/meta/ - Ruthless criticism of all that exists (in leftypol.org)

>>32251
If you don't like it, fuck off.
Annoying Me, Me, Me, faggot.

On the contrary, they should delete every board accept /edu/ and the rest of the links should be redirects to more popular sites so leftypoltards don't isolate themselves on a tiny corner of the wired in a little leftytard club house and make no effort to spread the message on actually relevant websites.

/edu/ had 16 IPs in the last week and zero posts, it's not a gooncave, it's just a cave.

Yeah, I really don't see why the content posted on /edu/ shouldn't be allowed on /leftypol/. It's better for it to be merged into /leftypol/.

>>32255
Content will get washed out by the bumplimit, obviously

>>32255
>>32256
I have an idea.
>the maximum number of leftypol threads that can be put up at a time is doubled somehow
>all /edu/ posts get crossposted (or "moved") on /leftypol/ and all replies on /leftypol/ get crossposted (or "moved") onto /edu/
The only question is who wants to pay for the server space? It aint gonna be me of course hyuck hyuck

>>32255
The rationale is probs that a lot of people won't see the effort posts drowned out by legitimate retards screaming 'based' and trying to share their twitter or reddit posts.

The post rate is relatively slow there should be only /Siberia/ existing.

>>32257
>the maximum number of leftypol threads that can be put up at a time is doubled somehow
Could be done without an issue. It's just a setting
>all /edu/ posts get crossposted (or "moved") on /leftypol/ and all replies on /leftypol/ get crossposted (or "moved") onto /edu/
That could require somethinkering to implement
> The only question is who wants to pay for the server space?
The server space itself isn't so much of a problem. The real issue is the backup space, of which we're already short of.
Right now, each backup is organized in chains, which start with a full backup and then incremental backups on the top of that. The boards are vulgarly classified in slow, mid, and fast boards. /leftypol/ is a fast board, with 3 chains each lasting a month, with daily incremental backups of 200+MBs, while /edu/ is a slow by heavy board, with incremental backups being taken sparingly and a single long chain.
The issue with the proposed implementation is that it would massively increase the backup space taken by /leftypol/

>>32258
/isg/ stuff is for /isg/

just delete leftypol

>>32252
They even gave him his own personal flag but its never enough.

>>32261
Why didn't you move this obvious meta discussion to /meta/ useless faggot mod?

This place keeps falling apart on its own. :/

I just use reddit or fbi.gov at this point. This site is fucking dead

>>32266
Yeah. I hate Musk for making Twitter unusable so much.

It was time to dismantle it years ago. Retiring /edu/ was a great idea then and almost too late now.

>>32264
Because I was hoping it was already dead lol

Oh, the thread moved here. I thought it was just deleted:
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Sideboards are a serious design choice. They were a smart decision at the time they were added to bunkerchan, and a poor decision to keep after the 2021 coup. Just like other tools, the same tactic can be great and useful, or it can drain a site just as easily

While post activity is very different, we can contrast leftypol.org with Ieftychan.net and nuclearchange.net (/GET/ is more of a lounge than a political site, so it's not really comparable to these sites centred around political discussion)
leftypol.org is the middleground - a couple of fast boards (/leftypol/, /siberia/) and 10 other boards. There is enough site activity that most of those other (listed) boards aren't dead, but half of them are inactive, and incidentally generic. A place where conversation dies, effectively. Most of these boards would be best off retired and redirecting to other boards elsewhere, or being generals on /leftypol/ or /siberia/.

Then there's nukechan, which I'm guessing either wanted to be focused or just knew they didn't have a population to risk spreading thin over specific boards. It just has two boards, /praxis/ and /social/, and despite a slow post rate, it feels much more active than other post-8chan sites with a similar number of users because they're all sharing a board. Not only that, but the main fastest board (every site has one!) isn't fueled by shitposting. The smart and meaningful posts are on the main board, not in some frozen tent in the backyard. Their /praxis/ is like /edu/ and /draw/ combined, so it leads to more cross-polination, like how 8ch days had all the old smarties and young arties all on one board and making OC like a motherfucker. I don't know if that's the intent, but I'd say it's already paying off. A new quiet site is already making the most of few users.

Then we have Ieftychan… while it actually has about the same number of boards as leftypol.org, the user count is so low. If Nuclear Change is the Ghost of /leftypol/ past, this is the Ghost of /leftypol/ future – where (as far as boards go, not disrespecting some actual innovations elsewhere) random novelties replace meaningful systematic redesign. That concept should be familiar to revolutionaries.
Ieftychan has more users than one might think, but they're spread so thinly that each board only gets a few bumps a day. The site would probably be better off only being two boards, /leftypol/ and /b/. I think this stems from, similar to .org's stubborn leadership, .net's nostalgic leadership, thinking back to a day when /i/ was a force to be reckoned with, /r9k/ was a popular meme factory, and 7/8chan boards would get fresh attention with ease, almost just by existing. But we don't have the hooks into other sites like 8chan/endchan/8moe/webring, nor a large userbase able to spread across boards like 420/7/etc., their tactics don't translate to our material conditions.

/edu/ as a sanctuary may have made some sense when we had the userbase to populate it. Since 2020, user count nosedived, quartered I'd say. Now all it does is braindrain /leftypol/ a bit and kill any conversations moved there early, unless its a non-socialist thread which will just get better attention elsewhere anyway.

/leftypol/ balkanized itself. Return to Yugo.

>>32279
Where is nukechan?

>>32282
Here
→ https://nuclearchange.net/index.html

>>32251
Bitch fuck off again to wherever you fucked off to and stay fucked off this time. /edu/ is fine as it is. Get a better idea to bring /edu/ to the rest of the board other than nuking it.

>>32285
Seems very slow unfortunately. I wonder if Discomrade is involved in this

>>32288
Look at the leftypedia thread. Moving it to /leftypol/ made people actually see it. You could make a similar case for the Reading Sticky.

>>32289
Their name is capcoded as Tech Staff in http://nuclearchange.net/social/thread/317.html#319 so they're definitely involved.
>slow
Yeah it's a shame. I think there are some good attitudes in the rules and FAQ and it's a refreshing change from edgy 'imageboard culture' but it's got no momentum yet. I'll give it a look tomorrow and chuck in a few posts.

>>32267
Was it not unusable from the start? Any meaningful conversation is only possible by abusing the site's core idea by dividing long posts into staggered threads or image text posts. And come to think of it, same with reddit. It was not designed for text posts, that's what forums were for. It was for sharing links to other content like news and videos.

>>32290
>>32290
>You could make a similar case for the Reading Sticky.
How about stickying the Reading sticky on the overboard, even as an experiment.

>>32291
I don't know how many people actually use the overboards.

how does the pic connect in any case

>>32279
>Ieftychan has more users than one might think, but they're spread so thinly that each board only gets a few bumps a day
In the sense that they are a couple psychotics who probably hang out on disc*rd servers.
Technically correct, the worst form of correct, remember that.

>>32289
>>32290
Hi, yeah I run the tech side and was involved in most of the design discussions.
>Seems very slow unfortunately.
That's one of the problems you can help fix! If you like the ideas, help make it a usable site.
Read the rules, lurk a few minutes and then post.

>>32279
>Then there's nukechan, which I'm guessing either wanted to be focused or just knew they didn't have a population to risk spreading thin over specific boards.
You nailed it: as >>>/siberia/518352 pointed out we intentionally limited the scope of the place. There are already sites like /GET/ and hobby boards for off-topic lounging and porn and other crap, no use being redundant and diluting the place.
Although it was just as much about the parts to mentioned afterwards, not just tossing all the book readers away in their own corner, not moving the drawfags away to their own isolated board no-one else visits. Put it all together on one main board. That's how you make use of the diversity of skills and collectively create a culture. Maybe even two boards is too many, it's hard to know.

>>32251
What a schizophrenic rant. And no, having /edu/ content on /leftypol/ will dramatically reduce the content quality as any retard can post a text-wall of garbage, forcing mods to dig through content that's actually worth keeping in order for the board to not be a shithole of bad takes and armchair nonsense.

>>32279
excellent post, though i'd dispute most of the side-boards were a good idea on bunkerchan. when hobby failed to set the heather ablaze the decision to add every other one was a mistake.
the only thing i have to add is the circumstance in which i think new side-boards could be desirable: if another community is about to go offline, or if there's a big controversy on 4chan which isn't ideologically at odds with this site, it's worth considering offering a side-board and advertising it to those userbases. (in the case of a smaller community this could be negotiated, in the case of a larger one i'd probably repurpose roulette opportunistically) because in those circumstances they may actually bring in more users instead of dispersing the existing userbase.

Aight

yes

/tech/, /music/, /draw/ and /AKM/ should be merged with /hobby/, I dont think thats even controversial opinion.

As for /edu/ and /leftypol/, I think merge would be for the best as well, if nothing else just to make the main board of this website a little presentable to newcomers. Imagine you are a leftist vising leftypol.org for the first time, you open the first board and all you see is bunch of news addicts flinging shit at each other, no wonder this side fails to attracts new blood.

>>32372
Respectively, /akm/ and /tech/ should continue to be their own boards, and I believe they have just enough activist to support that. Agree with everything else.

>>32372
/music/ should remain its own board but it should utilize a unique crossboard function where any webms or embeds you open in /music/ will play over other boards. This way people can visit music to play music and listen to it on loop, perhaps with a thread playlist feature, where it'll cycle through all the things posted within a single /music/ thread.

>>32382
> it should utilize a unique crossboard function where any webms or embeds you open in /music/ will play over other boards. This way people can visit music to play music and listen to it on loop, perhaps with a thread playlist feature, where it'll cycle through all the things posted within a single /music/ thread.
It's called having multiple tabs open.

Having side boards at all on a site with only 100 users is kind of…

>>32383
Reducing the number of tabs i have to keep open is the whole idea thoughever alongside incentivizing piracy. I usually have 4 or more tabs open with different porn sites so i prefer to minimize the number.

>>32385
>Reducing the number of tabs i have to keep open
You should almost never have more than 10. Anyone who has more should clean their room.
>I usually have 4 or more tabs open with different porn sites
That's called an addiction, and it's bad for your health.

>>32386
>You should almost never have more than 10. Anyone who has more should clean their room.
Well, it's also a sign that they might just not know how other tools like bookmarks/favorites, RSS feeds and the like work. So many tabs should just be RSS feeds.

>>32372
/games/ and /anime/ should also be merged into /hobby/ in my opinion, or /siberia/ if a thread happens to be nsfw.
I agree with >>32380 to keep /AKM/ and /tech/ though.

>>32739
>merge the active boards and keep the dead boards
ok

>>32386
>>32387
>stop having so many open tabs!
>stop watching porn!
lol why are you sad fucks so neurotic

>>32740
I don't care if they're dead or not, the thread discussions there are different enough compared to other boards.

>>32741
Are you familiar with the psychology term 'projection'?

>>32757
Am I familiar with it? Why, I think I invented it

>>32757
i dont think you know what either neurosis or projection mean cuz your post doesnt make sense. im being neurotic for telling you to stop throwing up your arms about sex? what?

nobody thinks about sex more than religious conservatives who hate themselves for being human and having those desires. and im not even a sexpositive person

>>32776
No-one's complaining about sex.