No.26864
how is it any different than SFM
No.26866
Isn't this kind of functionality common in gacha games?
How long until you get to play as the real Gillaume le Million?
No.26868
>>26864There's a huge tonal disparity between what the game is about and this recently added mode.
No.26869
>>26868and also the fact this got added after the whole fiasco with the shareholders
No.26870
>>26868What's so bad about it, let people do what they want.
No.26872
>>26870What's bad about the company adding a wacky XD feature right after the creators got kicked out and will not receive a single penny from any future sales? Dunno.
No.26873
>>26870as much as capitalism insists on it, corporations arent people
No.26874
>>26873I meant people using the feature
>>26872That has nothing to do with this though. Also isn't there some other people who were also original devs saying that those people's claims were BS?
No.26875
>>26874>That has nothing to do with this thoughUh, right, the parent company taking over an IP and adding random shit without the input of the original creators is irrelevant information.
No.26876
>>26875I doubt the original devs are seething over this inclusion in particular
No.26878
"it’s pretty fucking sad to rob an author of a universe he’d been working in for over a decade, steal a game from the core creative team that made it happen, and then appear to have such a large amount of trouble figuring out what to do with it that you add a Meme Making Mode"
No.26880
Can someone explain what it means to be a "majority shareholder" and a "minority shareholder"? Apparently Kurwitz and his buddy are minority shareholders.
No.26881
>>26877It's also going to lose its critical edge. It's socialist elements are probably going to be spoonfed instead of the clever way it's woven in the story.
No.26882
>>26880Shareholders with varying influence over the company they own stocks over. Typically majority shareholders are actively managing companies while minorities are just betting on their success
No.26883
>>26882I imagine when the creative core of the game wanted to make this game, funding wise they had to throw in whatever lot they had saved up with the bulk of the cash coming from this CEO guy and other companies. Part of me wishes they remained totally independent and started a cooperative but I guess a game developer cooperative isn't so easy to start especially with publishing and shit.
No.26888
>>26883>>26880>>26882To put it in absolute terms; a majority shareholder owns the majority of the company, therefore they can do whatever they want with it (as long as they don't intentionally destroy the business), minority shareholders don't make management decisions (unless they group together to make a majority) or are on the board, etc
No.26889
>>26886lol
it's a fitting end for Disco Elysium ig
No.26920
>>26895Is it? Last I heard they got all replaced by a bunch of Americans and Europeans.
No.26926
>>26895there's literally nothing worse than an estonioid
No.27725
>>26895>>26863TBH I kind of like how ZA/UM's story ended.
Tragic. Romantic.
It felt very 'true to form'. Fitting in tone.
In the day of reaction. of the liberal pederast, in which we live, it could never have ended in another way.
No.27729
>>26926Estonians are fun, we went on a company trip there and the estonian guy stayed in his room for the entire 3 days drinking.
No.27926
>>27924
>>27925
just delete it
No.28078
is there a quick rundown for how exactly the developers who started the company lost control of it? was it just desperation for funding and selling too many shares?
No.28079
I hate the gamer centrism surrounding DE, like, "the main creators were kinda rude during development and the CEO literally stole $5M from the company, restructured it on handshake deals and fired the founders to take over their passion project, this means both sides are bad".
No.28080
>>28078Basically they couldn't make the game without outside funding, then there was some chicanery
No.28081
>>28079who has this opinion?
No.28082
>>28078They took out a loan from ZAUM to pay for the purchase of a controlling stake of ZAUM, then bought the IP rights from ZAUM using that controlling stake for $1 and paid themselves and the company back by selling the IP rights back to ZAUM for $4.5M. Which is straight up theft. They used company funds to adjust the structure of the company then used that control to steal company funds to pay themselves back.
No.28083
>>28081This PMG video is fleshing out the side of the ZA/UM employees who claim the creative leads (Rostov, Kurvitz, Hindpere) were difficult to work with.
This attempt to "both sides" two different arguments (This Company Was Stolen Illegally/Robert Kurvitz Is A Bad Boss Who Needed to Be Fired) have lead to people proclaiming both sides are shitty, and to be sure, Kurvitz definitely comes across as shitty, if not also somewhat sympathetic.
To me anyway, the issue has always been them stealing the company thru shady financial fuckery, not about the moral character of Robert Kurvitz. That is something he needs to work out with his fellow workers, not have that be the opposite side of "These people are financial criminals".
Whether or not we get a DE2 (and I don't think I'd want one given the circumstances), it's not right the dude got his life's work swiped from under him.
No.28084
>>28077not finished yet, but had to stop in the middle of the ilmar interview bc of work. holy fuck, this vc guy is either an idiot, a manipulative mastermind, or overconfident.
No.28090
>>28082That sounds prosecutable tbh.
No.28091
>>28090Ah but you forget this is shithole Estonia. Also apparently the guy is politically connected
No.29735
>>28077This video was quite good that brought up a lot of the obvious critiques of that video.
No.29736
>>29735>>28083oops. video will not embed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDtfcknELe0<a response to pmg's disco elysium investigation | stushi No.29737
>>28103were you not here for all that "women are a privileged class they control sex and need to be distributed to cure incels" bullshit
No.29831
>>26877Wait, Disco Elysium: Battle Royale is real?
No.29833
Reminder: If Disco Elysium 2 ever comes out, it will feature unironic use of term "late stage capitalism".
No.29844
>>29833wait hold on, is the term flawed in some aggregious way? I've used that unironically before. Like, it makes sense capitalism would start acting different on it's last legs.
No.30112
>>29844ive always thought it sounded presumptuous in that it assumes we somehow know for a fact that we are getting towards the end of capitalism, and is misleading in the sense that the way society is shaped by reproduction of capital is not based on some definitely half-life of the mode of reproduction, but on the peculiarities of its functions, which are themselves historically contingent. the other side of that coin is that it assumes that the way capitalism operates necessarily breaks down simply through the passage of time, despite the fact that the fundamental laws of capital reproduction remaining the same throughout history, whether or not it is the dominant mode of production
No.30113
>>29844its a dumbfuck way of framing capitalism, almost as bad as "neofeudalism"
No.30121
>>30113this is splitting hairs
No.30123
>>30122I mean TBH I feel capitalism is different today than it was say before WW2, sure the basic principles are the same but how they're expressed is different, the focus has shifted completely to rentierism, casual work, scamming as a major part of the economy, and so on, the decline in the ROP has made a post-industrial economy where most of the focus is in real estate and other imaginary capital.
No.35209
Which version should I pirate? Original VAs or Rerelease?
No.35213
>>35209og has everyones favorite podcasters. New one has experienced voice actors.
No.35214
>>35209I only played the re release but the voices were good.
No.35216
>>35213>NYC trustfund babies or people who know what they're doingeasy choice to me
No.35218
>>35209Definitely rerelease, these is a reason why they redid the voiceacting the moment they got the budget for it.
>>35211I remember that decision, I picked the last option. My playthough was trying to be a communist while steering Harry clear of the deep end.
No.35219
>>35218>I remember that decision, I picked the last option. My playthough was trying to be a communistBut the decision 2, "we should ground the *owners* into fine paste and feed them to the pigs." to be more "communist" style, but anyways, can see the logic. Gonna try that option in next playthough.
Also, i got pic rel. Yay
No.35221
>>35218>>35219Yeah you can be mostly reasonable and not pick crazy answers and still easily get communism beliefs. But congrats anon.
No.35223
>>35219>>35222You should do a blind playthrough first tbh.
No.35234
>>35219I kind of love they made Mazovian socio-economics to be just a pure burden. You need to pick 50 communist conversation options for it to even pay for its malus, 75 really to also compensate for purchasing the addition thought slot, only then it starts actually providing any benefit. So 100 communist options in order to earn a single skill point. I dont even know if there are that many in the game.
No.35236
>>35209original Kuno is better, but other than that I'd say the rerelease is better. I don't like the narrator, but luckily you can turn him off
they should've given each skill its own voice
No.35306
I have been calling other socialist groups in the last few months as book clubs
Never knew this was a Disco Elysium reference
No.35319
the "social democrats" are one of the most disgusting people in this place. My expectations were from 100 and now they are basically 20.
No.35320
>>35306allegedly communist organizations being glorified book clubs is an old problem
No.35321
Wait i get a tape, this is getting complicated
No.35322
I think the hardie boys will kill her when i an gone
No.35324
>>35323sometimes it's hard to square my general affection for police style stories with my hatred for the police
No.35325
>>35324theyre fictional idealized cops so its fine. the rest of the cops in the setting are terrible too anyway
No.35326
>>35324It doesn't feel like i am a "police" officer, it looks like i am a poor asshole suicidal old man in his 60s who doesn't know the fuck he is going though and is quite scared about anything. You make him sit in a shit chair in front of a fat man and he might just go completely insane.
Kim is just a very normal guy.
Both of us don't have guns
kim has a pistol, but only 2 or 3 bullets in there, backup, are far far away from civilization in a place no one cares about the police, and being threatened by a bunch of people. Also the protag don't even have money to stay in the night. Protag live in the dumpster, don't eat, put drugs on his vain to stay sane and talk with the voices in his head all the time, even in his sleep. He is fudged up
No.35327
>>35326I mean yeah the protags from DE are definitely different from typical police in stories but at the same time I can understand why the Hardie boys treat you like an asshole, but as the player I still feel kind of pissed off at them.
No.35330
>>35327I think is mostly an act, they are trying to look dangerous and look like people that would hang a man. They are not like that, complete assholes, at least most of the time.
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