>>32401>However much you try to frame it as avoiding tedium, I'm going to read it as fear. In other words you don't actually care about what others think, just what fits your view of this.
> you imagine that they might actually "subvert" something I don't, it was visibly obvious.
>You imagine that infighting on a website is something to be feared, rather than something to be managed in pursuit of the most interesting discussion possible Does left unity ring a bell? We argue already as is, there's no point in throwing in a volatile catalyst to destabilize things and make every conversation a bitch-fest in the making, that's literally the opposite of helpful.
> the ability to argue for socialism contra social-democracy has fallen off a cliff since all the socdems, keynesians I'm not talking about petty welfare capitalists, as those people argue through economics, which is still something to debate, I'm specifically talking about liberals that promote idpol bait, because such topics are polarizing and its very easy to make an OP with a snide attack on the site's users, then scream "bigot" when people rightfully attempt to debunk such rhetoric. It happens Every. Single. Time. It doesn't contribute to arguments or theory, because it always devolves into circular arguments and denial and ends up as just people flinging shit and ad hominum and generally lowering the level of board discussion to the levels of 4chan (ironically).
>The more ideologically conformist it has become It's not conformist - people are constantly debating, arguing and discussing. People complain about shit like "muh Dengists" or "Muh ziggers" and ignore that those threads have heated discussions about socio-economic and political positions regarding those topics, and while there are some generally accepted positions, the details are gone over back and forth constantly.
>Bill Maher hosted a show by that name from 1993-2002Yes I know, but /pol/ was created in 2011 as a replacement for /news/ and /n/ a decade after Maher's show and right when the SJW vs Alt-Right shitfest was developing and when the term politically correct began being thrown around a lot, which is why politically INcorrect was the response.
>already a right-wing boogyman Huh? Political correctness is literally a liberal spook, it's performative nonsense no different from any other appeasement tactic.
>It doesn't matter if glowies come in because they can't subvert the basic dynamics of a site like this any more than they can subvert gravityThat is a statement that fucking glows because they can and have done such things. What the fuck do you think COINTEL PRO is for?
>nobody wants to be a reasonable adult on an imageboard Well that and also liberalism is only POSTURING, and have legs of clay
>If you aren't confident of dominating the board with a home-field advantage this big That's not it, we've fended it off multiple times, the point is that it gets tiresome in a way that bashing nazis isn't. The Nazi is either comedically inept and so a source of humor, or actually comes up with new material that forces people to learn. There's a Gay Nazi flag poster who is a nazi, and while they're told to fuck off for some takes, they also provide actual discussion that forces users to either respond properly and THINK or expose themselves as ignoramuses.
With liberals and glowies, it's always the same tired shit, the same fallacious methods of deflecting arguments, ignoring or dismissing proof and then repeating debunked or unproven claims, ad infinitum/ad nauseum. It's boring, it doesn't make me question my understanding of socialism, it just makes me want to reach through the screen and make them take their meds. It's like arguing with an alzheimer's patient with paranoid schizophrenia; They sound coherent initially to those unable to read between the initial lines, and when they're exposed and forced to face reality, they instead retract and start looping the same shit, leaving the only response being to not respond. But the problem is not responding results in such retarded ideas being allowed to be read and take root unchallenged, resulting in consensus cracking.
>Grow the userbaseI agree, but it's not something to rush into.
>It's no fun in the NKVD when you've got nobody to liquidate. It's no fun discussing foreign policy with people who'll only report to you that there's been another crushing victory for multipolarism after the Empire of Japan's crushing victory down at Iwo Jima. It's no fun, and that's the problem. LOL, for someone stating that you don't respect imageboard history, you sure are promoting a fairly oldschool concept of leftypol. I agree.
>If you'd like to keep going with thisNot really cuz I'm tired and I have work, but make a thread anyway, I'm sure others will chime in. Good night.