excuses or scapegoats for the errors of the past will not change anything.
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