/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1851715
USA and allied countries are definitely NOT like all the others you mentioned. In the western countries, the billionaires dictate terms.

>>1851716
Yes

>>1851722
expanding welfare doesn't stop you from being anticommunist, see PISS in Poland.

>>1851731
But BJP even has a worker/farmer wing that advocates for worker rights. They have never stated that they are anti-communist in any way. They are simple "investor friendly" like the Chinese.

>>1851741
There are lots of rightist and right party-affiliated labour unions.
You're not making a coherent point.

>>1851752
So what is the difference between Xinping allowing 800 billionaires and Modi allowing 300 billionaires but both keeping them on a tight leash? The main difference is that there are some pictures of Mao in government buildings in China. That's about it.

>>1851754
>So what is the difference between Xinping allowing 800 billionaires and Modi allowing 300 billionaires but both keeping them on a tight leash? The main difference is that there are some pictures of Mao in government buildings in China. That's about it.
Sincerely don't understand the significance you are implying this comparison has.

>>1851754
The difference is the incredible increases in the standard of living in China whereas India is still plagued by extreme poverty.

>>1851741
Wtf are you talking about? BJP is vehementlu anti Leftist, anti reservation, anti welfare, anti wealth redistribution, anti Maoism. You can't even compare them to Xi Jinping, more like to the worst years of Jiang Zemin

>>1851759
700 million have been lifted out of poverty in China

In India the number is 400 million.

Both countries have some poverty but both are rapidly getting rid of it. Don't spout indophobic points and be expected to be taken seriously.

>>1851763
>In 2024, China ($13,136) is almost 4.8 times richer than India ($2,731) on the nominal and 2.47 times richer in the ppp method. The per capita rank of China and India is 72nd and 141th, resp, in nominal. The per capita rank of China and India is 78th and 131th, resp, in ppp.

also there aren't anti-muslim death squads being endorsed by the government in china.

>>1851763
>Don't spout indophobic points and be expected to be taken seriously.
Top kek.
Back to twitter, back to reddit, etc. etc.

>>1851763
I know you are trolling but this is just false doe. BJP constantly tries to throw out previous poverty measures like that created by the Tendulkar Commission, and a lot of this is ironically because having an objective poverty standard would require them to give aid to Muslims who are overrepresented on the poverty benchmark. So India now just falsify poverty reduction using windfalls from the growth of the formal sectors to cover up wealth disparity. This is the same tactics used by the US to cover up the effect of Black and to a lesser extent Southern poverty in general.

>>1851762
BJP is anti-leftist because the left in India supports Islamism. BJP has maintained the system of Reservation and even expanded it in some states. It has doubled or tripled the amount of welfare spending. He is changing his tune on wealth redistribution/the billionaire class, which is the point of my original post.

Mao was a capitalist boolicker who worshiped Richard Nixon and the USA right wing to marginalize India on the world stage (because the soviets were transferring nuclear tech to India). This resulted in the chinese working class slaving for 70 hours a week so that americans can have cheap furniture and shoes.

This alliance between China and USA only broke down because trump started a trade war in 2018. Xi Xinping is still bowing down to every USA billionaire that will give him the time of day, like the humble slave that he is, following the footsteps of Mao.

The neoliberal newspapers publish daily cope and seethe articles against Modi while they ignore Xinping or praise him. That tells you everything you need to know about who is actually leading the titanic struggle against the billionaire class of the Global North.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)

>>1851773
Damn.
Please me under 18.
If you're an adult there is simply no saving you..
to reactionary for this world - to dumb for re-education. :(

>>1851754
>>1851741
>BJP
>worker rights
>Modi
>keeping them on a tight leash
lol
lmao

>>1851786
unironically yes

>>1856369
billionaires in india can do whatever the fuck they want

>>1851778
>to dumb for re-education. :(
Challenge accepted

>>1856369
modi power is built on tight collaboration with some porkies and giving them loot and government contracts, which then allow them to fund him you fucking retard
the other part of his power is built on hindu style fascism and anti worker crackdowns
kys

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202401/1304656.shtml

What are the implications of recent positive statements by the CCP controlled press about the Hindu Nationalist movement in India?

>>1856511
I recently visited India twice, marking my first visit in four years. During the trips, I found that India's domestic and foreign situation have changed tremendously compared to four years ago. India has achieved outstanding results in economic development and social governance, and its great power strategy has moved from dream to reality. However, potential risks and crises have also begun to unfold.

On the one hand, India has made great achievements in economic development and social governance. Its economy has gained momentum and is on track to becoming one of the fastest-growing major economies. Meanwhile, New Delhi has made progress in urban governance. Although the haze is still serious, the distinctive smell that hit you as soon as you stepped off the plane four years ago has generally disappeared. This suggests that public environment in New Delhi has improved somewhat.

During the talk with Indian representatives, their attitude toward Chinese scholars was more relaxed and moderate, instead of being stubborn at times. For example, when discussing the "trade imbalance" between China and India, Indian scholars used to primarily focus on China's measures to reduce the trade imbalance. But now they are placing more emphasis on India's export potential, actively seeking to reduce the trade deficit with China by taking the initiative and increasing Chinese imports from India.

>China once again supporting reactionaries over building communism
shock

>>1856512
Furthermore, with its rapid economic and social development, India has become more strategically confident and more proactive in creating and developing a "Bharat narrative."

In the diplomatic sphere, India has rapidly shifted toward a great power strategy. Since Prime Minister Narendra Modi assumed power, he has advocated for a multi-alignment strategy, promoting India's relations with the US, Japan, Russia and other countries and regional organizations. Now, India's strategic thinking in foreign policy has undergone another change and is clearly moving toward a great power strategy. Regarding the Russia-Ukraine conflict, India has distanced itself from the West and aligned itself more closely to the developing world. At the same time, India's reservations about Western powers have significantly diminished, and its activities within Western countries have become more frequent, extending beyond organizing large-scale diaspora events.

In the political and cultural spheres, India has moved from emphasizing its democratic consensus with the West to highlighting the "Indian feature" of democratic politics. Currently, there is even more emphasis on the Indian origins of democratic politics. Former National General Secretary of the Bharatiya Janata Party Ram Madhav, has stressed the need for "India's version of democracy."

India not only seeks to escape the "political dwarf" resulting from its history as a colony, but also wants to act as a "world mentor" both politically and culturally. In December 2023, the Indian Council for Cultural Relations organized the first "Knowledge India Visitors Programme," which brought together more than 77 scholars from 35 countries. Indian External Affairs Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar emphasized the importance of building a strong "Bharat narrative" and explained the "Bharat narrative" in terms of economics, development, politics, and culture. Obviously, India no longer only regards cultural tradition as a channel to achieve its own interests or as a symbol to attract foreign tourists, but also sees it as one of the pillars of India's status as a great power.

>>1856514
Changes like this in internal and external policy are in line with the logic of India's long-held policy. India has always considered itself a world power. However, it has only been less than 10 years since India shifted from multi-balancing to multi-alignment, and now it is rapidly transforming toward a strategy of becoming a pole in the multipolar world. The speed of such changes is rarely seen in the history of international relations.

India is indeed a major power, and rapid changes in internal and external strategies pose challenges to both itself and the international community. It appears that a transformed, stronger, and more assertive India has become a new geopolitical factor that many countries need to consider.

>>1856513
Modi is investigating Billionaires and speaking out against them openly now. You need to follow Indian politics more closely.

Indians being proud of their hinduism is as reactionary as native americans adhering to shamanism.

>>1856516
Casteism is nothing to be proud of in current year

>>1856518
even amedkar realised it couldn't be salvaged and went buddhist

>>1856518
So you are against people organizing based on their occupation? That's what a caste is. You know that right? Caste based associations and caste politics is how the middle and lower castes have taken control of India. Modi is from a lower caste himself and virtually none of India's 300 billionaires are brahmins.

There are "upper" castes yes. But there are way more "lower" castes and they are way more powerful now.

You need to analyze the situation in the indian subcontinent in an objective manner. A better analysis would involve supporting those castes/unions that are proletariat while opposing those castes/unions that are bourgeosie.

Being anti-caste in a blanket way is being anti-worker because these caste groups/clans are the only form of mutual aid and social support these workerss have, because the indian welfare system is still in its infancy.

>>1856522
Ambedkar was on the CIA payroll most likely

>>1856516
>Indians being proud of their hinduism is as reactionary as native americans adhering to shamanism.
No it's not. Islam and other religions are discriminated against in favor of hinduism.

>>1856526
>Dengoids literally supporting the Indian caste system if that means never, ever, EVER criticizing the CPC
Jfc
I literally didn’t know there was absolutely nothing inside you reprobate cunts

>>1856528
Islam, and to some extent, some other religions are explicitly anti-polytheist and preach that hindus are demon worshippers going to hell and should be converted or killed. Obviously, no self-respecting polytheist is going to let that kind of ideology run wild. India doesn't tolerate political islam, neither does China, Japan or even Bangladesh. Even in Pakistan, the anti-indian Imran Khan is sitting in jail.

There is a fundamental difference between Hinduism (which isn't against other gods like Allah) and Abrahamic relgions (which are against all other gods).

If Islamic preachers accepted hindus as people of the book or acknowledged that hindus also worship the same god instead of preaching genocidal hatred toward polytheists, we would be in a different situtation.

Even MBS from Saudi Arabia has condemned Salafism, which is basically all India is doing.

>>1856530
>Indian laborers can't have a mutual aid social network because my world history textbook taught me indophobic ideas
kill yourself

>>1856533
>Le caste system hierarchy is actually heckin wholesome solidarity because uhhhh brown people are doing it!
Oh yea, dengoids are retards
Forgot that for a second, carry on

>>1856536.

There is no hierarchy. Literally every caste group claims to be from some ancient king or priest. Nobody acknowleges anyone else to be higher than them. It's a politcal and economic free for all.

>>1856537
>Le caste system with no real place in the contemporary era has less power than when you could be killed on the spot for slighting an upper caste person?
<Must be that the caste system is actually a heckin based, wholesome system for solidarity
Dengoids irl

>>1856531
>If Islamic preachers accepted hindus as people of the book or acknowledged that hindus also worship the same god instead of preaching genocidal hatred toward polytheists, we would be in a different situtation.
That's been pretty much standard for centuries. Northern India was dominated by Muslim empires from the 12th century onward. If they wanted to genocide all Hindus or convert/kill them they would have done so already.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4311521

>>1856516
>Indians being proud of their hinduism is as reactionary as native americans adhering to shamanism.
Brainrot.

Hindu nationalists aren't really religious. They are more like Zionists trying construct a romantic idea of a pristine racially supreme nation by using religious scriptures and ancient texts as their resources instead. You couldn't have a conversation about Sanskrit metaphysics with a Hindu nationalist.

>>1856542
Pseudo history. Indian peasants and laborers have always held the real power in India. Virtually all the ruling dynasties come from peasant backgrounds. Have you ever even met an Indian person? Stop regurtitating wikipedia talking points. You might as believe that Chinese people use gutter oil.

>>1856531
what the fuck has any of that shit got to do with the reality on the ground? all religious texts and strict dogma have horrible shit. you can do similar dog shit analysis about the text of any religion. we're concerned here with socio-economic relations. back to /pol/

>>1856549
The reality is you can't let fascist pyramid scheme hate movements like Islamism take hold if you want to maintain social harmony and develop as a nation. That's why China, India, Japan all ban that shit. It is completely relevant to economic stability.

Guess we're doing the epic multipolar Modi stuff now. I should probably take a break.

First 'dengism', then zigger-ism, now comes the inevitable /leftypol/ hindutva arc.
Y'all ain't even seen realy multipolarity yet.

>>1856557
You're right. We should all support real socialists like Karina Garcia or AOC. The labor aristocracy getting a raise from 10 times chinese wage level to 15 times chinese wage level should be the goal of world communism.

>>1856558
>Get called on upholding BJP fascists because Global Times did and you struggle with any shred of independent thought
<Project and pretend that your opponents are you (opportunist cockroaches)
Based, I accept your concession, deng beetle (NTA tho)

>>1856546
>>1856537
look im not going to pretend i know much about indian history, society, or caste politics, but i have always lived around a large indian immigrant population and there is notable discrepencies between wealthy and poor indians that follow both caste and religious lines. ive heard indians be openly chauvinistic about being "upper caste" talking about being from a family of landowners instead of peasants, and indian christians talk about their family converting because thats how they escaped from caste restrictions. granted i couldnt follow a lot of it because indian caste society is far more complex than the meme version westerners are taught, but my impression of it is ideologically and materially heirarchical compared to what youre describing which sounds more like a clan system in which some clans end up wealthier and more powerful than others but arent unilaterally recognized as part of a privileged strata.

why does india keep oppressing kashmir?

>>1856572
There's lots of economic inequality yes. But very little of it has anything to do with caste or especially religion.

>>1856574
Why does the USA keep oppressing Texas?

If true why the fuck are yall so damn short?