No.2478
Thread to talk about drone warfare in general.
There are many ways drones can be used but I would like to talk about their potential use in protests and riots in the west.
In my experience something that is sorely lacking in protests going wild is intelligence about police postions, while the bad guys usually have a QG with plenty of operators gathering and distributing intelligence to police officers trough cameras, helicopters and, you guessed it, drones.
So, what's keeping us from using drones? Those for kids which are 50 bucks on amazon could do the trick, it would take a team of two, one pilot and one operative relaying intel trough a phone or a radio to someone in the front of the protest.
I know there are anti drone weapons, but they don't work that well and these aren't well established yet. In case of capture though it's good to prevent or render difficult a trace, so it would be smart to buy those drones trough proxies and false adresses, and scratch whatever number they have on them.
No.2479
> There are many ways drones can be used but I would like to talk about their potential use in protests and riots in the west.
whenever I hear people talk about this I wonder what on earth they're on about. cities already have static surveillance methods, drones don't add anything particularly meaningful to that. police already have helicopters, what does a drone add to that that didn't exist in the 80s
we were all alive during the last big rounds of riots right? if anything the only drones were ones owned by media coloring the action, which is its own problem but has nothing to do with drone warfare qua warfare
No.2480
>what's keeping us from using drones?
The US has started regulating the use of drones by the public.
No.2481
>>2480this has literally done nothing fyi, the scant handful of internet nerds who obey fcc rules on it are all avowed losers
No.2482
>>2479>static surveillance methodsYes, it works because when drones are detected the police can be sent. The police can't be sent when there are massive protests or riots ongoing.
>if anything the only drones were ones owned by media coloring the actionAn issue that will be tackled, hence this thread.
No.2483
>>2482
> The police can't be sent when there are massive protests or riots ongoing.what are you even talking about, the default behavior in the west to anything is always "deploy as many cops as possible" to every single thing, and police routinely get deployed to quell riots in the US
if you're just starting to pay attention to police action in the US I suggest you look at some of the footage and manuals unicorn riot puts out
No.2501
>>24801. GPS Jammers
2. COMMS Jammers
3. Drones Designed to capture others with nets
4. Registration requirements
5. Apps that want to notify FAA on locations of drone and operator in real time.
6. Risk of legal compliance for this whole thing.
7. Drones can be legal and people will call the cops just because they don't like the buzz and they don't like the youth.
No.2502
>>2478"50 bucks on amazon could do the trick"
0-50 Tiny ball, no correction, no gps
50-150 minimum flight, weak camera
450 Strong DJI Phantom
1K +- 0.5K 8motor multirotor of Ukraine with Ardupilot.
No.2503
"scratch whatever number they have on them."
Internal chips we can't see with serial numbers on the physical chip like batch numbers and in storage for the CPU.
Bluetooth sniffing for phone to drone controls that anyone can see
Wireless sniffing for FPV cams over Radio frequency with real time video and data for all to see
No.2505
Ignoring security issues, the biggest problem is battery life, they can't fly for very long.
No.2566
>>2505Predator drones use gas as the moving power and batteries for the electronics. The energy density was higher in oil based fuel.
No.2579
Drones good enough to get useful info are expensive, and the person using it will get targeted by enemy netrunners and the local PD if they capture it.
Theres also the risk of it being disabled, falling and headshotting a comrade.
Info is useless unless people act on it, and if they actually do something with your info you've just made yourself an accessory to whatever the police blame the crowd for.
For that matter, how are you gonna spread the info? A volunteer fallguy with a loud speaker? Can you trust him to not rat you out?
Unless you've fully committed to being some kinda on the run fugitive for the rest of your life its extra trouble for no tangible gain.
No.2606
>>2479>what does a drone add to that that didn't exist in the 80sThey need an eye in the sky, not a human in the sky:
1. Humans weigh a lot. Why not spend 90 KG on more fuel.
2. When you drop a human onto a craft, it suddenly has to be very safe. See NASA.
3. Humans are big, technology is small. Why have this empty cockpit?
4. Helicopters spend their time circling over lake squish. Circling for 2 hours is boring and may or may not make someone dizzy.
Assorted capacities:
1. Portable solutions for Rural environments that lack CCTV.
Money:
1. Helicopters cost more than drones. They cost more to buy and repair.
2. Helicopter operators cost more than drone operators.
3. Drone crashes are cheap to repair compared to Helicopters as drones are tiny.
4. The bigger the grant, the fewer options there are. Any grant no matter how small can get you just one more drone.
No.2607
>>2478>So, what's keeping us from using drones?Power asymmetry. At least in Russia they have GPS spoofing, area-wide jamming equipment, anti-drone microwave guns, hunter-catcher drones and whatever else. OTOH, these measures are limited in coverage, so wide-scale, distributed protests could use some birds unnoticed.
No.3906
China's massive Divine Eagle drone is supposedly meant to locate and possibly hunt stealth aircraft. It's an interesting usage of drones, and speaks to an advancement in drone air-to-air capabilities, considering that 2 decades ago manned fighters were easily shooting them down (the Iraqi MiG-25 taking out the American Predator drone)
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/divine-eagle-china-s-massive-new-drone-designed-to-seek-and-destroy-f-35s https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/shenying.htm No.4089
What are the typical cheap drone models being used in Ukraine and can be found online?
No.4098
The Geran/Shahed drone is one of the most effective weapons in this particular conflict, not because it's particularly accurate or fast, or otherwise impressive from a technical aspect, quite the opposite in fact. It is slow, silly, dirt cheap and easy to produce (two-stroke motorcycle engine) and technologically simplistic by comparison to drones like the Bayraktar or Switchblade. Yet it's armed with a such big warhead that you can’t ignore it, and isn't very large, making it a small, low-flying target. This puts those on the receiving end in a very tough spot: the cost of shooting it down is a lot more than the drone itself if SAMs or MANPAD's are expended on it, yet letting it hit is just as costly. Now to be fair Anti-Air Artillery would be useful here, and a CIWS system like the Phalanx would be certainly effective, but that's hard to place in a city without it possible hitting surrounding tall buildings.
People are already making model kits for them, they're that famous
https://loveardsk.life/product_tag/90710318_.html No.4114
>>4098The Shahed is a licensed copy of a 1980s German anti-Radar loitering drone from Dornier (pics related). The ARD-10's design was SOLD to Israel and later Iran (in 2005), so they both legally produce variants of the design, and Russia produces a variant as well. That isn't a "clone" that is a legal production of a design. Recently the USA is also making a licensed variant of the Dornier drone, called the Anduril Roadrunner
Russia has been developing its own flying wing loitering drones for a long while; the Kalashnikov Куб-БЛА, ZALA 421-04M, the Aerocon Inspector-101, 201 and 301 and the ЭНИКС Aileron are all examples of flying wing drones/loitering munitions independently developed in Russia (not including the MiG Skat and S-70).
No.4116
>>4115>The original ZALA Lancet's design is clearly taken from the UVision Wasp loitering munition developed by Israel, however it has equal-sized tail and forward wings compared to the more traditionally formatted Israeli design. The later UVision Hero IV+ design is reminiscent of the current Izdeliye 53 (pic rel), however there are key differences that suggest analogous design development rather than copying, most importantly the current Russian design lacks a tail entirely while the UVision variant still retains its tail.The IAI/UVision designs are older than the Russian lancet, including the canister launched drones with folding wings.
These drones are the result of technology transfers between Israel and Russia around 2009-2016. The lancet is not more of a Russian design than the Galil is an Israeli.
No.4117
>>4116The UVIsion designs are not significantly older than the ZALA designs; they were developed and the first prototypes displayed around the same time in the early-mid 2010s only Israel actually put theirs into production earlier, because industrial bullshit in Russia. With the start of the SVO, Russian industries finally got the support that was needed and mass production began.
As a side note if you think its a copy then you clearly need to re-asses the physics requirements of tail-designs. A tail-less design is significantly different to one with a tail, and an equal sized tail and forward wing-set is also a significant aerodynamic change in terms of lifting force which means designing it from the ground up and only superficially being similar.
No.4118
>>4117>The UVIsion designs are not significantly older than the ZALA designs; they were developed and the first prototypes displayed around the same time in the early-mid 2010s only Israel actually put theirs into production earlier, because industrial bullshit in Russia. With the start of the SVO, Russian industries finally got the support that was needed and mass production began. Why are you so hard on claiming that the Zala lancet isn't derived from the IAI/UVision tech transfers with Russia? Most of their loitering munitions were already finished in 2012, long before the lancet was a thing.
The Hero series design ultimately derives from the idea of adding an engine to the "brilliant anti-tank" submunition, which is decades older.
>As a side note if you think its a copy then you clearly need to re-asses the physics requirements of tail-designs. A tail-less design is significantly different to one with a tail, and an equal sized tail and forward wing-set is also a significant aerodynamic change in terms of lifting force which means designing it from the ground up and only superficially being similar.You just randomly start talking about different drones than the lancet. Lancets have forward wings because the wings have the same size and that shifts balance forward. Gives a smaller size overall and more flight stability. Hero drones have wings further to the rear, because it's design is derived from a guided dive bomb. The evolution of lancet is obviously BAT submunition, IAI intermediate, outsourcing to UVision, tech transfer with Russia. It's not based on any tail-less design.
No.4120
>>4118>It's not based on any tail-less design.You're mixing 2 of my statements. Izdeliye-53 is a tail-less design from the start, while the Hero IV is not. The impact this has on flight characteristics and the necessary adjustments required to keep the I-53 flight capable means the design has to be changed critically, otherwise it's going to flop and crash due to lack of rear stabilizing surfaces.
>The Hero series design ultimately derives from the idea of adding an engine to the "brilliant anti-tank" submunition, which is decades older. True, an idea that doesn't belong to Israel either. I'm not denying UVision's influence, just pointing out that the design has changes that are clearly an independent branch of design from UVision's. The same applies to the Shahed drones, IAI Hawk and Anduril Roadrunner - being based off the same base design, but changed by each country's designers, the similarities thus become superficial, mostly in the over-all look, rather than the details.
>Most of their loitering munitions were already finished in 2012, long before the lancet was a thing.ZALA was founded in 2003 and began prototyping loitering munitions and drones since then. UVision was founded in 2011. While some technology is similar or shared due to Russia's ties to Israel and the original Lancet certainly shares design with the UVision Wasp and its Hero follow-ups, the usage of equal sized front and rear wings as opposed to UVision's more traditional designs changes flight characteristics and requires adjustment and development independently, you can't just slap on a bigger tailfin onto it and expect it to just work.
No.4121
>>4120>>4118As an addendum, the Lancet's design is derived from prior work with the KUB-BLA which ZALA projected with Kalashnikov Concern, and to my knowledge Israel has never issued a statement on the Lancet being a UVision derivative. It is as likely that UVision took designs from the older ZALA and simply released them first as part of military-industrial collaboration between Israel and Russia, as the reverse. Similar things have happened with other countries Russia's military-industrial complex worked with, because while they may develop them, the Russian military may not want them at the time, but others do. Thus the Russian military found the Lancet design necessary now, while the Israeli's put their variant into production earlier because the IDF wanted them.
No.4124
>>4121>As an addendum, the Lancet's design is derived from prior work with the KUB-BLA which ZALA projected with Kalashnikov Concern, and to my knowledge Israel has never issued a statement on the Lancet being a UVision derivative. It is as likely that UVision took designs from the older ZALA and simply released them first as part of military-industrial collaboration between Israel and Russia, as the reverse.This is without doubt the dumbest shit ITT.
No.4125
>>4124 https://www.airwar.ru/enc/bpla/lancet.html >Создан c использованием наработок по ZALA Куб-БЛА, но по другой аэродинамической схеме и существенно отличается по тактико-техническим характеристикам >UVision founded: 2011>ZALA founded: 2003 Do the math or shut up.
No.4127
>Первый полет: 2019
And of course it derives from the Kub with virtually zero similarity and not from the Hero series, which flew a decade earlier already
No.4128
*almost
No.4130
Reposting this FPV trainer game
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2707940/FPV_Kamikaze_Drone/ The entire population of Russia will all become drone operators at this rate, and some Ukrainians too.
An interesting review on improving the game;
"Hey from Ukraine, we and our team try this simulator and love it.
Great beta version, we will use this app to train our new group of pilots.
Add please some additional options in gameplay to choose from:
1. Troops can shoot drones when they see them, accuracy can be variable, let's say 1 from 15 times they will hit your drone in the air when you come close enough.
2. When troops are located near vehicles and see drones flying at them, they try to run away or try to shoot the drone.
3. Add an option to start your flight from tranches from the ground (or a special place), how it is in real life, that we start from our tranche and going to our target.4. Add mission in such a scenario, beginning - you see in the video where target is located, then you have a digital map where you need you to find your target or you already have a target point on a map, you learn map to know where to fly, then you start your fly near your tranche from the ground and when you fly up, your start to hear a voice in the background of your comrades that giving you suggestions where to move to find a target, for exmpl: as move a little bit left, on the midle of tranche, behind the rocks etc (as it is in real life near us sitting our combrand and help us to get our drone to right spot).
5. During some missions add unexpected fields where the enemy radar system will work and ruin your signal.
For any suggestions write me a DM.Happy to help!"
No.4154
>>4153>I wonder if this is a modification of the Strizh and other such Soviet UAVs.uygha just watch the video. They say it after 20 seconds.
No.4160
>>4154Yes I know they say its "allegedly based" on the Beechcraft drone, but the design capabilities are closer to the Tu-300 than the Beechcraft, which is why I wondered if they used some of that technology.
No.4163
>>4160>Yes I know they say its "allegedly based" on the Beechcraft drone, but the design capabilities are closer to the Tu-300 than the Beechcraft, which is why I wondered if they used some of that technology.The Karrar is similar to the Beechcraft and even more so to the Denel Skua than any Soviet design. Iran got Beechcraft drones directly from the US. The only vague similarity with Soviet drones is the high tail mounted engine, as to the (worse) belly mounted configuration.
No.4164
>>4163Fair enough, I was more referring to the multi-functional capabilities of the drone outside of recon, not just the engine.
No.4166
>>4164As a general rule, Soviet drones tend to be technological dead ends because the 90s stalled research and they did not share much technology with anyone else.
No.4167
>>4166The Ту-300 begs to disagree, their research continued into the 2000s
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D1%83-300?useskin=vector No.4194
>>4158I'd say a 12 or even 8 gauge shotgun with buck-shot or heavy bird-shot is the best way if you don't have the know-how for electronic jamming. The wide-spread of the pellets will mean you have a slight area of effect, make shooting the target easier, without having precise aim, which can be helpful in windy conditions
No.4398
>>4397I mean I prefer this to some contract to build it that costs 11 trillion dollars
Did they really have to use a Tiger II though
No.4399
>>4398>Did they really have to use a Tiger II thoughI mean, what other tank would you associate with being rendered immobile? The Panther?
No.4400
>>4158just chuck a rock at it
No.4401
>>4399>what other tank would you associate with being rendered immobile? The Panther? Good one
>>4400 >4400Checked for based simplicity
No.4403
>>4158shotgun if it's close enough
No.4407
>>4405The nitter post is cherrypicked and poorly translated. It omits the first paragraph and claims this is "The Russians'" view when it's the view of a single Russian man on Telegram who isn't even a soldier, just some armchair analyst.
The first paragraph notes that more, and more often there are videos of where Russian soldiers are able to dodge FPV kamikaze drones. And the final paragraph is talking about massing drones on the front in a mass attack all at once and basically destroying all Ukrainian positions and then just marching through, which is inane and stupid, because drones are neither invincible, nor do they replace heavy artillery.
This is just ignorant claims of realities of the front, being parroted by an even more ignorant idiot.
No.4408
>>4407>>4407>more, and more often there are videos of where Russian soldiers are able to dodge FPV kamikaze dronesThere's the one where the Russian, solo and in the open, hits the deck at the last second and the drone explodes a couple of feet away. The drone looked very fast and agile and It looked like he was extremely lucky to avoid obvious physical injury. Are there many more videos of Russians literally dodging small FPVs?
>>4407>the final paragraph is talking about massing drones on the front in a mass attack all at once and basically destroying all Ukrainian positions and then just marching through, which is inane and stupid, because drones are neither invincible, nor do they replace heavy artillery. What he said wasn't that simple. He was wrote about the potential attack point being prepared for a week beforehand, probably with artillery and any kind of other offense along with drones, which means that a narrow attack through the chosen point had a much greater chance of success. He also wrote about the psychological effect on Ukrainians existing in a drone saturated area, unsupplied, for a week. It was a broad tactical analysis that seemed credible. Are you a Russian speaker or got a more detailed interpretation?
No.4409
>>4408>What he said wasn't that simple. He was wrote about the potential attack point being prepared for a week beforehand, probably with artillery and any kind of other offense along with drones, which means that a narrow attack through the chosen point had a much greater chance of success. He also wrote about the psychological effect on Ukrainians existing in a drone saturated area, unsupplied, for a week. It was a broad tactical analysis that seemed credible. Are you a Russian speaker or got a more detailed interpretation?This has already been tried over and over with very mild success. It doesn't work because if you shoot the enemy trenches to rubble, your assault unit will lack good cover and get mauled there by enemy drones.
No.4433
New in drone-drone warfare recently
The MARSS company has created a drone hunter-killer that targets enemy drones specifically.
https://topwar.ru/235823-na-vsemirnoj-oboronnoj-vystavke-v-saudovskoj-aravii-predstavlen-perehvatchik-bpla.html https://marss.com/products/interceptor-mr/ Ukrainian terrestrial drones are being used to retrieve any crashed Russian or Ukrainian drones without leaving the relative safety of their foxholes.
https://topwar.ru/235828-opublikovany-kadry-na-kotoryh-nazemnyj-bespilotnik-vsu-utaschil-upavshij-rossijskij-bpla-orlan.html No.4434
Ukraine has a new jet engine drone that Russia recently shot down.
https://topwar.ru/235851-rossijskaja-pvo-sbila-ranee-ne-vstrechavshijsja-nashim-voennym-reaktivnyj-bpla-vsu.html While I don't know for sure, it's probably a Swiss drone if we go off the declaration of Drone company, Destinus.
The founder of Destinus is former Russian businessman Mikhail Kokorich, who previously headed the famous Russian space startup Dauria Aerospace, and recently renounced Russian citizenship. In 2014, Kokorich moved to the United States. In 2021, Kokorich moved from the United States right before being charged with fraud.
Since 2023, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been secretly receiving hundreds of drones every month from the Swiss company Destinus, the company’s founder said in an interview in an interview with Challenges news.
>"We are one of the leading drone manufacturers in Europe, and Ukraine is our main client. We are planning to build a factory there,"The owner of the company also clarified what is being supplied to the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In particular, with “Lord” drones , the range of which is from 750 to 2000 km. In addition, Destinus will soon send “Ruta” (a rocket-propelled aircraft with a range of 300 km) and “Hornet” (a very fast mini-drone weighing a couple of kilograms, capable of intercepting enemy drones and moving at a speed of 300 km/h).
No.4649
>>4410>Коптер атакует. Что из этого спасет мою жизнь? РЭБ, антидроновое ружье, Калаш, бегство.>Крупнокалиберный Переполохhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrWo79_-ZoQ In case the Embed dies
>>4435 >>4403This, unironically.
The Russian military is ordering thousands of military shotguns for this purpose. The only problem is range and a barrel choke can help with that.
https://topwar.ru/238297-50-000-drobovikov-v-god-dlja-rossijskoj-armii-ili-pochemu-problemu-fpv-dronov-kamikadze-neobhodimo-reshat-uzhe-sejchas.html Hell they're even proposing mounting them on other drones as well:
https://southfront.press/russia-develops-shotgun-drone-to-combat-drone-attacks/I remember watching how accurately and easily Tom Knapps used a 12 Gauge to blow apart flying plates, and it's not that hard to do the same to a drone.
No.4675
>>4123 >>3936The Naval thread
>>3080 has a lot of posts on the topic of marine attack drones and defending against them such as post
>>4631 And I just realized I've posted little to that effect here, I'll have to amend that later.
No.4680
>>4677 Related
>Наземный дрон СЭМ-350 армии России поступил на испытания The Russian army received the SEM-350 ground drone for testing
No.4729
>Russia has created remote mine deploying robot https://topwar.ru/239050-teper-bespilotniki-zanjalis-minirovaniem-v-rossii-predstavlena-nazemnaja-platforma-ustanovki-zagrazhdenij.html I fear that with the development of drones going so far, that the US military may delude itself into believing that it could wage a large-scale conventional war with robotic troops and risk a nuclear one and still win, because it has robots to continue fighting in nuke-scorched Europe
No.4784
https://archive.md/szmdh<How American Drones Failed to Turn the Tide in Ukraine>Drones from American startups have been deemed glitchy and expensive, prompting Ukraine to turn to alternatives from China
>Mykola Bielieskov, a senior analyst at Ukraine’s Come Back Alive, a charity that has supplied more than 30,000 drones to the military.>Come Back Alive Charity<Charity<Buying drones for the militarySpooks really call weapons dealing "charities". I can't put into words how funny this is to me. They have managed to surpass the Lethal Aid Meme
Also even with all this Deadly Aid, the Ukrainians themselves are not confident in their ability to create mass strikes using drones.
https://topwar.ru/239990-dorogo-i-stolko-dronov-net-ukrainskij-zhurnalist-ne-verit-v-vozmozhnost-massovyh-atak-bpla-vsu-po-territorii-rossii.html No.4786
>>4649The Vepr-12 shotguns are being given to sapper units on the front. 10 shot magazine with a powerful shell.
Карабин Вепрь-12 Молот получили войска России, обзор
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLkQf_DVc0 No.4787
>>4786Im surprised there doesnt exist some hunter drones already, historically aircraft usage in war went -> scouting / artillery spotting -> dispersed anti scouting over your lines to deny air scouting -> air wings to take over air control in the area of operation -> CAS for when you have air control.
With drones its seemingly just scouting and cas with suicide drones
also wouldnt it theoretically be pretty easy to create some automatic static anti drone defense with a camera linked to an auto shotgun ?
No.4788
>>4787 There do exist hunter drones, they're just not widely used at the moment. Russian FPV drones have been ramming larger Ukrainian ones and blowing them out of the sky.
>wouldnt it theoretically be pretty easy to create some automatic static anti drone defense with a camera linked to an auto shotgunThat would be a CIWS or Close In Weapon System similar to the Phalanx… problem is that you have to use drones with installed Friend-Foe indicators to prevent your own drones from being targeted by an automatic system like that.
No.4792
>>4677>>4680 The drones used at Berdych are production combat models named Courier.
> The ground drone is called NRTC "Courier", this project is being implemented with the support of military commander Chengis Dambiev and Boris Rozhin. Technical information on the screen. The “Courier” robot is multifunctional; it can be equipped with an AGS-17 “Plamya” grenade launcher, a “Kord” machine gun, RPG-7 grenade launchers, ATGMs, RPO “Shmel-M” and other weapons. The robot can use an unknown model of electronic warfare power up to 560 W. In addition, the robot installs TM-62 and TM-83 anti-tank mines, working as a mine layer. The robot has a camera mounted on a rod and has armor plates, but their thickness is unknown. The robot control range is up to 10 km, autonomy is up to 72 hours. The robot weighs 250 kg, is equipped with an asynchronous electric motor with a power of 6 kW and can reach speeds of up to 35 km/h.>Военный робот Курьер начал применяться Россией No.4814
Although there have been incidents of FPV drones hitting helicopters in Ukraine since the beginning of the war, they have shown surprising effectiveness in avoiding drones in general, both in Ukraine and elsewhere. The US Navy however has been using helicopters to attack Houthi attack drones fairly successfully. Part of the reason helicopters have been good at avoiding small suicide drones, despite operating in the same combat air-space dimensions, is because helicopters today are very fast, even when cruising and the immense backwash caused by their rotors can send a drone tumbling out of the sky. Vid related is a Ukrainian FPV drone that failed to hit a Ka-52 for that reason.
https://topwar.ru/240031-mne-sverhu-vidno-vse.html Video source:
https://t.me/robert_magyar/618 No.4815
Russia captured a US drone supplied to Ukraine
>Российские военнослужащие провели осмотр посаженного украинского БПЛА RQ-20 Puma американского производства. БПЛА RQ-20 Puma разработан компанией AeroVironment на основе БПЛА FQM-151 «Пойнтер» в 2007 году. БПЛА RQ-20 запускается с руки и предназначен для патрулирования, разведки и корректировки огневой поддержки. Двухосная, гиростабилизированная многосенсорная система дрона объединяет в себе обычную и тепловизионную камеры. Каждая из них имеет 6-кратное увеличение. Система позволяет обнаруживать противника днём и ночью. Дрон имеет влагозащищенный корпус и может быть оборудован солнечными панелями, с ними дрон может летать до 9 часов, без них до 3,5 часов. Интересно сделана конструкция дрона, от удара о землю он разваливается на части в строго определённых местах, благодаря этому его легко собрать и ремонтировать в полевых условиях. При размахе крыльев в 2,8 метра и длине 1,4 метра, максимальная взлетная масса БПЛА не превышает 5,9 кг. БПЛА RQ-20 развивает скорость до 83 км/ч при радиусе действия до 15 километров, на высоте до 15 метров. Примерная стоимость БПЛА RQ-20 Puma 250 тысяч долларов или 23 миллиона рублей. БПЛА отправят на изучения специалистами.
>Russian military personnel inspected the landed Ukrainian UAV RQ-20 Puma of American production. The RQ-20 Puma UAV was developed by AeroVironment based on the FQM-151 Pointer UAV in 2007. The RQ-20 UAV is hand-launched and is designed for patrol, reconnaissance and fire support adjustments. The drone's bi-axis, gyro-stabilized multi-sensor system combines conventional and thermal imaging cameras. Each of them has 6x magnification. The system allows you to detect the enemy day and night. The drone has a waterproof body and can be equipped with solar panels; with them, the drone can fly for up to 9 hours, without them for up to 3.5 hours. The design of the drone is interesting; when it hits the ground, it falls apart in strictly defined places, making it easy to assemble and repair in the field. With a wingspan of 2.8 meters and a length of 1.4 meters, the maximum take-off weight of the UAV does not exceed 5.9 kg. The RQ-20 UAV reaches speeds of up to 83 km/h with a range of up to 15 kilometers, at an altitude of up to 15 meters. The approximate cost of the RQ-20 Puma UAV is 250 thousand dollars or 23 million rubles. The UAV will be sent for examination by specialists.
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>>4678>>4132>The MQ-25 may be used for direct combat purposes I should have predicted this.
https://topwar.ru/240274-bpla-mq-25a-mozhet-stat-boevym.html No.4864
Recently the US Army has accepted the Leonidas Microwave system as an experimental, Microwave based anti-drone weapon.
https://topwar.ru/240642-mikrovolnovoe-oruzhie-chetyre-sistemy-leonidas-uzhe-peredany-vs-ssha-razvertyvanie-na-korabljah-vms-ssha-s-2026-goda.html However there's already a way found around it - a layer of copper around the drone blocks the directed electro-magnetic pulse from disrupting the drone by 100 times.
There's an interesting video by Mark Rober that he just released that covers this and other anti-drone measures as well as stuff he and his friends came up with. His ad for a robot-constructor product he made is also actually informative as to the current states of autonomous systems and how EASY it would be to make autonomous turrets a la Aliens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrGENEXocJU >Vortex Cannon vs Drone No.4872
>>4864A new super-low drone detecting RADAR was released in Russia, we'll see how effective it'll be. Paired with specialized anti-drone MANPADS could make this a viable defense, comparable to current infantry anti-air against helicopters and CAS attack aircraft.
https://topwar.ru/241337-rossijskij-holding-rosjelektronika-nachal-postavki-portativnoj-rls-dlja-obnaruzhenija-dronov-na-sverhmalyh-vysotah.html https://topwar.ru/241123-specializirovannye-zrk-i-zur-dlja-borby-s-bpla.html>>4814 To add on, while this is true, it's not a permanent measure, as drones are developing rapidly, so Helicopters will probably need to adapt with specialized anti-drone weapons or attack measures, as well as defenses.
https://topwar.ru/240973-vertolety-protiv-ukrainskih-bezjekipazhnyh-katerov-i-bplakamikadze-vremennoe-reshenie-s-vysokimi-riskami.html No.4887
>>4867>>4838An analysis of the X-62A and how it's still far from true AI vs Human combat (simulation). The AI is essentially using existing commands for the basis of its responses and actions, which means its reactive and not creative.
https://topwar.ru/241315-protiv-russkih-poka-rano.html Unique IPs: 25