No.12171
>>12170I think so, it's been years since I last watched LOGH.
No.12257
>>10740>the remake was a disappointment Inferior, but still pretty good. if it exposes new people to the original all the better. I'll watch season three this year to see if it improves.
And for all its faults the remake has better scripted pilot episodes by a mile, pretty important for a series imho.
No.12269
>>10740>>12257>the remake was a disappointment both in the art and the plot emphasis (great OP for what it was worth). The remake plays the notes of the story through a neoliberal vocoder is the best I can describe it.>Inferior, but still pretty good. if it exposes new people to the original all the better.OK, I guess now I'm watching the remake too, then. I know it's not gonna be as good the original but I don't want to rewatch that one just yet and I'm starving for new content. (Not very interested in the Gaiden series, at least not yet. Might read the novels tho, but are they even in English?)
>And for all its faults the remake has better scripted pilot episodes by a mileWhy is that?
No.12277
>>12269Original series constantly jumps between alliance, empire, and fezzan in ep 1 and 2, while Reinhardt is already aware he is facing Yang. While typical of lotgh to opt for this more distant, expository storytelling, it does take the tension out of the engagement as shown.
In the remake, episode one is restricted to Reinhardt only, with a cliffhanger just as (a still unknown) Yang introduces himself. Then episode two gives you Yangs pov and the conclusion. It's a solid device to hook your audience, and gives the series a fittingly theatrical introduction. This approach works against the remake in the long run, since the larger story doesn't lend itself to these conventional tropes by and large. But it's a solid way to kick things off with a bang.
No.12291
>>12277I see, thanks.
OK, I'm downloading season 1 right now.
btw is there a reason why the second and third seasons are being released as films?
No.12310
>>12277>>12257But hey, huh, isn't the first "episode" actually the movie
My Conquest is the Sea of Stars? I think that one's a much better introduction to the series but it doesn't look like everyone realizes that's meant to be watched first. I actually watched it
after.
No.12321
>>12310Yeah, but as you say people don't tend to realise it. Best way to watch today would be conquest, overture, then episode three and on. Or even just starting at overture if you're looking for accessibility tbh
No.12326
I'm happy that more people are talking about this anime on this board and that this thread has been active lately. Although I still wish I had gotten into it sooner. Maybe I could've reacted in real time on /a/ when the remake came out, cuz there's a lot of minor stuff that I hate about it so far.
No.12356
>>12326Season three soon comrade! We'll do much complaining I'm sure. Or maybe praise, if they step up their game a bit (one easy win: expanding the ost in stead of repeating the same three tracks), we'll see.
No.12360
>>12356>repeating the same three tracksHoly shit, I thought it was just me who wasn't paying attention to the soundtrack.
This OST is such a massive downgrade from the original, but I suppose that's just stating the obvious.
Also I wish they would stop adding music when it's not necessary (such as when someone is talking but nothing else is going on), it's distracting and cheapens the battle scenes, at least in the first season which is where I'm at. Is this an attempt to make the boring dialogue more "engaging" or dramatic?
I also liked the first OP
Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now especially because I'm sick of generic j-rock/j-pop anime OP songs, but it's still unfitting IMO. The ending song is alright I guess.
Anyway, looking forward to season 3.
No.12581
I'm reading the novels right now and the plot in the """remake""" (more like re-adaptation) is actually much closer to the original source than the old OVAs, so I take back a bunch of what I thought about it initially.
>>10740>The remake plays the notes of the story through a neoliberal vocoder is the best I can describe it.How so?
No.12687
>>12581I don't get that either. There's a lot worse about the remake (though I refuse to call it bad, it's just a legitimate cheesy take on the story), but the politics are mostly the same
No.12844
>want to show this anime to someone
>doubt there are any subs in our language
>there are, actually, but they're shitty because they're based on the older, more inaccurate subs and because I personally didn't like them for a variety of reasons
And that's how I ended up subbing the first episode of an 110 episode long series. It only took me half a month, maybe I can finish the rest by December!
No.12848
>>12844Post your fansub Ep1 dude.
No.12852
>>12844Absolutely based. Remember to upload a torrent to nyaa for posterity.
No.13348
>>12844You're the hero that old anime deserves, what language btw.
No.13505
>>12848Sure, but I want to wait until the first few episodes, and possibly also the first movie, are done to start uploading them. I'm also getting feedback from some of my friends to see if my translation sounds right. I could post some screenshots though (just please wait until I get on that PC).
>>12852Of course, that's just what I plan to do.
>>13348Spanish.
In case you're interested in the process:
The old Spanish subs are just translated from the old English subs by Central Anime, but as far as I know, the guy who did these didn't know Japanese (at least at the time), so he couldn't have possibly corrected or even noticed the translation errors found in CA's subs. This renders some scenes in the first few episodes straight-up incomprehensible. Add to that some punctuation and spelling errors sprinkled throughout the script, and the fact that it's European Spanish (as opposed to Latin American); the former is irritating (to me, kek) and can lead to some confusion, and the latter makes it a bit harder for the average Latin American to process each line due to differences in vocabulary, grammar, and so on. And lastly, it's a hardsub. These are all the reasons why I decided to do my own version.
At first, my subs were just going to be directly translated from MTBB's correction of Sentai Filmworks' official English subs:
https://nyaa.si/view/1200083 https://nyaa.si/view/1337263#com-19But after encountering some ambiguity in several lines, and using my limited Japanese skills plus some research to figure out the intended meaning or find a more appropriate Spanish translation, I started to translate some lines a bit differently from the English subs as I see fit, and as long as my Japanese allows me to. I also use the novels (both the English version and the original) for reference. In general I did a lot of research when I started, both from English to Spanish (the most difficult part so far has been the military ranks and other military-related terms and phrases) and from Japanese to Spanish. This took a lot of time.
So that's why translation progress has slowed down lol
However, I'm using OmegaT to make a Translation Memory + a glossary so the more I translate the easier it should be to translate more episodes.
No.13726
I found this note in the script for episode 2 kek
>>13347basado
I like that Yang, a character of Chinese descent from a Japanese SF novel, is quoted by this character who is of Japanese descent in a Chinese SF novel. Quite a funny coincidence, isn't it?
No.13742
Die Neue These season 3 episode 1 dropped yesterday on Crunchyroll btw
(Of course, its premiere was in Japanese theaters on March 4)
No.13853
/a/ has the shittiest, most infantile takes on LotGH. I'll never participate in one of their threads again, lmao
No.13854
>>13853>going on /a/ for good discussionThe only /a/ threads that aren't total trash (or at least not when I used to go there) were threads for Naruto, One Piece and for some reason Louise the Zero.
- Dragon Ball? Latinos shitposting and being fags
- Hunter x Hunter? circlejerking over the same shit over and over again
- Tanya the Evil? "Ohhh I luv anticommunist cunt-loli!" (see
>>795 thread)
- Konosuba? The same dead reddit memes about useless Aqua and lolicon cravings over Megumin
- Gundam? Same generic takes over and over again about literally nothing
- Evangelion? Asuka v Rei, HOAD, Kaworu uvu and more shit takes.
- Every classic old anime? "Totally not that deep fag! Stoopid leftist materialism, let me fap to my rightoid fantasy!"
The only reason AoT isn't mentioned is because it got memed the fuck out.
No.13857
>>13854I'm glad that the far-rightiod fags who self-insert as Arin got totally whiped out. I feel like the author is just some dumb lib who overly valorized some fascist asshole MC Mary Sue and wanted to knock him down a peg despite how illogical it was.
No.13861
>>13857Yeah I think the author realized he'd been going too hardline fascist and decided to just keep on cucking the MC.
No.16402
>>3863Nearly the whole thing was leading up to social liberal propaganda.
No.16440
>>11342>it is not as anti democracy as many people claimIt's actually more anti-democratic than people probably even realize. Because it does the historically-ignorant thing where it conflates republican oligarchy with democracy when in fact for two thousand years after Aristotle it was understood to be its opposite. This old bait-and-switch is one of the most calamitous errors of modern politics and most people commit it in total ignorance after having been brainwashed since childhood by Jefferson's Orwellian disciples.
No.16509
>>3863The series thesis is not consist of dialectical materialism but Republic-Caesarism cycle. Not a good education. Ngl Alliance should've ended with Yang agreeing to lead the coup & establish a military Soviet.
Unfortunately, Yang didn't want that. That's the mistake. But the franchise didn't frame his value as an error yet inevitability. That's ultimately still Japanese nihilism.
But of course, it's still debunked the end of history doctrine before its time.
Yang ideology however, proven incorrect & should've been depicted as such. Then it can be a critic of militarism because ultimately it disheartens people to the prospect of progress. As a historian, Yang couldn't have overlooked the material contradictions of his country yet he choose for idealization of values, is pretty much a fatigue of social conscience that plagues even someone like him. THAT is the real tragedy.
Yeah, resign after take office for a certain time is a good precedent (since Yang is so pro-democracy). But tbh there's a lot need to be fix affirmatively in Alliance (like what kind of solar system that lacks food, how its development & how its distribution). From that foundation alone, the Empire better off than them. Because their domains mostly consist of agrarian feudal states.
No.18683
>>12145They reference a "commune" at one point when on Iserlohn
No.18684
>>18683Commune is also a common administrative division
No.18837
>>3863>Have any of you guys ever seen this?"Sometimes it gets so hard without you…it seems to me, the whole world's away"
Absolutely Beautiful, I started it in late Nov and finished it towards the end of January and thought it was the peak of anime, the death of Yang was really hard to watch, inducing genuine anxiety and the feelings of foreboding in me. The critic in me would have rather both Reinhard and Yang to have lived though, and prefers the show prior to the culmination of the Terra assassination. After watching the first two movies, I think I'll watch the new series before finishing all of the old stuff to savor the older experience.
No.18871
Good anime. I watched it years ago but I'm thinking about rewatching it again.
No.20763
>>20761>screaming about loli out of nowherefuck off
No.20775
>>20763>This retard doesn't recognize the "take a seat" reference>Doesn't recognize the "1000 year old vampire/demon loli" joke that's been staple of weeb community humor for decades>Immediately gets defensive about "muh loli"Sounds like you got something to hide schizo-newfag. Lurk moar and relax your anus.
No.20782
>>20761I want her to shoot me uwu
No.21806
>>10688I think that these scenes were definitely an influence on OG Evangelion's battle bridge look
No.24250
Reposting 7ko's question in the relevant thread
>Are Wenli and Reinhard in LoGH supposed to represent the Confucian-Legalist dialectic?
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