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>>29648
1. you really expect 40k to have logic?
2. they can't attack presumably, and the enemy could just go around them/fly above them/etc

>>29649
Aren’t these cunts known to invest heavily in anti air orbital defence systems anyways?

>>29650
I mean if you want realism, none of the combat in 40k would make any sense, every side has the ability to send relativistic FTL projectiles at their enemies that would obliterate entire planets with no possible defense.

Thats what I do in Ultimate Apocalypse when playing as Tau basically. Build a bunch of turrets to create a perimeter and then hold it with blobs of drones and vehicle support until I get to building heavy battlesuits and titans to push forward with powerful long range fire.

>>29651
On second thought since they seem to use wormhole drives (per Google) that might not work for FTL. Even still relativistic warfare seems like the best option.

>>29653
I think they cover that in Rocks Are Not Free Citizen or whatever that essay is called

>>29685
>Rocks Are Not Free Citizen
Correct name.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rocks_Are_Not_Free!

"
Rocks are NOT ‘free’, citizen.

Firstly, you must manoeuvre the Emperor’s naval vessel within the asteroid belt, almost assuredly sustaining damage to the Emperor’s ship’s paint from micrometeoroids, while expending the Emperor’s fuel.

Then the Tech Priests must inspect the rock in question to ascertain its worthiness to do the Emperor’s bidding. Should it pass muster, the Emperor’s Servitors must use the Emperor’s auto-scrapers and melta-cutters to prepare the potential ordinance for movement. Finally, the Tech Priests finished, the Emperor’s officers may begin manoeuvring the Emperor’s warship to abut the asteroid at the prepared face (expending yet more of the Emperor’s fuel), and then begin boosting the stone towards the offensive planet.

After a few days of expending a prodigious amount of the Emperor’s fuel to accelerate the asteroid into an orbit more fitting to the Emperor’s desires, the Emperor’s ship may then return to the planet via superluminous warp travel and await the arrival of the stone, still many weeks (or months) away.

After twiddling away the Emperor’s time and eating the Emperor’s food in the wasteful pursuit of making sure that the Emperor’s enemies do not launch a deflection mission, they may finally watch the ordinance impact the planet (assuming that the Emperor’s ship does not need to attempt any last-minute course correction upon the rock, using yet more of the Emperor’s fuel).


Given a typical (class Bravo-CVII) system, we have the following:

Two months, O&M, Titan class warship: 4.2 Million Imperials

Two months, rations, crew of same: 0.2 MI

Two months, Tech Priest pastor: 1.7 MI

Two months, Servitor parish: 0.3 MI

Paint, Titan class warship: 2.5 MI

Dihydrogen peroxide fuel: 0.9 MI

Total: 9.8 MI


Contrasted with the following:

5 warheads, magna-melta: 2.5 MI

One day, O&M, Titan class warship: 0.3 MI

One day, rations, crew of same: 0.0 MI

Dihydrogen peroxide fuel: 0.1 MI

Total: 2.9 MI


Given the same result with under one third of the cost, the Emperor will have saved a massive amount of His most sacred money and almost a full month of time, during which His warship may be bombarding an entirely different planet.

The Emperor, through this – His Office of Imperial Outlays – hereby orders you to attend one (1) week of therapeutic accountancy training/penance. Please report to Areicon IV, Imperial City, Administratum Building CXXI, Room 1456, where you are to sit in the BLUE chair.


For the Emperor,

Bursarius Tenathis,

Purser Level XI,

Imperial Office of Outlays.
"

>>29653
Light speed still means waiting like 30, 50 years for it to get from some system not even that far off in 40k terms. Warp travel makes it trivial. However
>>29686
doesn't explain why not just drag the damn rock through the warp, put a fucking geller field around it if you must, then drop it. I guess the idea is these unobtainium made planet killer weapons are cheap and plentiful.

But that's not even the problem. The biggest problem is combination of fleet battles and the stupid ass between WWI and WWII tier tactics employed by any side in a conflict. It's even funnier when everyone is called "a tactical genius" and it literally just consists of fucking line fire, or at best a feint.

Actual warfare is still going to be much like firing relativistic weapons, space rocks, Rods of God, dyson sphere energy weaponry and the like on the micro to macro scale. See also why the F-16 being faster than the F-35 doesn't mean jack shit and how they would lose miserably to modern fighters and you begin understanding how actual battles would ultimately work. Anyone with super far off weapons wouldn't even see each other.

The only excuse for this is duh durr hurrrr but we only got servitors for that not REAL computers that doesn't even make fucking sense and other factions like Tau and Eldar would still have them.

>>29649
40k is meant to be cheesy and dumb as hell. They literally have to fly through hell to make the central premise make any sense at all. Which is a lot funnier considering they tried handwaving this shit with multiple FTL technologies.

>>29686
>the Emperor will have saved a massive amount of His most sacred money
heh